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payrollpete · 04-22-2002, 08:30 PM

aren't you suppose to send c&d's by registered postal?

The Truth · 04-22-2002, 08:42 PM

Check out the APIC board ...

Here

I don't even know why they put this up. It's nothing but people talking shit about Steve with no replies.

UnseenWorld · 04-22-2002, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

How dare you base your decision on who to do business with because of their looks. If that is how everybody felt then you would never get any sales.

Then, obviously they don't feel that way about me, do they? If the models didn't feel that way about you, maybe you'd have about 140 girls up on your site, like me. (Ouch!)

Lightning · 04-22-2002, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by payrollpete
aren't you suppose to send c&d's by registered postal?

Good point. I don't think a damm email constitutes any legal means of notification. Nobody said you have to open your mail??...

SleazyDream · 04-22-2002, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Then, obviously they don't feel that way about me, do they? If the models didn't feel that way about you, maybe you'd have about 140 girls up on your site, like me. (Ouch!)

ArronM has hundreds and HUNDERDS of girls, he only puts the trash on his site (trash that looks fuckin HOT too). he's mostly into custom work and if you're lucky enough to have him show you some you better bring towel for the drool.....

AaronM · 04-22-2002, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Then, obviously they don't feel that way about me, do they? If the models didn't feel that way about you, maybe you'd have about 140 girls up on your site, like me. (Ouch!)

Or, like you, I could start shooting everything that walks, crawls, and slithers through the door.

DAMN!

Martin · 04-22-2002, 08:51 PM

Okay who farted?

Mike D · 04-22-2002, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Then, obviously they don't feel that way about me, do they? If the models didn't feel that way about you, maybe you'd have about 140 girls up on your site, like me. (Ouch!)

I think that`s because he chooses quality over quantity,unlike you (ouch!)

Mike.............

NetRodent · 04-22-2002, 09:03 PM

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Mr. Callahan is the director of APIC-Worldwide, NOT an attorney

I've heard a rumor that Steve Easton is no longer with APIC. The email that Lensman posted seems to have been written by a Mr. Callahan. I always assumed that APIC=Easton, this does not seem to be the case anymore. Who exactly is APIC?

Ted · 04-22-2002, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent

Who exactly is APIC?

A (small)
Penis
In
Charge

Kimmykim · 04-22-2002, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
They're part of my secret plot.

This ain't another one of them 3l33t h4x0r things is it?

Ludedude · 04-22-2002, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent

I've heard a rumor that Steve Easton is no longer with APIC. The email that Lensman posted seems to have been written by a Mr. Callahan. I always assumed that APIC=Easton, this does not seem to be the case anymore. Who exactly is APIC?

Also interesting in that email is the fact that Steve Easton is listed as one of the copyright holders being violated. I knew he used to be a contene provider but that was a long time ago.

They are, however, a bunch of morons to try to strongarm Lens.

Dawgy · 04-22-2002, 09:08 PM

apic nearly put me out of business... sending me shit and getting lawyers involved about shit they couldnt even prove. in the end they just went away, no apology or reimbursement for anything.

their intentions may be good, but their methods and lack of respect for anyone but themselves pisses me off.

TheFLY · 04-22-2002, 09:24 PM

Who's still using Suze Randall pics? Jesus why do all her models wear those fucking ugly pastel pumps? Can't she afford more than K-Mart shoes for her models?

Lensman · 04-22-2002, 09:25 PM

Lack of respect? Ya think?

Look at this email he sent me:

Quote:

Either way, your Webmaster has no rights.

You aren't doing me any favors, I'm not the one who will be without a job.
If it wasn't for APIC. none of you wannabe photographers would have jobs. You couldn't make it in the magazines, the Web was 100% theft in 96, and now the content business supports the entire industry including trade shows etc.

APIC made that happen.

AaronM · 04-22-2002, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
Who's still using Suze Randall pics? Jesus why do all her models wear those fucking ugly pastel pumps? Can't she afford more than K-Mart shoes for her models?

I think you are confusing Suze with another photographer who shall remain unmentioned and unseen.

quiet · 04-22-2002, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
Lack of respect? Ya think?

Look at this email he sent me:

i'll say it again, what a fucking joke.

hyper · 04-22-2002, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
Lack of respect? Ya think?

Look at this email he sent me:

Lensman sue him for defamation of character

he called you a wannabe photographer

Mr.Fiction · 04-22-2002, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
Lack of respect? Ya think?

Look at this email he sent me:

Quote:

Either way, your Webmaster has no rights.

You aren't doing me any favors, I'm not the one who will be without a job.
If it wasn't for APIC. none of you wannabe photographers would have jobs. You couldn't make it in the magazines, the Web was 100% theft in 96, and now the content business supports the entire industry including trade shows etc.

APIC made that happen.

First they told us Al Gore invented the Internet, now we find out it was really APIC?

Sly_RJ · 04-22-2002, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by askmomma

Good point. I don't think a damm email constitutes any legal means of notification. Nobody said you have to open your mail??...

You can choose to not open your mail, but it wouldn't matter. Once the letter is either sent or received (don't remember which), it's considered received and everything inside it is binding.

hyper · 04-22-2002, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

You can choose to not open your mail, but it wouldn't matter. Once the letter is either sent or received (don't remember which), it's considered received and everything inside it is binding.

since when is an email a binding document?
it must be sent certified or registered mail

Wizzo · 04-22-2002, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah

I bet they don't care if Lensman is straight-up or not. They are likely more pissed off that Lensman won't just do what they say and terminate everyone they finger. Shoot First, Question later.

This might be more to the point...

AaronM · 04-22-2002, 09:36 PM

Don't let the fucker get you down. They are just jealous that you have what they want.

That fucker is sitting behind a desk while you are planning your next fun night out.

TheFLY · 04-22-2002, 09:37 PM

APIC wouldn't know a Barnett Newman from track lines in their underwear.

Jesus now they are photography critics too? Haha...

ToyBoys · 04-22-2002, 09:38 PM

lol

funny stuff

I side with let the lawyers deal with it, or laucn another program lens and then buy them..

just thought that I would comment

hyper · 04-22-2002, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

CAPTION OF THE WEEK

Is that a Beer Bottle in your hand? or are you just happy to see me?

wired1 · 04-22-2002, 09:39 PM

Anyone have any pictures of Steve Easton or this Mr. Callahan?

I need to practice some more morphing of full frontal bukakke shots in photoshop, besides I need to post another gallery on my freehost account...

payrollpete · 04-22-2002, 10:01 PM

pornopete

it's not worth sueing back for

it's easier to delete the e-mails, or ignore, cost effective too

Kimmykim · 04-22-2002, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

I think you are confusing Suze with another photographer who shall remain unmentioned and unseen.

Oh, my.

vidsweb · 04-22-2002, 10:16 PM

APIC has absolutely no professional conduct.

Is this how they handle copyright violations? By sending out threatening emails?

It sounds like APIC is run by a bunch of kids that are fooling around on a computer in their parents basement.

UnseenWorld · 04-22-2002, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mike
I think that`s because he chooses quality over quantity,unlike you (ouch!)

Mike.............

That was kind. I'll be sure to pass that along to them.

UnseenWorld · 04-22-2002, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

I think you are confusing Suze with another photographer who shall remain unmentioned and unseen.

And another, is better seen and not heard.

AaronM · 04-22-2002, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

That was kind. I'll be sure to pass that along to them.

You may want to print the page out. At your age the memory starts to slip a bit.

AaronM · 04-22-2002, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

And another, is better seen and not heard.

LMAO.

Touché

Snake Doctor · 04-22-2002, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

I think you are confusing Suze with another photographer who shall remain unmentioned and unseen.

Unseen????
Freudian slip?..........or not?

wizardmerlin · 04-22-2002, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Lightning
Lensman, I'am pretty tight with everyone at APIC, if you need a hand getting in touch with them or anything else, give me a call, I'll bail you out... There really not so bad if you know them.

Not so bad if you know them? Hell people can only be nice if you know them? Whats up with that?

TheFLY · 04-22-2002, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

I think you are confusing Suze with another photographer who shall remain unmentioned and unseen.

I personally think her pics are contrived -- but she has/had a monopoly w/ most of the world famous celebrity models... that's why she has so much problem w/ theft. Can you blame guys for wanting to trade pics of their favorite supermodels? I don't condone theft -- but it's a reality that pop culture IS the internet -- and no APIC lawyer can do shit about it.

Believe it or not, Boneprone started his site as a HOBBY... and there still are a lot of enthusiast webmasters out there... If you really get to know some of the guys in this biz -- you find out that many of them just like to look at hot babes -- and the money is just gravy.

Forkbeard · 04-23-2002, 12:40 AM

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Lens should tell APIC "I'll withhold payment until this is settled."

Not a good idea.

Lensman presumably has contractual obligations in regard to those payments, although I haven't read his particular set of "we don't have to pay you if you cheat" boilerplate.

It is true, I think, that complying with a properly formed DMCA notice can protect one against contractual damages that result from such compliance. It is also true that there is some dispute about the degree of specificity that must be found in a properly formed DCMA notice.

However, I don't think there can be any dispute that the vague piece of crap email Lensman posted here was NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, specific enough to be a properly formed DCMA notice. (Even assuming that Lensman's situation falls within the scope of the DCMA -- I have insufficient data to know.)

There is a very specific subspecies of lawyer that THRIVES on making insupportable legal threats because it is, as a class, simply too lazy to make supportable ones, and too arrogant to feel the need. Such lawyers are a blight upon the profession. I spit on them. Hock. Ptooie.

Nat · 04-23-2002, 12:52 AM

It's not really like APIC gets any respect what so ever with there bad spelled slanderous letters.. :)

money4all · 04-23-2002, 01:14 AM

Might be that APIC in love with your model but don't know how to contact her so they push you with threat in order to reveal her address

Tipsy · 04-23-2002, 01:31 AM

You've got to wonder at the mentality and IQ of the people running APIC. The service IS needed on the Internet but these people just haven't a clue. As was mentioned above they can rarely even write an e-mail without typos and bad grammar in nearly every sentence. They're quite frankly a joke. Maybe somebody with a little more sense and legal savvy will set up a decent service and put these clowns out of business. There's certainly an opening there.

mule · 04-23-2002, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy
As was mentioned above they can rarely even write an e-mail without typos and bad grammar in nearly every sentence.

Yep, I remember following the whole Absolut saga last year, and at first I thought everyone had gotten their knickers in a knot over a prank, I couldn't believe that email was from a bona fide company. I thought that it was some kid impersonating APIC.

Dualcpu · 04-23-2002, 02:08 AM

This is ridiculous.

APIC sounds like a desperate organisation.
They show a lack of respect and professionalism and I would not even have answered their emails.

SNOW · 04-23-2002, 03:57 AM

Fuck yeah Aaron you wen't to bat man.. I think this is a good oppurtunity for someone to start a new business and overthrow Apic.. Joe I would be furious man.. I hope this works out.. no one needs the extra pressure.. I remember talking to jim about Apic and he knows them Quite well being hes a big free host.. Talk to jim.

Snow

candidpublishinginc · 04-23-2002, 07:05 AM

I had to deal with APIC myself due to a Candid Clicks webmaster who was using stolen content.

Just like Lens I asked them the same questions, and of course Steve being the rude unprofessional person that he was would say things like

"Stop wasting my time, I have many other important emails to send out...it's pretty obvious that you're new to the business since you are unwilling to cooperate"

I'm neither new to the business, nor was I unwilling to cooperate. I was simply asking for basic information. Steve was also very unhappy when I told him that I was going to contact the webmaster first, asking for a license, before canning his account.

Steve is the biggest dope I've had to deal with. He goes on rambling how I'm wasting his time, yet he was the one to contact me first wasting my valuable time with his rude emails.

I wish I still had the email conversions handy, would have been pretty funny to post here.

But yeah I have agree with the rest of you, Steve is a unprofessional clown who I'd be embarrassed to represent for me if I were a content provider.

Gramma · 04-23-2002, 07:11 AM

Slander = spoken bullshit
Libel = written bullshit

I have had a couple of dealings with APIC - once to defend myself, and another to defend myself. Anytime I talked to someone there, I ended up feeling violated and dirty.

ServerGenius · 04-23-2002, 07:13 AM

Lens....are you going for the DvD Player here...?

Please post Steve Easton pics...so we all know at who to laugh
at during the coming shows...!!!

DynaMite

DTK · 04-23-2002, 07:33 AM

Posted some months ago by Steve Easton on the APIC message board: "The majority of fools don't realize that if it wasn't for APIC there would be no Adult Web"

Bow to the power!!!!!

Trax · 04-23-2002, 07:45 AM

we should DoS apic :D

Tipsy · 04-23-2002, 07:46 AM

Hmmm....wonder if Lens sends himself DVD players....

04-22-2002, 08:42 PM	#52
The Truth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 920	Check out the APIC board ... Here I don't even know why they put this up. It's nothing but people talking shit about Steve with no replies. __________________

04-22-2002, 08:51 PM	#57
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Okay who farted? __________________

04-22-2002, 09:08 PM	#63
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	apic nearly put me out of business... sending me shit and getting lawyers involved about shit they couldnt even prove. in the end they just went away, no apology or reimbursement for anything. their intentions may be good, but their methods and lack of respect for anyone but themselves pisses me off. __________________ the revolution is coming.

04-22-2002, 09:38 PM	#75
ToyBoys Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 237	lol funny stuff I side with let the lawyers deal with it, or laucn another program lens and then buy them.. just thought that I would comment __________________

04-23-2002, 01:14 AM	#90
money4all Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: trulymoney.com Posts: 125	Might be that APIC in love with your model but don't know how to contact her so they push you with threat in order to reveal her address __________________ Truly Money SATELLITE TV 3 months FREE, cheaper than cable, 4 receivers, up to 170 ch, no equipment to buy, free installation!

04-22-2002, 08:30 PM	#51
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	aren't you suppose to send c&d's by registered postal?

04-22-2002, 09:24 PM	#64
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Who's still using Suze Randall pics? Jesus why do all her models wear those fucking ugly pastel pumps? Can't she afford more than K-Mart shoes for her models?

04-22-2002, 09:36 PM	#73
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Don't let the fucker get you down. They are just jealous that you have what they want. That fucker is sitting behind a desk while you are planning your next fun night out.

04-22-2002, 09:37 PM	#74
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	APIC wouldn't know a Barnett Newman from track lines in their underwear. Jesus now they are photography critics too? Haha...

04-22-2002, 09:39 PM	#77
wired1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Posts: 279	Anyone have any pictures of Steve Easton or this Mr. Callahan? I need to practice some more morphing of full frontal bukakke shots in photoshop, besides I need to post another gallery on my freehost account...

04-22-2002, 10:01 PM	#78
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	pornopete it's not worth sueing back for it's easier to delete the e-mails, or ignore, cost effective too

04-22-2002, 10:16 PM	#80
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	APIC has absolutely no professional conduct. Is this how they handle copyright violations? By sending out threatening emails? It sounds like APIC is run by a bunch of kids that are fooling around on a computer in their parents basement.

04-23-2002, 12:52 AM	#89
Nat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 553	It's not really like APIC gets any respect what so ever with there bad spelled slanderous letters.. :)

04-23-2002, 01:31 AM	#91
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	You've got to wonder at the mentality and IQ of the people running APIC. The service IS needed on the Internet but these people just haven't a clue. As was mentioned above they can rarely even write an e-mail without typos and bad grammar in nearly every sentence. They're quite frankly a joke. Maybe somebody with a little more sense and legal savvy will set up a decent service and put these clowns out of business. There's certainly an opening there. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

04-23-2002, 02:08 AM	#93
Dualcpu Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 488	This is ridiculous. APIC sounds like a desperate organisation. They show a lack of respect and professionalism and I would not even have answered their emails.

04-23-2002, 03:57 AM	#94
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Fuck yeah Aaron you wen't to bat man.. I think this is a good oppurtunity for someone to start a new business and overthrow Apic.. Joe I would be furious man.. I hope this works out.. no one needs the extra pressure.. I remember talking to jim about Apic and he knows them Quite well being hes a big free host.. Talk to jim. Snow

04-23-2002, 07:05 AM	#95
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	I had to deal with APIC myself due to a Candid Clicks webmaster who was using stolen content. Just like Lens I asked them the same questions, and of course Steve being the rude unprofessional person that he was would say things like "Stop wasting my time, I have many other important emails to send out...it's pretty obvious that you're new to the business since you are unwilling to cooperate" I'm neither new to the business, nor was I unwilling to cooperate. I was simply asking for basic information. Steve was also very unhappy when I told him that I was going to contact the webmaster first, asking for a license, before canning his account. Steve is the biggest dope I've had to deal with. He goes on rambling how I'm wasting his time, yet he was the one to contact me first wasting my valuable time with his rude emails. I wish I still had the email conversions handy, would have been pretty funny to post here. But yeah I have agree with the rest of you, Steve is a unprofessional clown who I'd be embarrassed to represent for me if I were a content provider. __________________ Candid Clicks Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic! NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

04-23-2002, 07:11 AM	#96
Gramma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 402	Slander = spoken bullshit Libel = written bullshit I have had a couple of dealings with APIC - once to defend myself, and another to defend myself. Anytime I talked to someone there, I ended up feeling violated and dirty. __________________ gramma at ix.netcom.com

04-23-2002, 07:13 AM	#97
ServerGenius Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 9,377	Lens....are you going for the DvD Player here...? Please post Steve Easton pics...so we all know at who to laugh at during the coming shows...!!! DynaMite __________________ \| http://www.sinnerscash.com/ \| ICQ: 370820 \| Skype: SinnersCash \| AdultWhosWho \|

04-23-2002, 07:33 AM	#98
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Posted some months ago by Steve Easton on the APIC message board: "The majority of fools don't realize that if it wasn't for APIC there would be no Adult Web" Bow to the power!!!!!

04-23-2002, 07:45 AM	#99
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	we should DoS apic :D

04-23-2002, 07:46 AM	#100
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Hmmm....wonder if Lens sends himself DVD players.... __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.