Do you guys give a shit about your surfers on dialup connections? - GoFuckYourself.com

clickhappy · 02-20-2006, 09:09 PM

Do you try to design your pages lightly for users on slow connections, or do you figure those people wont buy memberships anyway because theyre too cheap, so fuck em?

Verbal · 02-20-2006, 09:14 PM

not really ... but thats probably a mistake. I figure if they are too cheap to get broadband, they're probably too cheap to pay for porn.

GatorB · 02-20-2006, 09:16 PM

I read an article that at the end of 2005 37% of American households that were online still used dial-up. In my area it's very rural and outside of the town where I live people out in the county either have to choose from dial-up or satelite which at $50 a month for 500 kbps up to $80 for a mere 1.5 Mbps, not to mention severe downloading caps and $300-$600 instalation fees, most use dial-up.

Jace · 02-20-2006, 09:17 PM

most people on dial up are aware that they will have long wait times for sites to load

Niklas · 02-20-2006, 09:20 PM

I usually design my sites to be super fast on broadband.. that means they will load fairly fast on dial up as well.

V_RocKs · 02-20-2006, 10:10 PM

Let me break it down for you... And watch - someone like SleazyDream will come along and go, "Yeah, all you fuckers don't give a shit about the modem users! That way I can make even mooooore money!"

Here it goes....

On AVERAGE every website gets this many sign ups from this many countries:

US - 85% - 90%
UK - 4% - 5%
CA - 2% - 3%
FR - 2% - 3%

EVERYBODY ELSE = Basically nothing... about 5% total... and that is EVERYBODY ELSE! Every other country in the world = 5%... So those of you who use adwords, only target US/CA/UK everyone else is just clicking and not buying and it also HUGELY cuts down on your click fraud since most proxies used for click fraud are from outside the US! In other words, click fraudsters don't even see your ad to click it.

The AVERAGE sponsor sees traffic about like this:

50% US
14% Couldn't tell
4% German
3% Canada
And once again not a whole lot of everyone else...

"So what does this mean? I look at my stats on my TGP and it shows that I get 14% German traffic! Right and of those, only 28% actually click through to the sponsor and of those only less than 1% actually buy... Now multiply this by Japan, Korea, China and all of the other countries that make up 40% of your TGP traffic. They are making less than 5% of your sales and the countries that actually buy are listed above with the addition of Mexico 1%, Japan 1%, Iceland .5%, Germany .5%, Australia .5%...

The top INTERNET ACCESS (not necessarily broadband) counties are the US, China, Japan, Germany, South Korea, United Kingdom, France, Italy, India, Canada, Brazil, Taiwan, Mexico, Spain, Australia. (in that order * I left out the European Union because I don't even know what the fuck that is! And isn't Spain and France part of it?)...

Which ones buy porn? US 85% - UK 5% - CA 2.5% - FR 2.5%...

What does this mean? It means the US/UK/CA/FR have MONEY! It also means that the US/UK/CA/FR have methods to pay for porn.

Now even though China is vastly becoming an internet powerhouse they are also MUCH larger than the US... So you have a lot of people with NO MONEY and even if they had it, I doubt you see many transactions outside of Hong Kong... So people who have money BUY PORN... People with no money DO NOT BUY PORN...

Because the dollar is stronger than CA$/AU$ you don't see them buying to much porn.. But the UK$ is worth more than the US$ so they do.

Now sponsors can search their databases and whois a few IP's at random... guess what, they are for broadband providers... BUt, but, but, AOL! Right, AOL has users who are paying a premium for their service. They didn't go budget. So they will stick around and pay for porn no matter how slow it loads.

The real issue should be, am I targeting my traffic correctly? You can create a site with smaller thumbs or whatever for dialup users or with different sponsors with different payment options for different countries. But it doesn't matter either way... Broadband users BUY porn because they HAVE MONEY. They have 20" screens and faster CPU's... I don't know anyone with dialup that has a screen bigger than 17 inches. I know a shitload of broadband users who think 17" is a joke and 19" is minimal...

Sure modem users DO pay for porn. If they didn't, access scripts wouldn't have special routines written into them just for AOL users. But look at the global statistics for who pays for porn. 85% American! Why? Because we have MONEY... Who has money in America? Broadband subscribers do!

There is no reason why the stats for who is paying broadband vs. dialup would be any different than who is paying US vs. the rest of the world! It is all about MONEY!

I run a TGP with a text version for modem users and a thumbs version for everyone else... Guess which one gets 95% of the traffic? The thumbs version... why? Because even modem users will wait for a picture to load if there is a silky red thong wrapped up inside a tanned globie ass!

02-20-2006, 09:09 PM	#1
clickhappy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,027	Do you guys give a shit about your surfers on dialup connections? Do you try to design your pages lightly for users on slow connections, or do you figure those people wont buy memberships anyway because theyre too cheap, so fuck em?

02-20-2006, 09:20 PM	#5
Niklas Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 352	I usually design my sites to be super fast on broadband.. that means they will load fairly fast on dial up as well. __________________ Need big boob traffic? Contact me I make money with JuggCash

02-20-2006, 09:14 PM	#2
Verbal Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,420	not really ... but thats probably a mistake. I figure if they are too cheap to get broadband, they're probably too cheap to pay for porn.

02-20-2006, 09:16 PM	#3
GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	I read an article that at the end of 2005 37% of American households that were online still used dial-up. In my area it's very rural and outside of the town where I live people out in the county either have to choose from dial-up or satelite which at $50 a month for 500 kbps up to $80 for a mere 1.5 Mbps, not to mention severe downloading caps and $300-$600 instalation fees, most use dial-up.

02-20-2006, 09:17 PM	#4
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	most people on dial up are aware that they will have long wait times for sites to load

02-20-2006, 10:10 PM	#6
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Let me break it down for you... And watch - someone like SleazyDream will come along and go, "Yeah, all you fuckers don't give a shit about the modem users! That way I can make even mooooore money!" Here it goes.... On AVERAGE every website gets this many sign ups from this many countries: US - 85% - 90% UK - 4% - 5% CA - 2% - 3% FR - 2% - 3% EVERYBODY ELSE = Basically nothing... about 5% total... and that is EVERYBODY ELSE! Every other country in the world = 5%... So those of you who use adwords, only target US/CA/UK everyone else is just clicking and not buying and it also HUGELY cuts down on your click fraud since most proxies used for click fraud are from outside the US! In other words, click fraudsters don't even see your ad to click it. The AVERAGE sponsor sees traffic about like this: 50% US 14% Couldn't tell 4% German 3% Canada And once again not a whole lot of everyone else... "So what does this mean? I look at my stats on my TGP and it shows that I get 14% German traffic! Right and of those, only 28% actually click through to the sponsor and of those only less than 1% actually buy... Now multiply this by Japan, Korea, China and all of the other countries that make up 40% of your TGP traffic. They are making less than 5% of your sales and the countries that actually buy are listed above with the addition of Mexico 1%, Japan 1%, Iceland .5%, Germany .5%, Australia .5%... The top INTERNET ACCESS (not necessarily broadband) counties are the US, China, Japan, Germany, South Korea, United Kingdom, France, Italy, India, Canada, Brazil, Taiwan, Mexico, Spain, Australia. (in that order * I left out the European Union because I don't even know what the fuck that is! And isn't Spain and France part of it?)... Which ones buy porn? US 85% - UK 5% - CA 2.5% - FR 2.5%... What does this mean? It means the US/UK/CA/FR have MONEY! It also means that the US/UK/CA/FR have methods to pay for porn. Now even though China is vastly becoming an internet powerhouse they are also MUCH larger than the US... So you have a lot of people with NO MONEY and even if they had it, I doubt you see many transactions outside of Hong Kong... So people who have money BUY PORN... People with no money DO NOT BUY PORN... Because the dollar is stronger than CA$/AU$ you don't see them buying to much porn.. But the UK$ is worth more than the US$ so they do. Now sponsors can search their databases and whois a few IP's at random... guess what, they are for broadband providers... BUt, but, but, AOL! Right, AOL has users who are paying a premium for their service. They didn't go budget. So they will stick around and pay for porn no matter how slow it loads. The real issue should be, am I targeting my traffic correctly? You can create a site with smaller thumbs or whatever for dialup users or with different sponsors with different payment options for different countries. But it doesn't matter either way... Broadband users BUY porn because they HAVE MONEY. They have 20" screens and faster CPU's... I don't know anyone with dialup that has a screen bigger than 17 inches. I know a shitload of broadband users who think 17" is a joke and 19" is minimal... Sure modem users DO pay for porn. If they didn't, access scripts wouldn't have special routines written into them just for AOL users. But look at the global statistics for who pays for porn. 85% American! Why? Because we have MONEY... Who has money in America? Broadband subscribers do! There is no reason why the stats for who is paying broadband vs. dialup would be any different than who is paying US vs. the rest of the world! It is all about MONEY! I run a TGP with a text version for modem users and a thumbs version for everyone else... Guess which one gets 95% of the traffic? The thumbs version... why? Because even modem users will wait for a picture to load if there is a silky red thong wrapped up inside a tanned globie ass!