Is USA too violent? - GoFuckYourself.com

mika · 04-19-2002, 10:45 PM

I really really respect Johnny Depp. I think he's a great actor.

However, I read that he lives in Paris with his wife and children because USA is too violent.

Is this true?

I always thought that Americans are peaceful

Martin · 04-19-2002, 10:47 PM

Yeah man the USA is fucked but, they think it's all good..

Violent bastards

MetaformX · 04-19-2002, 10:47 PM

fuck johnny dep
thats the sorriest excuse ive ever heard
that motherfucker smashed a hotel room to pieces one time, when he was high.....
hes saying U.S. is too violent? he needs to look in the mirror

but to be honost, yes, U.S. is a violent place. certainly not for pussies like johnny dep

mika · 04-19-2002, 10:49 PM

ok so let me get this straight. Americans prefer use of violence instead of brain?
And that's why Johnny Depp is a pussy cuz he doesnt?

Hot Tropical Babes · 04-19-2002, 10:52 PM

I'm peaceful, well, until I get PMS

MetaformX · 04-19-2002, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
ok so let me get this straight. Americans prefer use of violence instead of brain?
And that's why Johnny Depp is a pussy cuz he doesnt?

no, reread my post

johnny depp is a pussy cause he is a hypocrite
he has gone on many anger binges before.....he did like $6000 damage to a hotel room once.....he himself can be a violent man....
so when he sais he doesnt like to live in the u.s. because it's too violent, hes a hypocryte.

mika · 04-19-2002, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX

no, reread my post
johnny depp is a pussy cause he is a hypocrite
he has gone on many anger binges before.....he did like $6000 damage to a hotel room once.....he himself can be a violent man....
so when he sais he doesnt like to live in the u.s. because it's too violent, hes a hypocryte.

Sorry I didnt know the definition of the word violence. I thought violence is damage done to other people, I didnt think its damage done to hotel rooms.

Btw, I also think he could afford that 6k

But thanks for clearing this out

Shooter · 04-19-2002, 10:58 PM

I was born in the U.S., have lived all over the country and have never had a friend or family member have any problems at all.

Course there's some neighborhoods I'd get a little nervous being in.

redshift · 04-19-2002, 11:00 PM

It depends on where one lives here in the good ol usa

my house hardly ever gets locked - I never lock my car
Out front theirs a stocked tool box,four wheeler, boat etc.
sitting out front
I never worry about anything getting stolen

But 60 miles southwest of me is shreveport,la
you better lock ALL your shit up or it aint gonna be there the mornin

and yes theres alot of people that carry guns around here
including myself. In my 35years I have never fired a gun at another person nor do I know of anyone that has.

BUT if some ass wipe feels lucky one night and crawls in my house
he's a dead motherfucker - and I can shoot him legally, as long as he's "in my house" - can't shoot him in the yard

Do I feel safe here - yes very much so

DatsMyStapler · 04-20-2002, 12:29 AM

you carry gun? thats safe

FlyingIguana · 04-20-2002, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX

no, reread my post
johnny depp is a pussy cause he is a hypocrite
he has gone on many anger binges before.....he did like $6000 damage to a hotel room once.....he himself can be a violent man....
so when he sais he doesnt like to live in the u.s. because it's too violent, hes a hypocryte.

thats not being violent, thats just being a wild baboon

4Pics · 04-20-2002, 12:51 AM

Yeah it's so much more violent then what's going on elsewhere in the world right now.

He's just a pussy and its better that he doesn't live here, guess france suits him just fine.

Rose · 04-20-2002, 07:01 AM

I feel safe in US. Unless you are in Detroit. LOL
When I drive in US I hardly lock my car, but when I am in Europe
I always make sure I lock it good.

Marcus · 04-20-2002, 07:27 AM

He's one to talk.

Johnny Depp trashed a hotel room in NYC costing them $1,200 in damages, was arrested in Vancouver for having a fight with a hotel security guard, and was fucking Kate Moss when she was only 16.

volante · 04-20-2002, 07:50 AM

Some excerpts from http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs/hosb601.pdf :

Homicides per 100,000 population of the city, average per year from 1997 to 1999 :
The average for an EU member states capital is 2.71 per 100,000.

London - 2.36
Edinburgh - 2.15
Belfast - 5.23
Vienna - 1.64
Brussels - 2.67
Prague - 4.28
Copenhagen - 3.43
Paris - 2.21
Berlin - 3.23
Rome - 1.22
Amsterdam - 5.37
Warsaw - 5.49
Moscow - 18.2
Geneva - 1.98
Canberra - 0.64
Sydney - 1.7
Tokyo - 1.17
Pretoria - 27.47
New York - 9.38
Washington DC - 50.82

Homicides per 100,000 population of the country, average per year from 1997 to 1999 :
The average for an EU country is 1.7 per 100,000.

England & Wales - 1.45
Northern Ireland - 3.13
Ireland - 1.35
Scotland - 2.1
Austria - 0.84
France - 1.63
Germany - 1.28
Italy - 1.56
Norway - 0.85
Russia - 20.52
Canada - 1.85
Japan - 1.04
South Africa - 56.49
USA - 6.26

% chance of being a victim of crime (robbery, assaults with force, sexual assault (women only), theft of car, burglary (inc. attempts) per country in 1999:

England & Wales - 26%
Northern Ireland - 15%
Scotland - 23%
France - 21%
Netherlands - 25%
Portugal - 15%
Sweden - 25%
Australia - 30%
Canada - 24%
Japan - 15%
USA - 21%

Some analysis:

You're approx 10 times more likely to be mrdered in Washington DC than in Belfast.
You're approx 10 times more likely to be murdered in South Africa than in the USA.
You're more likely to be the victim of crime in Canada (excluding homicide) than in the US.
You stand the same chance of being a victim of crime (excluding homicide) in the USA and you are in France.

You're 10 times more likely to get flamed on GFY than on Adult Webmaster Info

volante · 04-20-2002, 07:58 AM

Something else I remember reading but don't have exact details.

Number of people shot in the USA in the year 2000 - 40,000
Number of people shot in the UK in the year 2000 - 40

Pornwolf · 04-20-2002, 07:58 AM

I hear this all the time from people overseas. "Oh my gosh, You all carry guns! Your So Violent! Eek!"

Yes, We are violent. But we also have a country that the rest of the world would like to emulate in some way.

We aren't crazy about the fact that we are a little dangerous but it's that same cowboy mentality that we have here that ends up helping other countries out of the deep shit they get into from time to time.

We can handle it, so stop worrying about it.

Fro · 04-20-2002, 08:07 AM

The USA is probably more violent than Finland, but less violent than other places in the world...Hummm...Let's take a look:

For example, Finland has a population of 5,181,115 and had an estimated 27,323 violent offences reported (manslaughter, murder, homicide and assault). That's about 1 violent offence per 190 people.

The USA, God bless Her, had a (based on 2000 data) population of 282,124,631 and an actual (as opposed to reported) figure, based on data gathered from victims (instead of law enforcement entities), of 2,186,700 violent crimes. That's about 1 violent offence per 130 people.

That's interesting.

Fro

LoveAsianChicks · 04-20-2002, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf

Yes, We are violent. But we also have a country that the rest of the world would like to emulate in some way.

I've never heard any country wish they were "more like America".

FATPad · 04-20-2002, 09:10 AM

Our problem is we're not violent enough on repeat violent criminals. Instead of punishing them, we find a syndrome or condition they suffer from, and excuse them because of that.

If repeat violent offenders were actually punished properly here, we'd have a lot less violent crime.

digi · 04-20-2002, 09:18 AM

Every major city has violence..

Sly_RJ · 04-20-2002, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
I really really respect Johnny Depp. I think he's a great actor.

However, I read that he lives in Paris with his wife and children because USA is too violent.

Is this true?

I always thought that Americans are peaceful

What a puss. America is what you make it. There's no violence in my neighborhood. I'm sure a multi-millionaire can find a similar neighborhood wherever he goes.

ProgGod · 04-20-2002, 09:42 AM

Your statistics are scewed for one major reason. They are based on population. Hundreds of millions of people work in DC and NY every day. But no one lives there. The only people that live inside of DC and NY are people who live in the extremely bad and poor neighborhoods. Most of the people that work there live in the nice suburbs around the cities, which are lower crime zones. This is the case in any large city. Most of the cities you wouldn't want to be in at night, but during the day they are crime free.

Sly_RJ · 04-20-2002, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

I've never heard any country wish they were "more like America".

Actions speak louder than words.

Everyone has a problem with the US until they need help. Just like so many Americans have problems with cops until they need help.

volante · 04-20-2002, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ProgGod
Your statistics are scewed for one major reason. They are based on population. Hundreds of millions of people work in DC and NY every day. But no one lives there. The only people that live inside of DC and NY are people who live in the extremely bad and poor neighborhoods. Most of the people that work there live in the nice suburbs around the cities, which are lower crime zones. This is the case in any large city. Most of the cities you wouldn't want to be in at night, but during the day they are crime free.

I guess you missed the "Homicides per 100,000 population of the country" section then.

For wht is worth, I was born and raised in England but now live in the USA. I feel perfectly safe here, and I felt perfectly safe in England.

One thing the stats do show is that the chances of getting murdered are tiny, so don't worry about it - relax, and have a

12clicks · 04-20-2002, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jokke
Yes i would newer live in USA thats for sure

If we could only get *ALL* the dopey foriegners thinking this way, the US would be a better place.

Also, US crime revolves around our underclass which, instead of letting die off, our liberal dopes have decided to prop up and allow to multiply. (one of the reasons D.C. is so riddled with crime)

The crime rate in my town is so low that they report traffic violations for lack of any other news.

LoveAsianChicks · 04-20-2002, 10:09 AM

12clicks - it has been proven time & time again that many foriegners work very hard or bring money with them.
Only the illegals drag a country down.

America not long ago, was formed by "foriegners". Unless your a Native Indian, I bet someone in your history moved from Europe to America at some point.

12clicks · 04-20-2002, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

America not long ago, was formed by "foriegners". Unless your a Native Indian, I bet someone in your history moved from Europe to America at some point.

yes, and the rest of the world appriciated us for the help we were doling out. That doesn't hold true today. The ONLY true friend the US has is England. Every other country has one hand out for our money while the other hand is holding a "down with America" sign.

Its time for America to take a year off from propping up the world so that mikas and martins of the world realize just how much we do.

FATPad · 04-20-2002, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

yes, and the rest of the world appriciated us for the help we were doling out. That doesn't hold true today. The ONLY true friend the US has is England. Every other country has one hand out for our money while the other hand is holding a "down with America" sign.

Its time for America to take a year off from propping up the world so that mikas and martins of the world realize just how much we do.

That is very true. I get sick of hearing people talk about how evil the US is while in their next breath telling us how much more we owe the world because everything we've already done and still do isn't enough.

baddog · 04-20-2002, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by volante

You're 10 times more likely to get flamed on GFY than on Adult Webmaster Info

Hey if you can not stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

baddog · 04-20-2002, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by volante
Something else I remember reading but don't have exact details.

Number of people shot in the USA in the year 2000 - 40,000
Number of people shot in the UK in the year 2000 - 40

Now that is funny. Well, at least now these facts are memorialized somewhere that we can all access them, sort of a GFY database of facts from around the world.

baddog · 04-20-2002, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

I've never heard any country wish they were "more like America".

I always wondered if you were a chick or not, but I am guessing with that piece of brilliance that you must be. Thank you for clearing that up.

baddog · 04-20-2002, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jokke
Yes i would newer live in USA thats for sure

On behalf of Americans everywhere, may I say, Thank you!

Steve · 04-20-2002, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
Yeah man the USA is fucked but, they think it's all good..

Violent bastards

You keep slamming the USA and I'll bash your face!

baddog · 04-20-2002, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve

You keep slamming the USA and I'll bash your face!

LoveAsianChicks · 04-20-2002, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

I always wondered if you were a chick or not, but I am guessing with that piece of brilliance that you must be. Thank you for clearing that up.

LOL - Glad you reached your conclusion.
I'm still wondering if your a fag or not.
Post a few more times & I might be able to guess.

[Labret] · 04-20-2002, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rose
I feel safe in US. Unless you are in Detroit. LOL

People in Detroit can smell weakness and fear.

Detroit weeds out the non-hackers and the weak.

DamnFineOnline · 04-20-2002, 04:52 PM

Johnny Depp is a pussy...

JerkOffGoblin · 04-20-2002, 04:57 PM

Have you seen my underwear? Their missing. It was those insidious monkeys wasn't it? Get my 'piece' Gwen!

Fro · 04-20-2002, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]

People in Detroit can smell weakness and fear.

Detroit weeds out the non-hackers and the weak.

04-19-2002, 10:45 PM	#1
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	Is USA too violent? I really really respect Johnny Depp. I think he's a great actor. However, I read that he lives in Paris with his wife and children because USA is too violent. Is this true? I always thought that Americans are peaceful

04-19-2002, 10:47 PM	#2
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Yeah man the USA is fucked but, they think it's all good.. Violent bastards Last edited by Martin; 04-19-2002 at 10:49 PM..

04-19-2002, 10:47 PM	#3
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	fuck johnny dep thats the sorriest excuse ive ever heard that motherfucker smashed a hotel room to pieces one time, when he was high..... hes saying U.S. is too violent? he needs to look in the mirror but to be honost, yes, U.S. is a violent place. certainly not for pussies like johnny dep __________________

04-19-2002, 10:52 PM	#5
Hot Tropical Babes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 3,014	I'm peaceful, well, until I get PMS __________________ <BR> Trade with Big Tits TGP Trade with Titman

04-20-2002, 12:29 AM	#10
DatsMyStapler Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 125	you carry gun? thats safe __________________ SexyListX.com

04-19-2002, 10:49 PM	#4
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	ok so let me get this straight. Americans prefer use of violence instead of brain? And that's why Johnny Depp is a pussy cuz he doesnt?

04-19-2002, 10:58 PM	#8
Shooter Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,842	I was born in the U.S., have lived all over the country and have never had a friend or family member have any problems at all. Course there's some neighborhoods I'd get a little nervous being in.

04-19-2002, 11:00 PM	#9
redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	It depends on where one lives here in the good ol usa my house hardly ever gets locked - I never lock my car Out front theirs a stocked tool box,four wheeler, boat etc. sitting out front I never worry about anything getting stolen But 60 miles southwest of me is shreveport,la you better lock ALL your shit up or it aint gonna be there the mornin and yes theres alot of people that carry guns around here including myself. In my 35years I have never fired a gun at another person nor do I know of anyone that has. BUT if some ass wipe feels lucky one night and crawls in my house he's a dead motherfucker - and I can shoot him legally, as long as he's "in my house" - can't shoot him in the yard Do I feel safe here - yes very much so

04-20-2002, 12:51 AM	#12
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Yeah it's so much more violent then what's going on elsewhere in the world right now. He's just a pussy and its better that he doesn't live here, guess france suits him just fine.

04-20-2002, 07:01 AM	#13
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	I feel safe in US. Unless you are in Detroit. LOL When I drive in US I hardly lock my car, but when I am in Europe I always make sure I lock it good.

04-20-2002, 07:27 AM	#14
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	He's one to talk. Johnny Depp trashed a hotel room in NYC costing them $1,200 in damages, was arrested in Vancouver for having a fight with a hotel security guard, and was fucking Kate Moss when she was only 16.

04-20-2002, 07:50 AM	#15
volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	Some excerpts from http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs/hosb601.pdf : Homicides per 100,000 population of the city, average per year from 1997 to 1999 : The average for an EU member states capital is 2.71 per 100,000. London - 2.36 Edinburgh - 2.15 Belfast - 5.23 Vienna - 1.64 Brussels - 2.67 Prague - 4.28 Copenhagen - 3.43 Paris - 2.21 Berlin - 3.23 Rome - 1.22 Amsterdam - 5.37 Warsaw - 5.49 Moscow - 18.2 Geneva - 1.98 Canberra - 0.64 Sydney - 1.7 Tokyo - 1.17 Pretoria - 27.47 New York - 9.38 Washington DC - 50.82 Homicides per 100,000 population of the country, average per year from 1997 to 1999 : The average for an EU country is 1.7 per 100,000. England & Wales - 1.45 Northern Ireland - 3.13 Ireland - 1.35 Scotland - 2.1 Austria - 0.84 France - 1.63 Germany - 1.28 Italy - 1.56 Norway - 0.85 Russia - 20.52 Canada - 1.85 Japan - 1.04 South Africa - 56.49 USA - 6.26 % chance of being a victim of crime (robbery, assaults with force, sexual assault (women only), theft of car, burglary (inc. attempts) per country in 1999: England & Wales - 26% Northern Ireland - 15% Scotland - 23% France - 21% Netherlands - 25% Portugal - 15% Sweden - 25% Australia - 30% Canada - 24% Japan - 15% USA - 21% Some analysis: You're approx 10 times more likely to be mrdered in Washington DC than in Belfast. You're approx 10 times more likely to be murdered in South Africa than in the USA. You're more likely to be the victim of crime in Canada (excluding homicide) than in the US. You stand the same chance of being a victim of crime (excluding homicide) in the USA and you are in France. You're 10 times more likely to get flamed on GFY than on Adult Webmaster Info Last edited by volante; 04-20-2002 at 07:52 AM..

04-20-2002, 07:58 AM	#16
volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	Something else I remember reading but don't have exact details. Number of people shot in the USA in the year 2000 - 40,000 Number of people shot in the UK in the year 2000 - 40

04-20-2002, 07:58 AM	#17
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I hear this all the time from people overseas. "Oh my gosh, You all carry guns! Your So Violent! Eek!" Yes, We are violent. But we also have a country that the rest of the world would like to emulate in some way. We aren't crazy about the fact that we are a little dangerous but it's that same cowboy mentality that we have here that ends up helping other countries out of the deep shit they get into from time to time. We can handle it, so stop worrying about it.

04-20-2002, 08:07 AM	#18
Fro Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mee-chi-gaan Posts: 709	The USA is probably more violent than Finland, but less violent than other places in the world...Hummm...Let's take a look: For example, Finland has a population of 5,181,115 and had an estimated 27,323 violent offences reported (manslaughter, murder, homicide and assault). That's about 1 violent offence per 190 people. The USA, God bless Her, had a (based on 2000 data) population of 282,124,631 and an actual (as opposed to reported) figure, based on data gathered from victims (instead of law enforcement entities), of 2,186,700 violent crimes. That's about 1 violent offence per 130 people. That's interesting. Fro __________________ I miss [Labret]. Last edited by Fro; 04-20-2002 at 08:11 AM..

04-20-2002, 09:10 AM	#20
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Our problem is we're not violent enough on repeat violent criminals. Instead of punishing them, we find a syndrome or condition they suffer from, and excuse them because of that. If repeat violent offenders were actually punished properly here, we'd have a lot less violent crime. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

04-20-2002, 09:18 AM	#21
digi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,314	Every major city has violence.. __________________

04-20-2002, 09:42 AM	#23
ProgGod Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 155	Your statistics are scewed for one major reason. They are based on population. Hundreds of millions of people work in DC and NY every day. But no one lives there. The only people that live inside of DC and NY are people who live in the extremely bad and poor neighborhoods. Most of the people that work there live in the nice suburbs around the cities, which are lower crime zones. This is the case in any large city. Most of the cities you wouldn't want to be in at night, but during the day they are crime free.

04-20-2002, 10:09 AM	#27
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	12clicks - it has been proven time & time again that many foriegners work very hard or bring money with them. Only the illegals drag a country down. America not long ago, was formed by "foriegners". Unless your a Native Indian, I bet someone in your history moved from Europe to America at some point. Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 04-20-2002 at 10:13 AM..

04-20-2002, 04:52 PM	#38
DamnFineOnline Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: palm beach, fl. Posts: 348	Johnny Depp is a pussy...

04-20-2002, 04:57 PM	#39
JerkOffGoblin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dildo, Newfoundland Posts: 14	Have you seen my underwear? Their missing. It was those insidious monkeys wasn't it? Get my 'piece' Gwen! __________________ I'm going to castrate your puppy and do naughty things with the hole!