bigdog: yes, that's what i'm saying.

I really think people have way too high ideas of type in traffic from this method, when placed on a gallery why the heck would they type in http://www.paysitewithhotchickssuckingcock.com when right next to the picture there is an easy link saying "Click Here to go to the site" ?

Where the typein traffic comes from is for instance from the guy that saves the pics on his computer and then later only have the url on the pics to find the site again, or from those taking the pics and post them to boards or newsgroups (if they don't replace the watermark first anyways)

In the first case you might actually make an extra sale through the cookie tracking, in the second you would not, but wouldn't have anyways.

Another thing is that marking with Url will clearly show the surfer that this set belongs to the site and that will asure him that he will be able to find the rest of that set inside.

So that also go for the paysite tour? No mention of the URL anywhere... I mean using the logic from your argument, then the surfer may never be exposed to any urls at all, unless the sponsor is paying you per impression, and there is not much difference between the FHG and tour, both are using the sponsors design, content and hosting - just different landing pages for "your" surfers.

If it is one of those generic 403 server error pages then yeah as they will just click back since it is basically a blank page. I think the concern was that if the server is set to deliver a custom 403 error page, or any custom error page, than any/all links on it should lead back to the tour and provide proper credit.

Because they have really niche content and some kick ass tools. It will take me probably 2 months to get there, but I think the extra tools make it worth it.

The program with the 500$ minimum payout is Eurorevenue by the way. They do not advertise it, you have to go read the terms and conditions.
I like the program though, so the minimum payout is the only negative thing I can think of from them. Everything else is great.

plenty of them

from eurorevenue

What is the minimum payout?
Your account must have earned $50 or more in a given pay period for payments to be released. If you have made less than that the amount will be carried over to the next month until $50 has been reached.

so what's the deal with $500 min?

I'm not sure SoulRebel I'm just going by their TOS
http://www.eurorevenue.com/external.php?page=tos
Says there it is a 500$ minimum payout.

I want to reiterate yet again, I signed up with the program knowing it had that payout because of their niche content. I think their conversions will make up for the high minimum payout

And to reitterate, this is from the FAQ page:

"What is the minimum payout?
Your account must have earned $50 or more in a given pay period for payments to be released. If you have made less than that the amount will be carried over to the next month until $50 has been reached. "


You should email them and ask for a correct minimum payout and point them to the errors which they may have no clue about.

One typo on the TOS is 50% more likely than 2 typos on the faq page ;)

i see, more likely as tom pointed out has to be a mistake.

bump8chr

Has anyone ever ever questioned a high level of "credits" from a sponsor - where you think you've made a sale only to see it disappear in the form of a credit - some time try asking for an audit of those so-called credits and see what happens...

Ha Ha Ha This is funny people spend so much time and effort trying to find fault with sponsors because of a few bad programs out there. I found a program in 2000 which at the time was a new amateur site. The first year i made $60,000 and now in my 5th year i make almost 4 times that amount. Never had a single issue that wasn't fixed within 24 hours. Am i going to post that program on GFY ? No way its small its honest and only a few hundred affiliates promote it. Why would i want to over saturate the market.

Instead of looking for faults test out some programs with your own type of traffic and see what works for you ...:2 cents:

oh and i also love how a couple of programs snuck email collector boxes on their tours without any notification to webmasters, or offereing box-free tours, or even getting credit per email.

Well if you had lost 1000s due to one or more of the things mentioned in this thread, I doubt you would find it funny. The time and effort it takes to post about one of these things is nothing compared to the time and effort wasted promoting a sponsor that tries to secretly monetize your traffic without giving you credit.

That is great you found a program that you like. No one is asking for people to post about sponsors that don't do this stuff but rather about the things some sponsors do that lower your income.

I think bringing to light the faults of programs makes it that much easier for others to know what programs to test out their traffic with so that, like you, they can find a program they like. :2 cents:

Yes, I have. I always ask the sponsor if credits, chargebacks or refunds appear. Most don´t reply to e-mails, which seems to be a general problem with sponsor reps.
Actually I´ve got a strange stats problem with a sponsor using nats. When I click my stats, a signup doesn´t show up. When I click the uniques for that date, there is a signup for bookmarks.

So I e-mailed the sponsor:
"Hi,

I´ve got a signup showing up in the detailed stats which isn´t shown in the overview. Would you please have a look at it.
Screenshots are attached."

kind regards
Frank"

That´s his reply:

"which site and which pay period and which campaign.
Sincerely Yours,
Affiliate Support"

Obviously he didn´t take the time to have a look into the screenshots, otherwise he should have seen that exactly this was the problem, no signup at this part of the stats.

So I answered as follows:

"That´s exactly the problem. I don´t see this signup in the stats overview, too. Please click unique hits for today, there is the signup displayed for bookmarks.

I sent you the screenshots from both stats sites with my last e-mail, but you should see the signup clicking on uniques for today."

That´s it. No reply to that e-mail. I´m curious about they will take care of this problem.

This was a really good thread. :thumbsup

Members Only and Members Enter Here type links when the member login page is capable of retrieving the affiliate code is one point. Especially for those that prefer 'partnership' payouts.

Use to not be as big of a deal as surfers had to use their back button, but with new forms, etc. it is becoming a bigger issue

oops, still is:thumbsup

100 minimum payouts...a lot of money gets left on the table

I'm glad someone bumped this.. I never saw it but will read it ALL in the AM.
:thumbsup

www.southerngirlcash.com - NO SECRETS... but I will definately read this thread thorougly to make sure I'm not missing out on anything! haha j/k! ;)

I've found a ridiculous amount of 404's on tours and join pages that entice the surfer to click but don't include your affiliate code. For instance just today I was looking at a program that actively posts to this board and I noticed that they are 404ing their join page signup form. They don't show the price of membership on the join page. So if a surfer wants to see how much the site costs and tries to skip the email collection form the page 404's to the house account. Pretty sneaky and the way its set up I'm willing to bet a hell of a lot of people are being shaved big time from it.

We have no dirty secrets. Never have, never will. :2 cents:

back to the front for a minute

MIP doesnt remove site without telling you thats would be pretty fucking shitty


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Bump for Dustman... runs a tight program.. unlike his girls... ok that joke sucked :disgust

Sounds like some of you should just open up your own paysites.

Great thread, very informative :thumbsup

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