Probably cutting my own throat here, but... - GoFuckYourself.com

railz · 04-18-2002, 05:51 AM

My latest Gallery Template

Was submitted to all the usual (by hand, of course) without a single acceptance. I'd really like your input on what to change about it.

Things I have been told so far.

(1) Use CSS for the text banners - to be honest, I was in photoshop and banged them out at the same time I did the background.

(2) Take the text out of the form box and put it actually in a table cell with a span class.

(3) An eye-catching banner or two.

But just to let you all know:

I already formatted C:

I have never fucked her

Thanks in advance.

chodadog · 04-18-2002, 05:54 AM

That's a pretty well done gallery, dude.

DarkJedi · 04-18-2002, 05:57 AM

nice gallery man - the answer to why TGP owners accept shit galleries instead of quality gallries still eludes me

here's mine - http://www.pornharbour.com/free/3/ no one accepted it

railz · 04-18-2002, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
That's a pretty well done gallery, dude.

Thanks

About the only good thing that's come out of the past month. Glandular Fever sucks big donkey dick

railz · 04-18-2002, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
nice gallery man - the answer to why TGP owners accept shit galleries instead of quality gallries still eludes me

here's mine - http://www.pornharbour.com/free/3/ no one accepted it

Cool

So what did happen when the football team busted in?

Martin · 04-18-2002, 05:59 AM

I know why.. To many out going links to your sponsor..

railz · 04-18-2002, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
I know why.. To many out going links to your sponsor..

Now yah lost me (I promise, once I shake this Glandular Fever and get rid of the permenant "just woke up feeling" in a few weeks, I'll look back at this and cringe).

Three on the main page with the filter at the bottom. Maybe remove that and link it to an FPA instead?

FlyingIguana · 04-18-2002, 06:07 AM

rebills at 70 bux? can u imagine what a noobie surfer is gonna think after see'n that ad? they're gonna be scared shitless and never sign up to a porn site.

seems like ur shooting urself in the foot to make 5 bux.

Fatum · 04-18-2002, 06:12 AM

The page doesnt load all, many thumbs are broken...Maybe a host problem you should check...
Also tgp owners hate tens of sponsor links, just remove the bottom links and add another "join" button

pipp · 04-18-2002, 06:16 AM

Same here can't get that page to load

DarkJedi · 04-18-2002, 06:19 AM

get yourself a new isp - everything works perfectly

railz · 04-18-2002, 06:21 AM

Fine here. Mind posting a traceroute for me guys?

RockDaddy · 04-18-2002, 06:31 AM

Looks good Railz,

If you are having a problem getting listed with the tgps then it is probably...

1. Most hate the 4 free sites, free passwords, etc...
2. Most want a max of 1 sponsor link per 5 thumbs with many of the bigger ones wanting only two links per page max.
3. Takes a while to get listed someplaces, I'm sure you know. Especially if you are submitting to the ones you do by hand.

Loaded fine and looks good though.

RD

railz · 04-18-2002, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jokke
Come on man you giving away so high quality shit there, peopl can just jerk off and newer pay a dime

IT SUCKS

Couldn't you say the same of any TGP gallery? But thanks for your input anyway.

DialerNET · 04-18-2002, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by railz
Glandular Fever sucks big donkey dick

I feel your pain.. In fact I've bene feeling it for the last 6 months on and off.
I wish you'd stop now. I want my life back.

Jason.

genomega · 04-18-2002, 09:15 AM

Fuck em, start your own.
The list of rules and egos grow larger by the day.

XXXPaysiteDesign · 04-18-2002, 09:23 AM

IMO -

To many pictures, you only need 15... and at the bottom remove the links to the sponsors, that will probably help you get listed.

Rocky · 04-18-2002, 09:51 AM

i like both the galleries by railz and darkjedi

but as was mentioned some TGP's won't accept your gallery railz because of having 8 sponsor links (all to the same sponsor but to different sites within) and because of using the word "free"

the gallery is clean and the sponsor links do not interfere with the quality of the page so i would have no problems listing this type of layout

and i don't understand why no one is listing your gallery darkjedi

it's fast loading, clean and the layout is very nice

Steve · 04-18-2002, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
get yourself a new isp - everything works perfectly

No, it doesn't. Maybe there is some kind of network trouble going on today, but I normally do not have connection problems. over 1/2 of his thumbs do not load.

Lose the links to all the different sites on the bottom. If Brownie script is set to calculate % of outgoing links, your page won't pass. You can easily use a LARGE link(text/banner) to replace them, and filter them to a FPA which will do the same job, and give you exit traffic you can use any way you want (I suggest no blur/enter consoles on FPA's fed by TGP galleries, it might appear to be an exit off the gallery to a reviewer)

Also, I can't see why the LSU gallery did not get linked. When did you submit it? A few days ago, a week ago, last night? It should be listed, it's a nice looking page. Can be either teen, amateur, or voyeur.

railz · 04-18-2002, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve

No, it doesn't. Maybe there is some kind of network trouble going on today, but I normally do not have connection problems. over 1/2 of his thumbs do not load.

I'm thinking then that there's some kind of network issue. If you could post a tracert from dos or ICQ it to me, that would be a big help. I'm hosted with ISPrime.

Quote:

Lose the links to all the different sites on the bottom. If Brownie script is set to calculate % of outgoing links, your page won't pass.

Gotcha.

Quote:

You can easily use a LARGE link(text/banner) to replace them, and filter them to a FPA which will do the same job, and give you exit traffic you can use any way you want (I suggest no blur/enter consoles on FPA's fed by TGP galleries, it might appear to be an exit off the gallery to a reviewer)

I thought about this for an update - an exit pop to one of my sites. Thought this would be frowned upon though?

Quote:

Also, I can't see why the LSU gallery did not get linked. When did you submit it? A few days ago, a week ago, last night? It should be listed, it's a nice looking page. Can be either teen, amateur, or voyeur. [/B]

Me neither. Sometimes this stuff baffles the hell out of me.

railz · 04-18-2002, 10:12 AM

I hate this damn illness, but I have to ask because I cannot see it.

Where did I use the word "free" or link to a 4free sponsor?

Steve · 04-18-2002, 10:34 AM

Here is what I could copy/paste from the DOS screen:

11 43 ms 43 ms 44 ms p1-0.level3.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [209.245.24
0.154]
12 47 ms 47 ms 48 ms p4-6-3-0.r02.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5
.3]
13 75 ms 76 ms 76 ms p16-2-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
5.35]
14 80 ms 79 ms 80 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3
.106]
15 80 ms 79 ms 81 ms p4-0-0.r01.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.1
54]
16 82 ms 82 ms 81 ms p4-0-0-0.r01.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3
.126]
17 84 ms 82 ms 83 ms p16-7-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
5.13]
18 82 ms 83 ms 84 ms ge-1-1.a00.nycmny01.us.da.verio.net [129.250.25.
114]
19 83 ms 84 ms 83 ms ge-3-4.a00.nycmny01.us.ce.verio.net [128.241.245
.84]
20 84 ms 84 ms 83 ms 157.238.207.10
21 83 ms 84 ms 85 ms free-thumb-gallery.com [157.238.204.162]

Trace complete.

Steve · 04-18-2002, 10:36 AM

Here is one from another machine in TX

traceroute to free-thumb-gallery.com (157.238.204.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 netopia.fmp.com (216.30.131.49) 3.826 ms 3.336 ms 2.181 ms
2 aus-core-02-s6-1-0-4.jump.net (207.8.120.189) 8.984 ms 6.465 ms 6.646 ms
3 aus-core-10-g6-0-0.jump.net (207.8.1.5) 8.183 ms 11.842 ms 10.787 ms
4 aus-core-03-f1-0-0.jump.net (207.8.1.2) 13.575 ms 9.095 ms 12.637 ms
5 hou-core-01-s4-1-0.jump.net (206.196.94.9) 14.526 ms 11.951 ms 12.082 ms
6 gige5-0-178.hsipaccess2.Houston1.Level3.net (209.247.109.113) 12.263 ms 11.856 ms 14.791 ms
7 ge-6-0-1.mp2.Houston1.Level3.net (209.247.11.193) 12.607 ms 12.577 ms 13.323 ms
8 so-5-1-0.mp1.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.11.170) 17.756 ms 17.156 ms 20.22 ms
9 pos8-0.core2.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.10.102) 19.486 ms 17.545 ms 21.785 ms
10 p1-0.level3.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (209.245.240.154) 43.046 ms 40.232 ms 38.893 ms
11 p4-6-3-0.r02.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.3) 38.618 ms 39.304 ms 45.994 ms
12 p16-2-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.35) 48.636 ms 52.201 ms 49.449 ms
13 p4-6-0-0.r00.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.106) 54.508 ms 51.248 ms 51.207 ms
14 p4-0-0.r01.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.154) 51.17 ms 53.411 ms 52.358 ms
15 p4-0-0-0.r01.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.126) 55.328 ms 54.95 ms 55.01 ms
16 p16-7-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.13) 57.976 ms 56.75 ms 58.633 ms
17 ge-1-1.a00.nycmny01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.25.114) 59.752 ms 70.737 ms 75.265 ms
18 ge-3-4.a00.nycmny01.us.ce.verio.net (128.241.245.84) 71.25 ms 58.369 ms 68.892 ms
19 157.238.207.10 (157.238.207.10) 80.091 ms 57.976 ms 57.163 ms
20 ns.payne.isprime.com (157.238.204.162) 63.121 ms 59.834 ms 59.334 ms

beemk · 04-18-2002, 10:41 AM

mabye its the content.... those pictures are all pretty similiar. i like the gallery though.

hank · 04-18-2002, 10:46 AM

Railz,

youre right.
you cant use an exit pop on your galleries.
however, instead of sponsors, you can send your hits to a full page ad with as many links you want.
there you can add an exit chain.

and i dont know what these people are smokin cuz your gallery is nice.
maybe you could get rid of some of the pics cuz they seem too repetitive.

DTK · 04-18-2002, 10:46 AM

Nice template, bud

I agree with DarkJedi that you should only need 15 pics max.

the Shemp · 04-18-2002, 11:00 AM

Most TGPs use a script for a "pre filter" . This checks the number of pix, the numer of links to ads, a recip check (if required) cross reference to the blacklist, a previously submitted cross reference etc, etc..

With 10 links to ads, most scripts will delete your gallery before the webmaster even sees it.

regards

shemp

Rocky · 04-18-2002, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by railz
I hate this damn illness, but I have to ask because I cannot see it.

Where did I use the word "free" or link to a 4free sponsor?

hehehe

i have to stop looking at my freeezinebucks stats

just to clarify...no, you did not use the word free

RedShoe · 04-18-2002, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DTK
Nice template, bud I agree with DarkJedi that you should only need 15 pics max.

Ditto

Snake Doctor · 04-18-2002, 11:18 AM

Railz, that's a nice layout and a good sales pitch

You get their attention, but not in an obnoxious way, and nothing is linked to the sponsor until you get past the first set of thumbs which makes TGP owners happy.

The money bar at the bottom is probably what's hurting you, just a link that says "click here to see all of the categories" or something like that should do the trick, and link that to a jump page with all of those links on it.

Of course having "network issues" doesn't help either, but that should get listed and should make some $$ if you lose the table at the bottom.

Za Ha · 04-18-2002, 11:22 AM

1) Pictures are too nice.

2) Half of the pics dont load.

3) 1 & 2

ez12 · 04-18-2002, 11:30 AM

looks great

railz · 04-18-2002, 11:43 AM

thanks for all the tips. Will edit it all up later on.

This thing about it not loading is bugging the shit out of me though. If it's not loading, what version of which browser are you using?

04-18-2002, 05:51 AM	#1
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	Probably cutting my own throat here, but... My latest Gallery Template Was submitted to all the usual (by hand, of course) without a single acceptance. I'd really like your input on what to change about it. Things I have been told so far. (1) Use CSS for the text banners - to be honest, I was in photoshop and banged them out at the same time I did the background. (2) Take the text out of the form box and put it actually in a table cell with a span class. (3) An eye-catching banner or two. But just to let you all know: I already formatted C: I have never fucked her Thanks in advance. __________________ This Space for Rent

04-18-2002, 06:21 AM	#12
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	Fine here. Mind posting a traceroute for me guys? __________________ This Space for Rent

04-18-2002, 09:23 AM	#17
XXXPaysiteDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,201	IMO - To many pictures, you only need 15... and at the bottom remove the links to the sponsors, that will probably help you get listed. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

04-18-2002, 09:51 AM	#18
Rocky Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Living Off The Grid Posts: 3,022	i like both the galleries by railz and darkjedi but as was mentioned some TGP's won't accept your gallery railz because of having 8 sponsor links (all to the same sponsor but to different sites within) and because of using the word "free" the gallery is clean and the sponsor links do not interfere with the quality of the page so i would have no problems listing this type of layout and i don't understand why no one is listing your gallery darkjedi it's fast loading, clean and the layout is very nice __________________ Are you down with Sin?

04-18-2002, 10:12 AM	#21
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	I hate this damn illness, but I have to ask because I cannot see it. Where did I use the word "free" or link to a 4free sponsor? __________________ This Space for Rent

04-18-2002, 05:54 AM	#2
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	That's a pretty well done gallery, dude.

04-18-2002, 05:57 AM	#3
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	nice gallery man - the answer to why TGP owners accept shit galleries instead of quality gallries still eludes me here's mine - http://www.pornharbour.com/free/3/ no one accepted it

04-18-2002, 05:59 AM	#6
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I know why.. To many out going links to your sponsor..

04-18-2002, 06:07 AM	#8
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	rebills at 70 bux? can u imagine what a noobie surfer is gonna think after see'n that ad? they're gonna be scared shitless and never sign up to a porn site. seems like ur shooting urself in the foot to make 5 bux.

04-18-2002, 06:12 AM	#9
Fatum Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 404 Posts: 459	The page doesnt load all, many thumbs are broken...Maybe a host problem you should check... Also tgp owners hate tens of sponsor links, just remove the bottom links and add another "join" button

04-18-2002, 06:16 AM	#10
pipp Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Where the sun don't shine Posts: 1,185	Same here can't get that page to load

04-18-2002, 06:19 AM	#11
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	get yourself a new isp - everything works perfectly

04-18-2002, 06:31 AM	#13
RockDaddy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 750	Looks good Railz, If you are having a problem getting listed with the tgps then it is probably... 1. Most hate the 4 free sites, free passwords, etc... 2. Most want a max of 1 sponsor link per 5 thumbs with many of the bigger ones wanting only two links per page max. 3. Takes a while to get listed someplaces, I'm sure you know. Especially if you are submitting to the ones you do by hand. Loaded fine and looks good though. RD

04-18-2002, 09:15 AM	#16
genomega Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NW Florida Posts: 1,190	Fuck em, start your own. The list of rules and egos grow larger by the day.

04-18-2002, 10:34 AM	#22
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Here is what I could copy/paste from the DOS screen: 11 43 ms 43 ms 44 ms p1-0.level3.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [209.245.24 0.154] 12 47 ms 47 ms 48 ms p4-6-3-0.r02.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5 .3] 13 75 ms 76 ms 76 ms p16-2-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 5.35] 14 80 ms 79 ms 80 ms p4-6-0-0.r00.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3 .106] 15 80 ms 79 ms 81 ms p4-0-0.r01.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.1 54] 16 82 ms 82 ms 81 ms p4-0-0-0.r01.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3 .126] 17 84 ms 82 ms 83 ms p16-7-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 5.13] 18 82 ms 83 ms 84 ms ge-1-1.a00.nycmny01.us.da.verio.net [129.250.25. 114] 19 83 ms 84 ms 83 ms ge-3-4.a00.nycmny01.us.ce.verio.net [128.241.245 .84] 20 84 ms 84 ms 83 ms 157.238.207.10 21 83 ms 84 ms 85 ms free-thumb-gallery.com [157.238.204.162] Trace complete.

04-18-2002, 10:36 AM	#23
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Here is one from another machine in TX traceroute to free-thumb-gallery.com (157.238.204.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 netopia.fmp.com (216.30.131.49) 3.826 ms 3.336 ms 2.181 ms 2 aus-core-02-s6-1-0-4.jump.net (207.8.120.189) 8.984 ms 6.465 ms 6.646 ms 3 aus-core-10-g6-0-0.jump.net (207.8.1.5) 8.183 ms 11.842 ms 10.787 ms 4 aus-core-03-f1-0-0.jump.net (207.8.1.2) 13.575 ms 9.095 ms 12.637 ms 5 hou-core-01-s4-1-0.jump.net (206.196.94.9) 14.526 ms 11.951 ms 12.082 ms 6 gige5-0-178.hsipaccess2.Houston1.Level3.net (209.247.109.113) 12.263 ms 11.856 ms 14.791 ms 7 ge-6-0-1.mp2.Houston1.Level3.net (209.247.11.193) 12.607 ms 12.577 ms 13.323 ms 8 so-5-1-0.mp1.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.11.170) 17.756 ms 17.156 ms 20.22 ms 9 pos8-0.core2.Dallas1.Level3.net (209.247.10.102) 19.486 ms 17.545 ms 21.785 ms 10 p1-0.level3.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (209.245.240.154) 43.046 ms 40.232 ms 38.893 ms 11 p4-6-3-0.r02.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.3) 38.618 ms 39.304 ms 45.994 ms 12 p16-2-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.35) 48.636 ms 52.201 ms 49.449 ms 13 p4-6-0-0.r00.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.106) 54.508 ms 51.248 ms 51.207 ms 14 p4-0-0.r01.phlapa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.154) 51.17 ms 53.411 ms 52.358 ms 15 p4-0-0-0.r01.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.126) 55.328 ms 54.95 ms 55.01 ms 16 p16-7-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.13) 57.976 ms 56.75 ms 58.633 ms 17 ge-1-1.a00.nycmny01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.25.114) 59.752 ms 70.737 ms 75.265 ms 18 ge-3-4.a00.nycmny01.us.ce.verio.net (128.241.245.84) 71.25 ms 58.369 ms 68.892 ms 19 157.238.207.10 (157.238.207.10) 80.091 ms 57.976 ms 57.163 ms 20 ns.payne.isprime.com (157.238.204.162) 63.121 ms 59.834 ms 59.334 ms

04-18-2002, 10:41 AM	#24
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	mabye its the content.... those pictures are all pretty similiar. i like the gallery though. __________________ I host with Vacares

04-18-2002, 10:46 AM	#25
hank Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hanks House Posts: 85	Railz, youre right. you cant use an exit pop on your galleries. however, instead of sponsors, you can send your hits to a full page ad with as many links you want. there you can add an exit chain. and i dont know what these people are smokin cuz your gallery is nice. maybe you could get rid of some of the pics cuz they seem too repetitive. __________________ <a href="http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/b35298" onMouseover="window.status='Make mass money instantly';return true" onMouseout="window.status='';return true">aff</a> - cuz everyone needs a date!

04-18-2002, 10:46 AM	#26
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Nice template, bud I agree with DarkJedi that you should only need 15 pics max.

04-18-2002, 11:00 AM	#27
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	Most TGPs use a script for a "pre filter" . This checks the number of pix, the numer of links to ads, a recip check (if required) cross reference to the blacklist, a previously submitted cross reference etc, etc.. With 10 links to ads, most scripts will delete your gallery before the webmaster even sees it. regards shemp

04-18-2002, 11:18 AM	#30
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Railz, that's a nice layout and a good sales pitch You get their attention, but not in an obnoxious way, and nothing is linked to the sponsor until you get past the first set of thumbs which makes TGP owners happy. The money bar at the bottom is probably what's hurting you, just a link that says "click here to see all of the categories" or something like that should do the trick, and link that to a jump page with all of those links on it. Of course having "network issues" doesn't help either, but that should get listed and should make some $$ if you lose the table at the bottom. __________________ sig too big

04-18-2002, 11:22 AM	#31
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	1) Pictures are too nice. 2) Half of the pics dont load. 3) 1 & 2

04-18-2002, 11:30 AM	#32
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	looks great __________________ Main sites: Duclerck.com & Diderote.com My Hosting: AmeriNOC My Sponsors: NewNudeCash, Silvercash, Sapphic Cash, BCash4you Email: webmaster @ duclerck.com

04-18-2002, 11:43 AM	#33
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	thanks for all the tips. Will edit it all up later on. This thing about it not loading is bugging the shit out of me though. If it's not loading, what version of which browser are you using? __________________ This Space for Rent