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Old 02-05-2006, 08:35 AM   #1
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Danish products removed from Toronto stores

We're only a few days in to this Muslim cartoon stupidity - and already I'm fucking sick of this sheer nonsense. Now we have it leaping across the Atlantic here to Canada. These fucktards are involving Canadians in something that has absolutely nothing to do with our country or culture.

Sure...our country allows the freedom to peacefully demonstrate and protest if they choose. But WHY do they feel the need to drag this issue to our shores? Denmark is a world away from us - the average Canadian has likely never even been to Denmark. Yet here we have these religious protestors (with far too much spare time on their hands) - using our country as a protest venue for their nonsense.

Get a goddamn life people. Go to work. Go ski the slopes with your kids. Go for a walk along the lake. Take in a movie.

But shut the fuck up with your religious crap.

You're acting like backwards third-world morons in a civilized western society.

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Umm buddy,
Did you read the entire article ?

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"We will do so using peaceful, very Canadian means like economic boycotts, like writing letters to the editors," Naheem Siddiqi of the Canadian Muslim Civil Liberties Association said Saturday.

While parts of the world have experienced violent protests in response to the cartoons, reaction in Toronto has been limited to product boycotts and stern condemnations.

The Islamic Supreme Council of Canada has called on Denmark to apologize to all Muslims while the Canadian Arab Federation called the cartoons hateful propaganda.

"We definitely do not believe in the violence we have seen in some parts of the world," Siddiqi said.
They appear to be doing it rationally and reasonably. Why are you attacking them for doing it right ?
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Yeah, just as the Danes and Canadians are trying solve the Hans Island issue via peaceful talks, then religious people want to create a new fire between these two nations.

But Danes are taking notes on who is doing what, and I´m certain that they will see thru the bullshit from these people
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They appear to be doing it rationally and reasonably. Why are you attacking them for doing it right ?
NEWSFLASH!!!

Why should the danish goverment make an apology for something a private newspapper did?

You do realise that DANISH muslims have NO PROBLEM with the dansih goverment about this issue?



MUSLIMS need to WAKE UP and stop their endless suffering bullshit...

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Umm buddy,
Did you read the entire article ?



They appear to be doing it rationally and reasonably. Why are you attacking them for doing it right ?
Umm, buddy...yes, I read the entire article...as well as watched the segment on last night's newscast.

Did you entirely read what I wrote?

Peacefully, rationally or reasonable. Doesn't matter. Its still involving our country. How long before it escalates further here in Canada? How long before cops will have to get involved? How long before they start blocking traffic and city streets in protest marches - preventing others from going about their daily activities and lives?
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Umm, buddy...yes, I read the entire article...as well as watched the segment on last night's newscast.

Did you entirely read what I wrote?

Peacefully, rationally or reasonable. Doesn't matter. Its still involving our country. How long before it escalates further here in Canada? How long before cops will have to get involved? How long before they start blocking traffic and city streets in protest marches - preventing others from going about their daily activities and lives?
Buddy,
You can't prosecute for something they MIGHT do. Start doing that and you might as well take our rights and flush them down a toilet.

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NEWSFLASH!!!

Why should the danish goverment make an apology for something a private newspapper did?

You do realise that DANISH muslims have NO PROBLEM with the dansih goverment about this issue?

MUSLIMS need to WAKE UP and stop their endless suffering bullshit...
I do Not give a rat's ass about the Danish goverment or the Muslims.

What I do give a shit about is peace and everyone's right to say what they feel.

As long as the Muslims protest peacefully...
I have no problem with them.
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You can't prosecute for something they MIGHT do. Start doing that and you might as well take our rights and flush them down a toilet.
Buddy...who said anything about "prosecute"?

While we're talking about rights here - what about the rights of others to go about their lives without being infered with by others?

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I do Not give a rat's ass about the Danish goverment or the Muslims.

What I do give a shit about is peace and everyone's right to say what they feel.

As long as the Muslims protest peacefully...
I have no problem with them.
Keywords - "As long as..."

Let's revisit this again if/when things escalate further...and see where you stand then. Until then, I'm willing to wager this is only the proverbial crack-in-the-dam.

My intention was to ask WHY they feel the need to bring this to our shores, not to debate whether they have the legal right to protest. I stated that in my first post.

You must excuse me now - I have a sudden inexplicable urge to go buy some Danish cookies.
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I do Not give a rat's ass about the Danish goverment or the Muslims.
Somehow I think this what the majority of muslims think world wide... they do not care about the danish muslims who have lost years of goodwill, the many innocent companies owned by danes and muslims that are sending people home due to the boycott... The only thing these worrid muslims are thinking about is their own problems, and how to twist 12 CARTOONS from a small local privat newspaper into a political agenda against the entire western world and our freedom!

Its sickining, and if there really is an Allah, then I´m sure he is pissed at how his followers are attacking and boycotting the innocent.
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Buddy...who said anything about "prosecute"?

While we're talking about rights here - what about the rights of others to go about their lives without being infered with by others?
Ummm

How is muslims not purchasing Danish products currently interferring with you life?

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Keywords - "As long as..."

Let's revisit this again if/when things escalate further...and see where you stand then. Until then, I'm willing to wager this is only the proverbial crack-in-the-dam.

My intention was to ask WHY they feel the need to bring this to our shores, not to debate whether they have the legal right to protest. I stated that in my first post.

You must excuse me now - I have a sudden inexplicable urge to go buy some Danish cookies.
IF... IF... IF... IF... IF...

IF you feel the need to place a bet. I'm sure there are some odds makers in Las Vegas willing to take bet.

And for the record....
I support your right to show support for Denmark by buying their cookies.

But I also support Canadian muslims right to show support for other muslims in the world.

As long as it's done peacefully...
I don't see a problem.
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Somehow I think this what the majority of muslims think world wide... they do not care about the danish muslims who have lost years of goodwill, the many innocent companies owned by danes and muslims that are sending people home due to the boycott... The only thing these worrid muslims are thinking about is their own problems, and how to twist 12 CARTOONS from a small local privat newspaper into a political agenda against the entire western world and our freedom!

Its sickining, and if there really is an Allah, then I´m sure he is pissed at how his followers are attacking and boycotting the innocent.
Your newspaper was within it's rights to print the cartoons.

They are within their rights to not purchase Danish products.

And you know what....

If you are sooooo pissed off at the Muslims...
Can you explain to me why you are soooo eager to take their money.

Because peronally speaking...
When I don't like someone, I tell them to shove their money up their ass. I don't do business with people I hate.
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As long as it's done peacefully...
I don't see a problem.
Like I said earlier...we'll revisit this.
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Can you explain to me why you are soooo eager to take their money.
Oh the irony... You think this is about money? You really think that Denmark and Danes are willing to sell their freedom? Is the mindset of the muslims not able to graps the concepts about justice (only hurt the guilty, but leave the innocent alone) and freedom. These are not for sale in Denmark or any other scandinavian nation!
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Like I said earlier...we'll revisit this.
And I'll condem it IF it does occur.

You do NOT arrest a man before they commit a crime.

Start doing that....
And we become just as bad as some of these dictatorships and police states in the world.
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Oh the irony... You think this is about money? You really think that Denmark and Danes are willing to sell their freedom? Is the mindset of the muslims not able to graps the concepts about justice (only hurt the guilty, but leave the innocent alone) and freedom. These are not for sale in Denmark or any other scandinavian nation!
People were bitching before they became violent.

By principles of Freedom of Speech/Expression....
They were within their rights to NOT buy Danish products. It's their money and they can whatever the hell they want with it.

As for your last comment...
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they do not care about the danish muslims who have lost years of goodwill, the many innocent companies owned by danes and muslims that are sending people home due to the boycott...
Let's do some math here...

1) Newspaper must sell subscriptions and advertising space to make money.

2) Newspaper is NOT distributed in the middle east. (That's an assumption on my part.)

3) Stop buying the products and the companies loose money.

4) The companies that advertise don't have the revenue to advertise as much, so they cut their budget. **Newspaper loses money** Boycott works.

5) Newspaper gets a reputation for being shit disturbers. Therefore less people want to do business with it. ***Newspaper loses money again*** Boycott works again.

6) People get laid off or sacked from their jobs. They need to pay their bills and don't have a stable income. So they cancel their subscriptions. **Newspaper loses yet again*** Boycott is hitting it hard.

Guess what ????
Welcome to the FREE WORLD and CAPTIALISM !!!!! It's the way it works !!!

As long as there is NO VIOLENCE !!! Anyone and Everyone can protest and boycott their little hearts out.
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And I'll condem it IF it does occur.

You do NOT arrest a man before they commit a crime.

Start doing that....
And we become just as bad as some of these dictatorships and police states in the world.
Again, you are spinning this in to an issue of whether its legal or illegal to protest.

And again...I point out that was not the focus of my initial post.

The first post asked the question WHY do they feel the need to involve Canada in a matter that originated thousands of miles away in an entirely different country - that has nothing to do with us...other than the fact some share the same religion.

If these extremist muslim protestors feel so strongly - they're perfectly welcome to hop on a plane, fly over there...and protest to their hearts content. Despite the fact I think this whole issue is sheer nonsense and lunacy to begin with - let them go deal with the issue where it originated.

The utter stupidity of protesting against a nation based on a few simple cartoons published by a privately-owned newspaper is purely indicative of the mindset of these people. Based on the stupidity factor alone, we'll wait and see how long before these 'peaceful protests' and whatnot turn ugly here in Canada.

I'm sure time will bear this out.
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Again, you are spinning this in to an issue of whether its legal or illegal to protest.

And again...I point out that was not the focus of my initial post.

The first post asked the question WHY do they feel the need to involve Canada in a matter that originated thousands of miles away in an entirely different country - that has nothing to do with us...other than the fact some share the same religion.
No you are missing the point.

1) No where in a Free society is it a requirement to have a GOOD reason to protest or boycott anything. People do it all the time and often for really pathetic and stupid ones.

2) It's not that SOME of the muslims share the same religion. MUSLIM/ISLAM IS THE RELIGION.

The newspaper printed something that insulted the Islamic faith. Thefore they inulted ALL OF THE MUSLIMS ! There are NO borders involved in this.

If you find a Muslim in antartica, then they were insulted.
Thats the bitch about insulting a relgion instead of a nation or culture.

3) I'm not spinning nothing. Just telling it like it is.
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The real kicker is that the first cartoon appeared in September.
It's just a rallying point for violent protest.

Someone on one of this mornings political talk shows said the violent protesters were like a wacky neighbor. Who, if you look at them funny, might come after you with a shotgun.
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Welcome to the FREE WORLD and CAPTIALISM !!!!! It's the way it works !!!
You have NO idea about Denmark and Danes. Also your "boycott math" is laughable.

But if you really want to make this is an issue about money, since it looks like its the only concept muslims can understand, then picture this...

- Less aid from the EU (not only Denmark) to the middle east
- Major EU investments in energy production to lower world wide energy prices, which will hurt the only major export muslim countries have - OIL
- Total seperation of religion and state
- Overflow of western culture into the middle east sent from Europe.

The list goes on... and think about it - The European Union has the largest economy in the world, and with the US who is also looking to be less depend on muslims, then I foresee years of economic problems for the average muslim in the middel east. Talk about biting the hand who feed them...

But again its NOT about money, but sure the western world can play that game also - its not reserved to angry muslims...
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What is actually more pathetic is the appeasment attitude of some of your citizens in the removal of Danish products.

What's worse, a cartoon?...... or burning, rioting and violence in the streets.
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I'm so fucking tired of this shit. Today I heard on the radio that Iran threaten not to do any business with countries that published the pictures.
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You have NO idea about Denmark and Danes. Also your "boycott math" is laughable.

But if you really want to make this is an issue about money, since it looks like its the only concept muslims can understand, then picture this...

- Less aid from the EU (not only Denmark) to the middle east
- Major EU investments in energy production to lower world wide energy prices, which will hurt the only major export muslim countries have - OIL
- Total seperation of religion and state
- Overflow of western culture into the middle east sent from Europe.

The list goes on... and think about it - The European Union has the largest economy in the world, and with the US who is also looking to be less depend on muslims, then I foresee years of economic problems for the average muslim in the middel east. Talk about biting the hand who feed them...

But again its NOT about money, but sure the western world can play that game also - its not reserved to angry muslims...

And I agree completely!!!!
I believe in capitalism and the west SHOULD respond just as you said. It''s peaceful and it works. IE: Put the guns down!

See I'm not on any side!
I want is a peaceful protest. And an end to the problems of human society. Things that include racism, ignorance, poverty and war.
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I'm so fucking tired of this shit. Today I heard on the radio that Iran threaten not to do any business with countries that published the pictures.

Is that not there right? The countries what publish have the right to publish and the Iranians have a right to react. You cant have it both ways
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And I agree completely!!!!
I believe in capitalism and the west SHOULD respond just as you said. It''s peaceful and it works. IE: Put the guns down!

See I'm not on any side!
I want is a peaceful protest. And an end to the problems of human society. Things that include racism, ignorance, poverty and war.
You're doing a very good job of surrounding yourself in a hippy world.. 60's are long over, my friend, and here's a newsflash: there will always be wars as long as human mind is not controlled via genetics.
Whether you like it or not, people are different, races are different, and we are not equal. Scandinavians as a whole differ from jews, jews differ from muslims, and muslims differ from native indians.

People from different cultures have different mindsets. Middle eastern mindset doesn't fit into European society, and it looks like it's generally stronger than native European one. You will soon get your wish of having a peaceful Muslim republic of Europe.

For now, lemme have some of what you're smoking, I wanna go to a peaceful lalaland as well.
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You're doing a very good job of surrounding yourself in a hippy world.. 60's are long over, my friend, and here's a newsflash: there will always be wars as long as human mind is not controlled via genetics.
Whether you like it or not, people are different, races are different, and we are not equal. Scandinavians as a whole differ from jews, jews differ from muslims, and muslims differ from native indians.

People from different cultures have different mindsets. Middle eastern mindset doesn't fit into European society, and it looks like it's generally stronger than native European one. You will soon get your wish of having a peaceful Muslim republic of Europe.

For now, lemme have some of what you're smoking, I wanna go to a peaceful lalaland as well.
Well you know what ???

I want to thank you guys for the debate and dialog today. Unfortunately I'm suffering from the flu and my aunt flow decided to visit me at the same time. Add to that I'm home alone and therefore without anyone else to bitch at.

Hopefully it didn't piss off anyone too much.

Some interesting points and comments were made. It probably won't make any difference in this world but at least it proves that on GFY, pornographers are more than just smut peddlers.

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I'm so fucking tired of this shit. Today I heard on the radio that Iran threaten not to do any business with countries that published the pictures.

So they are removing the internet and boycotting it?
The cartoons are on millions of servers by now.

LOL!

Fucken morons.
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Sure...if you're explorin' flooded abandonments.

Now we need a visual of Quantum-x explorin' with his goldfish, bowl and miner's lamp.
They are huge drainers over in Oz. Cave Clan and all those guys. If the fish dies, they probably shouldn't be wading through hip deep storm drains.

Are you an explorer also?
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Well you know what ???

I want to thank you guys for the debate and dialog today. Unfortunately I'm suffering from the flu and my aunt flow decided to visit me at the same time. Add to that I'm home alone and therefore without anyone else to bitch at.

Hopefully it didn't piss off anyone too much.

Some interesting points and comments were made. It probably won't make any difference in this world but at least it proves that on GFY, pornographers are more than just smut peddlers.

Well said...and although we fundamentally disagree on the points, your input and views are appreciated and make good civilized discussions.

Work on gettin' over that flu.
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How is muslims not purchasing Danish products currently interferring with you life?
The only good food product to come out of Denmark is their bacon anyway and i didnt think Muslims could eat pork anyway?

Whats the point in boycotting something if they never used it to begin with? LOL

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Wherever you see a boycott of Danish or other European products, you in turn boycott that shop, and stop buying anything from them, it's as easy as that ...
If they mix biz with religion or politics, let them get burnt...
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They are huge drainers over in Oz. Cave Clan and all those guys. If the fish dies, they probably shouldn't be wading through hip deep storm drains.

Are you an explorer also?
Yep.

I was moderator for a while over on UER.ca and personally know a lot of the guys from there, including the board founder AvatarX. At one time I had among the highest database location entries of any member, and several thousand of my original images up there.

Actually, one of your active explorers makes his way over to Canada occasionally and gets together with the guys over on UER - goes by the nick Panic! Dunno if you know of him...but he's a drainer as well.
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Prices of dairy products rise
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Dis...6020564045.xml

Some shoppers however claimed that ghee or clarified butter ? a popular ingredient in recipes of the Indian subcontinent ? was in short supply after a high-demand brand, Lurpak from Denmark, went off shelves


Oh the irony. Now dairy products are in short supply and the prices are increasing
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and this boycott is really not affecting Danish exports at all.
The entire Middle-East region only counts for 1% of the total exports! That's a fact
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Some shoppers however claimed that ghee or clarified butter hahaha8212; a popular ingredient in recipes of the Indian subcontinent hahaha8212; was in short supply after a high-demand brand, Lurpak from Denmark, went off shelves


Oh the irony. Now dairy products are in short supply and the prices are increasing
How long before Haliburton buys out Danish dairy producers?
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Wherever you see a boycott of Danish or other European products, you in turn boycott that shop, and stop buying anything from them, it's as easy as that ...
If they mix biz with religion or politics, let them get burnt...
100% Right!!
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NEWSFLASH!!!

Why should the danish goverment make an apology for something a private newspapper did?

You do realise that DANISH muslims have NO PROBLEM with the dansih goverment about this issue?



MUSLIMS need to WAKE UP and stop their endless suffering bullshit...

coz govt of danish have a resposible with all his teritory but they can't assure about freedom of media. they can only do is to say sorry if someone on his country do a wrong moves.
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Well you know what ???

I want to thank you guys for the debate and dialog today. Unfortunately I'm suffering from the flu and my aunt flow decided to visit me at the same time. Add to that I'm home alone and therefore without anyone else to bitch at.

Hopefully it didn't piss off anyone too much.

Some interesting points and comments were made. It probably won't make any difference in this world but at least it proves that on GFY, pornographers are more than just smut peddlers.

Who let the help in?
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coz govt of danish have a resposible with all his teritory but they can't assure about freedom of media. they can only do is to say sorry if someone on his country do a wrong moves.
The private owned newspapper have done nothing illegal - Denmark is a DEMOCRACY with FREEDOM OF SPEECH... There are blasphemy laws, but they were NOT broken. There is nothing for the goverment to be sorry about.
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Alien, your such a fucktard.

I hope theres somebody out there posting pictures of your dead loved ones, have some respect.
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