For some reason this thread reminds me of some mainstream program owners

Ahahahah wtf is an inhouse sale a type-in? Where the fuck do you think those came from? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You know, really I don't have many TGP webmasters, I do have a few niched big ones, but that's about it. Hosted galleries, I know exactly how many hits that end up from my domains through links, 404's or url removes. It's not much, I only have like 75 galleries or some crap like that.

And we don't allow new review sites to review us. Getting close to a year a year now.

An inhosue sale is a sale produced from my own traffic sources, not a type-in. Webmasters produce about 10% type-ins to paysites, then out of that 10% we have to conver them. Webmaster type-in traffic is a joke.

Replace TGP with ANY traffic source affiliates use to push you. Bottom line is a HUGE number of sales come from type-ins, returning customers, etc etc etc that originated from affiliates but end up 100% in your pocket. Sad part is you probably know this in the back of your mind but you'd rather yell how your "in-house" traffic is growing and growing but give no credit to affiliates that caused this. Instead you find a reason to dislike how they sent you traffic.

Aye a few mainstream programs have started to pop up things in the terms about keyword targeting in the se's. I wonder why... It's going to be come a big thing, I feel, in the years to come.

dude, busty amateur boobs is at 3k in overture and bustyamateurboobs at 800...thats like 1 sale a day. What are you talking about?

just close the program down if you dont want anyone to review your site or send you traffic with "your" keywords.

Likewise. Apparently you are confused because i am not the only one that thinks the same. Im glad you have traffic and really dont need to know you personally. :thumbsup

Another person that doesn't know who I am. Please go away. I have given up more real stat info, than anyone here, other than maybe Shap.

I know EXACTLY how many type-ins webmasters produce. And if you look my site over you will see every 404, every inbound hosted gallery, warning page, everything I have is linked up to make sure the return visit, bookmark, etc, all go back to the webmaster.

I have my own traffic. I send to a lot of programs on this board. Hell, MOST nats programs get traffic from me or have.

If you really think this close your affiliate program. Hell you rode the affiliates backs to where you are now, close down and you'll still have a nice income bigger than you did 3 years ago. Of course you could also look hard at the numbers and how your non referral sales magically went up as soon as you got some real affiliates. Do a little math and you'll see how many extra signups you got over the last few years and you'll also see that it's hand over fist more than you've paid to people "stealing" your keywords. Of course, you'd never come admit this here so you'll just shut up and continue raping the people that helped make you who you are.

But hey, at least you'd shut up. :thumbsup

I know exactly who you are, I know you're rich and I've been told by many people I respect that you are one smart motherfucker. That's why on this subject I'm at a loss as to how you could possibly be so stupid.

so can you tell me how you branded a generic keyword like "busty amateur boobs" ?

Can you honestly say those are brandable words? MILF Hunter. Brandable. MILF porn. Not brandable. Busty Amateur Boob Fiends. Brandable. Busty Amateur Boobs. Not brandable. WED Cell Phone. Brandable. Cell Phone. Not brandable.

You have no non generic keywords in your name. "busty" "amateur" and "boobs" are widely searched kewords. Notice how the big names in the industry arent hardcoresex.com but rather bangbros.com or milfhunter.com etc. They use names that would turn up more or less nothing other than their site. If you can search for your site name on google and not find nearly every result leading to your site, it isn't branded.

I hope you can see the difference between branding and having a generic term.

Amazing how some people are so full of themselves. You are not one to run an affiliate program as you are so clueless on providing service to webmasters. You are better off shutting off your affiliate program.

you tellin people.. that they dont know WHO YOU ARE!!.. doesnt make you any bigger, smarter or better. The truth here is that you dont know who a lot of other people here are.

Stop assuming that you are better when in all honesty you are nobody to most people.

Most of the return results for "busty amateur boobs" are ads for my sites, just like if you type in "milf hunter". Milf hunter is kinda a bad example because of it's size, but overall the results are almost the same.

If I target a paysite and the name in the search engines then I send that traffic to that paysite from a detailed humerous review. Usually works

I'm not saying I'm bigger, smarter or better. I don't care if someone thinks I'm a somebody. If so, neat. You were trying to tell me what my program does and doesn't do, and how my traffic works, when you have no idea.

Now, the 1 or 2 people that do know me, know I have traffic. That was my point.

6/10 on page one dont promote your site site, #1 being one of them...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Sea rch

ouch, I can see why this is a painful issue for you...

man, time to get the whip out and get some of your people working on getting your domain back up to the Organic top there...

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self contradiction is a motherfucker!

Search the keyword "public invasion" Bang Bros launched it last week yet all results promote it. It's because its a brandable term that you wont find on many other sites that are relevant.

The problem with your site is that it doesnt have a truely unique name.

not even 1 sale a day

Doc..... I'm not going to give you too much shit.. because I somewhat understand where you are coming from. I have the same problem with a site on yahoo because of their damn directory listings. So I feel a little of what you are going through.

However you can't expect to sit around and just get your rankings with no work. If your affiliates work harder than you, they will out rank you.. plane and simple.

Your waning page is a PR1 I mean seriously you can't expect to rank with a pr 1. Top it off with you only have "BustyAmateurBoobs" on your index in "one" spot on the text and then in the title. Damn man the first rule of thumb is to work your keywords in as much as you can even on the warnng pages.

On your tour.. "Our specialized team of Big Boob Hunters in bold but "Busty Amateur Boobs" is standard text. Which leads to another issue.. You are complaining about people targeting your domain keywords, yet you turn around and do the same thing to your compitition.

Looking at the text Big Boob Hunters which is someone elses site.. http://www.BigBoobHunters.com So if you expect Busty Amateur Boobs to be your keywords, should Big Boob Hunters be theirs?

Complaining will get you no where, you need to do the same thing us affiliates do.. We work at getting our positions, so dont expect to keep yours with out working as well.

That's not a really good search query at all ;) Try "ideal boobs" :winkwink: But to be serous, I have very good sales from various review sites. So why shouldn't I use such an opportunity to sell my paysites?

lets say its a good paysite and therefore 1 sale a day :)

Totem Cash posted all their stats as well and still do.

Dvd's and the paysites, came out at the same time.. contradict want?
We sold other DVD's too, we have for years, branded our urls in the DVD's once we opened the sites. Then we built our own traffic to the sites. Rather simple to understand.

na I don't push my warning page, if you hit the /01/ folder the main tour, it has a ranking. I don't have any hard links to the warning page. I also work the SE's, no worries :) It just blows to fight for your own domain name keywords. Kinda the point everyone missed. Even more so on my domains, when I built the branding before the webmasters.





And yes people, my domain name is so low on overture that I only get one sale a day, if that, from se's. Idots.

Not posted stats, told people how stats work, information on stats info so people can learn how crap works better. Trial to converts, cb ratios, retention, all that goodies, pps vs revshare, all kinds of crap. Not like screenshots and stuff :)

http://totemcash.com/free/top100.php

http://totemcash.com/free/figures.php

I wish all sponsors would be more open with things like that. And I do appreciate that you also have also shared useful info like this. In the long run helps both parties out and if not anything motivates affiliates to do more ...

I'm not talking about "posted screenshot snaps" or the top 100. I'm talking about stat information.

Like, the industry average trial to convert, without upgrades is 20%. That kind of stat info :)

I have posted my stats a few times, not often. Lots of people ask though and I tell them, and have shown a few. If I know you of course.

Welp gota head out for a few hours, open your minds people, I'm not trying to say kill them all, but they do have good sides and bad sides. It has nothing to do with my pr, my se hits, any of the extra bs you people bring up.

Fact is, they take traffic I once had on my own, which really is fine. But what sucks fucking ass is now I have to pay them, on traffic they didn't build. They just get lucky, using my domain name as a keyword, and get free money because of it. Anyone can say Ihahaha8217;m wrong, but the fact is, it blows ass to pay someone else on your own branding.

I see it both ways, just sucks to fight for domain name keywords, that didnhahaha8217;t have much if any searches before I started up. I owned all the listings even with my standard webmasters, but review sites added me and got free listings, damn good ones at that. And that TGP that is #1, he will die off soon enough, sometimes TGPhahaha8217;s popup and take a few of the top spots for us all. BTW, I do own more than one site, with different keywords, even sites not in EGC.

Someone has to start up some BS around here, ithahaha8217;s been getting boring.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;)

trust me it's not luck.

I really have no idea if you are a webmaster of mine, not in my ICQ list so kinda hard to keep up with everyone.

However, if you quit sending to a program because they had the balls to stand up and speak their minds about something, then... well I guess you know.

It's about the same thing if we killed webmasters because didn't like what they said about some things. Hell, we would all be fucked.

ok, back to my break :)

actually considering you dont have the spot, im sure you dont get any sales off that term on the se's.

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