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Abyss_Vee 01-25-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Wrong about what? That I don't like it? That they DO take se traffic I once had? What am I wrong about, I missed that part.

Times are changing... The way people are promoting sites are changing.. if you havent seen the shift then you need to look around a bit more. im not talking shit.. im just shocked at what you are stating

Crypt 01-25-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Sorry Crypt, if those program want to post they can. I wouldn't never out another owner like that. If they want to step up and say they agree, then great. If not, oh well.

Well, the way this thread turned , i dont think one will agree with you today on your point hehe

TheDoc 01-25-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
it still has value, if even ccbill link codes have


Yeah, but not much really. Look at some of the, not monster programs, but big ones.. They don't have the best listings either. The bigger the site of course the better top listing they do get for domain name keywords, but it really isn't that big of a benefit.

3 years running EGC, and webmasters haven't really pushed any rankings or pr rankings up. I had a 3/4 before webmasters, and I have a 3/4 with webmasters. Some of my own pages have much better listings, better than the paysites, and they have way less links to them.

baddog 01-25-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
i usually like all your posts..but not this one..lol


Why not, it has to be the funniest one I can remember reading.

Abyss_Vee 01-25-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Why not, it has to be the funniest one I can remember reading.

indeeeed

TheDoc 01-25-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crypt
Well, the way this thread turned , i dont think one will agree with you today on your point hehe

I really careless if any agrees. A few posting own review sites so of course they don't like the idea, they really seem to hate the idea.

It's not like I'm running out and telling them to quit, I have a different game plan for active review sites that already push us. I'm not going to kill their accounts, have anyone EVER heard of me doing that? No..

Really only two ways to get kicked from my program. Fraud and one other way, which I have only had to happen once.

beemk 01-25-2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Wrong about what? That I don't like it? That they DO take se traffic I once had? What am I wrong about, I missed that part.

what if i submit a gallery for you and instead of clicking my code they type the site name into google and click your site without a code? i dont see how the traffic is automatically yours. and what if i once had the #1 spot on google and you took it, that doesnt mean it still belongs to me.

andrej_NDC 01-25-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Yeah, but not much really. Look at some of the, not monster programs, but big ones.. They don't have the best listings either. The bigger the site of course the better top listing they do get for domain name keywords, but it really isn't that big of a benefit.

its strong enough to make my paysites PR4-5 and have top listings...

TheDoc 01-25-2006 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk
what if i submit a gallery for you and instead of clicking my code they type the site name into google and click your site without a code? i dont see how the traffic is automatically yours. and what if i once had the #1 spot on google and you took it, that doesnt mean it still belongs to me.

Any program, if they don't click the linking code and type in the domain, the site owner is going to get the credit for the sale.

The "traffic is not mine", this is really simple. The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.

Harmon 01-25-2006 02:07 PM

50..............

andrej_NDC 01-25-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Look at some of the, not monster programs, but big ones.. They don't have the best listings either.

Nobody has those listings without any work. Its always the fault of the program. And 99% of all paysites are not SE optimized at all, no matter if small or big programs.

TheDoc 01-25-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
its strong enough to make my paysites PR4-5 and have top listings...

A pr4 isn't nats, open a domain, put 10 links to it, its a pr4. A pr5, isn't from nats. You don't even use nats. You probably have a pr4/5 on most of the domains because your money program is linked up all over, and it HARD LINKS the paysites from the main page of the program.

And CCbill dumps to the front of tour with NO codes attached. Nats doesn't.

Abyss_Vee 01-25-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Any program, if they don't click the linking code and type in the domain, the site owner is going to get the credit for the sale.

The "traffic is not mine", this is really simple. The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.

Correction... The domain BustyAmateurBoobs.com is yours

Trax 01-25-2006 02:10 PM

no offense but you are whining about something you shouldn't be whining about
I could target your sites keywords and send em to another site,
There are so many sites having content fitting to the keyword: busty amateur boobs

there is a sentence I like: Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Just because you suck at SEO doesn't mean people who don't are bad.

Wanna see it done right?
http://www.google.com/search?q=milfhunter

This could be the same for your site name.
just my two cents

andrej_NDC 01-25-2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.

the keywords wouldn't even exist without the traffic and affiliates are sending the traffic, too

Crypt 01-25-2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
I really careless if any agrees. A few posting own review sites so of course they don't like the idea, they really seem to hate the idea.

It's not like I'm running out and telling them to quit, I have a different game plan for active review sites that already push us. I'm not going to kill their accounts, have anyone EVER heard of me doing that? No..

Really only two ways to get kicked from my program. Fraud and one other way, which I have only had to happen once.

haaaaa ok ..... why this then?

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
..... I feel I shouldn?t have to pay for this traffic, traffic that should be mine anyway. Traffic I 100% had before review sites came out.....


Phoenix 01-25-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Any program, if they don't click the linking code and type in the domain, the site owner is going to get the credit for the sale.

The "traffic is not mine", this is really simple. The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.

wtf..how do you figure they are yours?


if you own them then pay for the ranking on google..pay for it..and compete just like everyone else does.


if you dont buy the misspelt domain names and other extensions when you launch a site..that is your own negligence...just be happy the traffic will coem to you instead of to a competitor.

FUCK IT....from now on im buying all misspelt domains and typos and pointing them at sponsors...if they wont buy it to protect themselves ill help them out.

andrej_NDC 01-25-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
A pr4 isn't nats, open a domain, put 10 links to it, its a pr4. A pr5, isn't from nats. You don't even use nats. You probably have a pr4/5 on most of the domains because your money program is linked up all over, and it HARD LINKS the paysites from the main page of the program.

And CCbill dumps to the front of tour with NO codes attached. Nats doesn't.

if its a NATS issue, use your own sites for hard links

andrej_NDC 01-25-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

its even better to have both top listings
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...o m+next+door
:)

beemk 01-25-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Any program, if they don't click the linking code and type in the domain, the site owner is going to get the credit for the sale.

The "traffic is not mine", this is really simple. The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.

they really arent yours, its apparent when looking at google results. i would agree that they should be yours if you were responsible for everyone that searches those keywords. but the reality is that the reason they are searching for the site is because they have seen affiliates promoting the site.

Doctor Dre 01-25-2006 02:14 PM

That's interesting... john was asking for what to improve in a new version of nats ... maybe you should let him know

TheDoc 01-25-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
wtf..how do you figure they are yours?


if you own them then pay for the ranking on google..pay for it..and compete just like everyone else does.


if you dont buy the misspelt domain names and other extensions when you launch a site..that is your own negligence...just be happy the traffic will coem to you instead of to a competitor.

FUCK IT....from now on im buying all misspelt domains and typos and pointing them at sponsors...if they wont buy it to protect themselves ill help them out.

A lot of sponsors will kill the accounts for typo domains. I don't care, I buy up most of mine. But start asking around to the owners, and see if others care.

wedouglas 01-25-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Any program, if they don't click the linking code and type in the domain, the site owner is going to get the credit for the sale.

The "traffic is not mine", this is really simple. The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.


you dont own any keywords. no one owns any.

beemk 01-25-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
A pr4 isn't nats, open a domain, put 10 links to it, its a pr4. A pr5, isn't from nats. You don't even use nats. You probably have a pr4/5 on most of the domains because your money program is linked up all over, and it HARD LINKS the paysites from the main page of the program.

And CCbill dumps to the front of tour with NO codes attached. Nats doesn't.

if you think the affiliates linking to your domain with their nats code doesnt help you out, you dont know very much about seo.

abyss_al 01-25-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Any program, if they don't click the linking code and type in the domain, the site owner is going to get the credit for the sale.

The "traffic is not mine", this is really simple. The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.


actually i own the letter B, so u have to pay me royalties thank you. you just used it six times... so you owe me eleventy billion dollars.

Evil1 01-25-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
The keywords "bustyamateurboobs" and "busty amateur boobs" are mine.

Im really fucking confused right now.. you own search terms?

wedouglas 01-25-2006 02:19 PM

should the guy who owns milf.com be the only result for "milf" ?

andrej_NDC 01-25-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
A lot of sponsors will kill the accounts for typo domains.

I didn't even think to punish affiliates for that. LOL Some got really good domains which get nice traffic and sales, but its not their fault. It was my stupidity and their cleverness to get them. I say, let them enjoy them.

Phoenix 01-25-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
A lot of sponsors will kill the accounts for typo domains. I don't care, I buy up most of mine. But start asking around to the owners, and see if others care.


np at all..can send the sales to someone else...the direct competition


sending away joins that convert is never a good idea:2 cents:

Evil1 01-25-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
A lot of sponsors will kill the accounts for typo domains. I don't care, I buy up most of mine. But start asking around to the owners, and see if others care.

Hahaha, oh well, then the traffic goes to the competition.:1orglaugh

beemk 01-25-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
I didn't even think to punish affiliates for that. LOL Some got really good domains which get nice traffic and sales, but its not their fault. It was my stupidity and their cleverness to get them. I say, let them enjoy them.

yeah really, if you cancel their account some other program with the same niche will very soon be getting the same traffic instead of you.

TheDoc 01-25-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
I didn't even think to punish affiliates for that. LOL Some got really good domains which get nice traffic and sales, but its not their fault. It was my stupidity and their cleverness to get them. I say, let them enjoy them.

We have a webmaster with a bad spelling of EGC, and one of our other sites. I don't mind. Those are possible traffic sources I would have not had anyway. A lot of times if someone did type in a typo domain, and it doesn't come up, they don't try to fix it, they move on. So in my eyes, it's not a bad thing.

However, it really does piss some program owners off. A lot don't care, but a lot do.

TheDoc 01-25-2006 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil1
Hahaha, oh well, then the traffic goes to the competition.:1orglaugh

Misspell domains can't advertise other sites legally.

jimmy-3-way 01-25-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Targeting my domain name keywords, "targeting" which is what review sites do, it's how they get the traffic.. That is what I have a problem with.

And I DAMN WELL KNOW other owners have problems with it too. I have talked to at least 5 they hate review sites and have started to think of ways to kill them from the program. Just wondering who is going to be the first to do it. It?s coming.

This is very interesting we've been dealing with this exact same issue this morning. It is a tough issue to come down on. I mean thses guys are playing the game, so it's hard to fault them for it, but it is annoy as fuck to pay webmasters for traffic we already have.

wedouglas 01-25-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
Misspell domains can't advertise other sites legally.

Maybe in some cases, but bustyamateurboobs isnt exactly branded. that isnt exclusive whatsoever. there is no way in hell you're going to win some case agianst bustyamatureboobs.com. that is a totally generic phrase.

Trax 01-25-2006 02:34 PM

I wanna see you get review sites banned lol
then the exact same traffic will go elsewhere lol

oh... i feel ignored by the way
this ain't good for my ego
:(
:)

wedouglas 01-25-2006 02:35 PM

Keep in mind, that if you come down on review sites and kill acounts of SE people they will just send your traffic elsewhere. you either get %50 the sales they generate or you both get haha because you can sure as hell believe that their spot isnt going away.

bdld 01-25-2006 02:37 PM

you don't own anything, you own a domain name. SE traffic is for those who can get their hands on it. if you want top rankings, become a better marketer.

wargames 01-25-2006 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way
This is very interesting we've been dealing with this exact same issue this morning. It is a tough issue to come down on. I mean thses guys are playing the game, so it's hard to fault them for it, but it is annoy as fuck to pay webmasters for traffic we already have.

What program do you run ? :thumbsup

abyss_al 01-25-2006 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax
oh... i feel ignored by the way
this ain't good for my ego
:(
:)


hi :pimp


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