![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
||||
Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. |
![]() ![]() |
|
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
|
Thread Tools |
![]() |
#1 |
Wall Street Pimp
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 14,345
|
Worse converting sponsor of 2005?????
Minimum of 2k or 3k uniques I think is fair.
Mine is... panchodog at 1:3939 surprised.. great sites and galleries but garbage conversions....
__________________
Tradeking - my online broker | 4.95 a trade | make real $$ |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
2k or 3k uniques is fair to judge a sponsor? are you kidding?
what kind of traffic are you sending?
__________________
I like turtles. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#3 | |
Wall Street Pimp
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 14,345
|
Quote:
__________________
Tradeking - my online broker | 4.95 a trade | make real $$ |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#4 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
Quote:
i've sent 13 uniques and havn't made a sale yet.. they must be shaving!
__________________
I like turtles. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Wall Street Pimp
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 14,345
|
christ....
__________________
Tradeking - my online broker | 4.95 a trade | make real $$ |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#6 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
Quote:
what if you sent 5k uniques and made 4 sales in the last K ? its not enough traffic to come and name them worst converting sponsor ![]()
__________________
I like turtles. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Sick Fuck
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: www
Posts: 9,491
|
1:309
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#8 | |
Wall Street Pimp
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 14,345
|
Quote:
Just getting some convo going ![]() I know, negative convo but business related nonetheless
__________________
Tradeking - my online broker | 4.95 a trade | make real $$ |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Confirmed User
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4,517
|
Summary 43264 30913 88 1 1:30913 $28.00
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 16,116
|
17
165,479 1:9734 not alot, but worst converting. ![]()
__________________
Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars | RadicalCash | KennysPennies | HomegrownCash |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
A freakin' legend!
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA
Posts: 18,975
|
Has anybody made any money with BrainCash?
__________________
Boner Money |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#12 | |
So Fucking What
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Whore Island
Posts: 14,445
|
Quote:
You'd be around 1:2000 if your next hit was a sale. Making Pancho Dog look bad when you didn't send them much traffic isn't really fair. ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,452
|
I don't think that makes them look bad. Most people know it's not enough to make a fair judgement. If that is what his ratio is, then so be it. I doubt he is posting fake stats.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#14 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: mexico
Posts: 1,271
|
Hi,
Whenever your ratios are near 1:1000 you should always contact an affiliate representative to help you understand what the problem could be. We have experience in this and can clear things up, when working one on one with the affiliate. By not contacting a sponsor, you are not allowing us to do our job. We will analyze your account, your traffic, your ad tools, and the way you are promoting us. We will also look at our stats, join form hits, declines, and many other things that will allow us to determine what to do to improve your ratios and sales. We will also request information from you, such as similar sponsor campaigns, etc. to better understand where the problem lies. Last but not least, we will help you with what sites will work best with your traffic, based on our experience. Sometimes, a website just does not take to certain traffic, but by changing the sites you are promoting or limiting them to the top sellers, for example, things change quite a bit. ;) Hit us up anytime. Rico Dog ICQ: 144735794 MSN: [email protected] Skype: panchodog Phone: +1 (213) 596-6965 Mobile: +1 (512) 557-3763 Email: [email protected] Scratch Dog ICQ: 149961842 Phone: +1 (213) 596-6965 Skype: scratch-panchodog Email: [email protected] Izzy Dog ICQ: 244185772 Phone: +1 (213) 596-6965 Skype: izzy_panchodog Email: [email protected] Uno Dog ICQ: 111914 Phone: +1 (213) 596-6965 Email: [email protected]
__________________
![]() °°panchodog.com°° °°100+ paysites!!°° °°katiefey°°°felicityfey°° °°kristinafey°°°& Andi Pink!°° |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
www.pornkings.com
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Florida Baby!!
Posts: 4,645
|
Top notch support at PanchoDog
__________________
[email protected] |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#16 | |
Yes that IS me. Bitch.
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,149
|
Quote:
there's a reason for ratio's like this. It's called saturation. too many fuckers pushing the same shit & it's thinning out the conversions. How can one make a sale to a paysite when the surfer can type in his favorite models name & get a list of millions of sites, then the surfer will just click from site to site & see thousands of pics of his favorite girl. Fuck, everyday the majority of my SE traffic is solo girls models names. Raven Riley, Brooke Skye, Alyssa Doll, Michelle Lynn, Cherry Potter, all the pancho dogs Fey girls.. shit, these surfers arent going to pay for a membership. too many fuckwads building whole sites around one girl. Fucking damn, one day I saw a few sites that had at least 50 galleries of the same model. Now why the fuck would this surfer buy a membership when he can bookmark this FREE blog & come back every few days & get more FREE pics of this girl for FREE!!! too much fucking saturation. Never had I in my life had conversions & sales so fucking poor & bad til I started pushing solo girls. I'm fucking going broke here. Seriously, I need to change what I push & I am beginning to see that any sponsor that shows up on this board is going to have poor conversions. Only solo girl I ever made a sale on was Brooke Skye & that was luck. OH, & I sold a recurring sale to Crystal Kleins site.. that's it, not a single sale to any other solo sites.. Reason I focused on the solo girls was that I like them, liked it better & thought it would work out, but fact is, the money's not there & I don't think it will be there. I think I'm going to start focusing on sites & sponsors that are not being whored or pushed on this board. the less people pushing them, the more sales I'll make. No sense pushing a site if that site is also being pushed by a million other people. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#17 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
I like turtles. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#18 | |
So Fucking What
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Whore Island
Posts: 14,445
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#19 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 7,662
|
sexhit - tried them months ago and will not go back.
__________________
ICQ: 2262.73945 |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#20 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Homeless
Posts: 62,911
|
I have not promoted them,
But I have been sending my 404 to pussycash and have done great, 1 in 3 to 4k.
__________________
PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME! |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#21 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: mexico
Posts: 1,271
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
![]() °°panchodog.com°° °°100+ paysites!!°° °°katiefey°°°felicityfey°° °°kristinafey°°°& Andi Pink!°° |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#22 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
Quote:
well congrats to you, i can't keep a ratio like that on my solo site with the mixes of 404 and exit traffic thrown in there.. but props i guess ![]()
__________________
I like turtles. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#23 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
It doesnt matter.
It doesnt matter. It doesnt matter. If you find a dogshyte converter - they could be shaving thieving bastards or they just have a shit product. Either way - name them - and then FUCK THEM OFF. In the new year I'll start a "NAME THE SHIT SPONSOR.COM" SITE. And we can all post our figures there. Ill promote it heavily for free and then - no matter if they shave or dont convert or WHATEVER - we can FUCK EM OFF. FUCK EM RIGHT OFF ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#24 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
Quote:
.......i'm sorry. what? ![]()
__________________
I like turtles. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#25 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
Just registered - FUCKEMOFF.COM
Lets see which fuck witted sponsor programs get listed there then in the new year. ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#26 | |
RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: NYC Area
Posts: 18,450
|
Quote:
__________________
-uno icq: 111-914 CrazyBabe.com - porn art MojoHost - For all your hosting needs, present and future. Tell them I sent ya! |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#27 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
The new site will fucking act as a "THIS SITE CONVERTS LIKE A LUMP OF DOGSHIT" site warning.
So - as i say "it doesnt matter" if its shaving or a shit product. Get listed on "FUCKEMOFF.COM" and affililates will run a fucking mile. I can do the site for free of course - no bastard needs to pay a fucking penny to list a shit converting site. I'll kick it off with 30,000 or so uniques per month. ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#28 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
I like turtles. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#29 | |
RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: NYC Area
Posts: 18,450
|
![]() Quote:
__________________
-uno icq: 111-914 CrazyBabe.com - porn art MojoHost - For all your hosting needs, present and future. Tell them I sent ya! |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#30 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
In addition - affiliates will prove themselves to be affililates - so that NO SPONSOR SITES CAN POST ANY OF THEIR OWN VIEWS.
Sponsors will not have a say on FUCKEMOFF.COM. Not one say. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#31 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 34,431
|
Quote:
get a bib - you're frothing at the mouth.
__________________
I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#32 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,529
|
Quote:
![]() They're pretty important to me. Lets you know what your traffic is doing after it gets past the gallery. ![]() I wish more sponsors would give better breakdowns. Gallery hits, second page, and join page. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#33 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 946
|
Hegre.. 1:30k
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#34 | |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 18,638
|
Quote:
as in sponsors who ONLY show second page hits and not 1st page hits. obviously it's a good thing to have all the stats you can get ![]()
__________________
I like turtles. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#35 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
Yeah Mutt - lets see how it goes then eh?
![]() Sometimes affiliates offer large amounts of traffic and get nothing back. When that happens - its time for other affiliates to get the word. The aim if the site is the name of the site, as its free it will work - comments like "frothing at the mouth" like yours will simply not exist on fuckemoff.com. Comments like "this site xyz.com converted for me at 1:2000" WILL EXIST. Then - its up to the affiliate masses to make their choice. Youll see. No probs. Easy as pie. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#36 |
Sick Fuck
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: www
Posts: 9,491
|
Sometimes the ratio says more about the affiliate than the program.
There is a big difference between feeding tgp random scripts vs stay updated with hardlinks to new sites and optimize your folio constantly (and no - "hall of fame"-scripted galleries are just popular clicks.. not sales). Anyway, my finger-rules are 8-10 sales before I start looking at the ratio, and if sales only appear with 1:5.000 over a period of 1 week then its bell time. If the sales rep offer assistance, then take it. Its all about partnership, right? |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#37 | |
Service Provider
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,139
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#38 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
Thats cool - a section for sponsors with "SHIT" stats aswell - you know - the ones with stats that tell affiliates nothing - that will scare affiliates away from garbage sponsors too.
I can see it formulating now. Merry xmas shit sponsors - hohoho. ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#39 | |
Yes that IS me. Bitch.
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,149
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#40 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
"You fucking have as well."
Yes - yes I have, and I aint kidding - Ill be extending this site to cover sites on CJ, ShareaSale, etc etc. Walmart may turn up there too. I think theres a few more affiliates out there these days than people realise on here. It should be known - that I am on the side of the AFFILIATE for FAIR TRADE. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#41 | |
Service Provider
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,139
|
Quote:
What type of traffic? (exit, pop, clicked, se etc.). Unless you go into great detail about the type of traffic, whether targeted or not, if from galleries then where listed etc. I think the stats you posted are worthless. ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#42 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
Posts: 4,126
|
Quote:
__________________
SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#43 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
crapconverters.com - also - same fuckin vein.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#44 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
Posts: 4,126
|
Quote:
__________________
SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#45 | |
Confirmed User
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,504
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#46 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: ICQ: 248877409
Posts: 8,597
|
all my sponsors are good
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#47 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 463
|
Ponchodog sites convert great for me.....
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#48 |
Porn Meister
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 16,443
|
Saturation is such an overused excuse..
Look, ever hear of Kleenex? So saturated that sales suck right? No of course not. (no pun intended about saturated kleenex BTW, lol) Seriously, "saturation"=Brand Recognition. Something companies pay billions in advertising to achieve. It's a crutch when used as an excuse for poor conversions I hate to say it. This does not mean to go submit the same pages advertising the same sponsors and sites as everyone and their dog, but dont delude yourself into thinking that because a site is very popular that it's conversions suck, lol. Doesnt make sense at all when you look at it that way, does it? :2cents
__________________
43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar. ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#49 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2004
Location: West Coast, Canada.
Posts: 10,217
|
hmmm... well I'm not ready quite yet to check all my sponsors but I just checked one of them that I knew wasn't all that great but that I don't send a lot of traffic to either.. sent more than 40k hits this year and it's 1:1877. It's a CCBill sponsor if that makes any difference.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#50 |
Too lazy to set a custom title
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 34,431
|
how would you like it if Panchodog had started a thread titled 'Worst Affiliate With Shitty Traffic of 2005????' and you clicked on it and there the answer was - dvd316 - the most useless affiliate of them all.
i know what Andi Pink's conversion ratios are - and they're very good - you are converting 4-5 times worse than the average affiliate - maybe you should be asking yourself why.
__________________
I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |