So I put my Denon AVR-3802 up for sale - GoFuckYourself.com

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:21 AM

on bargainhunter.ca, I chose MY town and out an ad in that section. I get an email concerning my ad. Some person from god knows where overseas is interested and willing to give me $1500 for my home theatre reciever.

Ok, so all sounds good, right? well, I had a bad feeling about this since the first email, but still kept in contact. This person gets a money order from USPS.com for $1500usd, I get the confirmation email that stated that I must send the package and get a tracking #. After that I would have to email them the tracking # so they can make sure that I sent the item in question.

So I check the buyer's infor on the USPS confirmation mail. I see a name, part of the credit card #, address, state etc..

So I decide to investigate further. I check with USA 411 for the name that was on the credit card that was used to buy the money order.. Hmmm.. no one by that name in Rochester, NY (the state that was given on the credit card info) or in the entire USA. ok so maybe this person is unlisted so I do some more research and look for the street that was mentioned (Fria DR in Rochester, NY)> Guess what? there is no street by that name in Rochester or anywhere in NY.

By this point I'm feeling very weary about this whole deal. I'm expected to send something I paid $2600 for without actually having gotten the money for it? Just feel safe that I will recieve my money after that I sent it? Fuck that! So I call USPS to do more research and try to confirm that this money order is legit and not a fake email that LOOKS legit. What does the retarded cu nt at USPS tell me?

"Well, I can't confirm that, but we did get 1000's of calls today concerning money orders so I can say that it's legit"

So I tell the retard "How can you say it's legit when you never asked for my name or the name of the person that made this money order? How can you just tell me that it's legit without having any info?"

So she says "all I can say is that it's real"

I say "ok, whatever" and hang up.

The buyer emails me back with the shipping documents and tells me "print 3 copies, go to your nearest fedex and ship it"

He continues by saying "I want this shipped by tomorrow"

Well, sorry to say, but I am not shipping a damn thing without knowing full fucking well that I will get my $1500. I don't trust people and I sure as hell am not gonna trust him or her.

I want to sell this thing so I could upgrade, but I sure as hell am not going to just give it away. This isn't some crappy Citizens equipment and I worked hard for it.

Not to mention that the name on the credit card is not even the same as the buyer's name. Hell, not even the same damn place. I gave this person my phone # to call me to confirm everything, but they never called so that raised another red flag.

Anyone wanna buy it? $1400 and it's your. It's like bran new (I baby my electronics lol)

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:27 AM

if this person thinks that I'm an idiot that will just ship this item out without getting any money they better think again. I'm not about to get scammed.

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:32 AM

would help if the person's name on the credit card would actually exist and was the same name and address as the actual buyer. Of course, the buyer's address is sure as hell not from the USA. like wtf is

BJ, FLCH, estate shagari
Akinogun b/stop, Ipaja
Lagos,
NG

the Shemp · 01-23-2006, 02:34 AM

run the shipping adress in a search engine and see if its a mailbox rental place.

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:34 AM

hmm.. Nigeria? fuck that shit

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

run the shipping adress in a search engine and see if its a mailbox rental place.

that's what I'm doing right now. So far i know it's in nigeria and that alone makes me feel better that I actually researched things before I shipped anything out

the Shemp · 01-23-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

that's what I'm doing right now. So far i know it's in nigeria and that alone makes me feel better that I actually researched things before I shipped anything out

well, i wouldnt ship it..how did he buy a USPS money order in Nigeria, or am i confused?

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:44 AM

I mean why in the hell would a person from overseas go to bargainhunter.ca which is obviously Canadian then go to the Sudbury, Ontario section of the site (a small town) and buy something like this? Right there I see this as a scam and I didn't feel right about it right from that point.

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

well, i wouldnt ship it..how did he buy a USPS money order in Nigeria, or am i confused?

I won't be shipping it. I'm not that crazy.. How did he/she buy a money order? well, from what I see on the "confirmation email" from USPS it was bought using a credit card. The address of the card holder was in the states.. on frias DR in rochester, NY. I did a search for that street and it does not exist..Not in rochester, not in any other state. Even did a search for the person's name and there is noone by that name in rochester or anywhere in the USA.

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:51 AM

this is what was on the confirmation email at the bottom.

Order Status:

Auction Payments Order Available

AVAILABLE
Order Placed

01-20-2006
Order Status

postal Order Available
Paypal Order Approved

postal Order Confirmed
Billing Information:

Status:

Processed successfully
Card Type

MasterCard
Card Number
5***************

Exp. Date
7/2009

Name on Card
Dianna Weygnand

Street Address
100 FRIAS DR

City, State, Zip
ROCHESTER,NY,14262

Country
USA

Services Purchased:

ItemAmount
$1500.00

Shipping Fee
$00.00

Total Amount posted to card
$1500.00

Item Unit
1 Unit

Purchased Item Information:

Auction site
Bargainhunter.ca

Phone Number

-------------------
Item description

Denon AVR-3802

Seller Information:

Name
Alain Lalonde

Email Address of the seller
[email protected]

Address
********* (removed by me)

city,zip code
*********** (removed by me)
State
ON

country
Canada

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:52 AM

and it sure wasn't an auction site

the Shemp · 01-23-2006, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie

I won't be shipping it. I'm not that crazy.. How did he/she buy a money order? well, from what I see on the "confirmation email" from USPS it was bought using a credit card. The address of the card holder was in the states.. on frias DR in rochester, NY. I did a search for that street and it does not exist..Not in rochester, not in any other state. Even did a search for the person's name and there is noone by that name in rochester or anywhere in the USA.

its a scam, bro
using generated CC numbers to buy money orders, then using the money orders to buy product and have it shipped offshore..if you would have had your own merchant account, they would have skipped the money order step..then you would have got a charge back about 30-60 days later..

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 02:58 AM

the actual person who would recieve this package is named Olumide Cerah..

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

its a scam, bro
using generated CC numbers to buy money orders, then using the money orders to buy product and have it shipped offshore..if you would have had your own merchant account, they would have skipped the money order step..then you would have got a charge back about 30-60 days later..

this is why I did not trust this from the start. Good thing I'm not an idiot that just shipped the item out without investigating first.

I paid $2600 for this thing and I sure as hell am not going to let some scammer steal it from me.

the Shemp · 01-23-2006, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie

this is why I did not trust this from the start. Good thing I'm not an idiot that just shipped the item out without investigating first.

I paid $2600 for this thing and I sure as hell am not going to let some scammer steal it from me.

i ran that 14262 zip and its not in the USPS database

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 03:01 AM

I'm still going to sell this, but not to this fucker or anyone else trying to scam me.

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

i ran that 14262 zip and its not in the USPS database

then that's more proof that this was a scam.

DutchTeenCash · 01-23-2006, 03:04 AM

Lagos lol not in a million years Id say

Ive never shipped anything to Middle Africa/Indonesia/Russia and some other countries that have a 99.9% fraud rate on check cards etc

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

Lagos lol not in a million years Id say

Ive never shipped anything to Middle Africa/Indonesia/Russia and some other countries that have a 99.9% fraud rate on check cards etc

this is why I did not ship anything. I wanted to do some research since I got a bad feeling about this right from the start. This fucker will not be getting any free shit from me.

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 03:12 AM

I need to find an HONEST buyer. Damn these scamming fucks.

DraX · 01-23-2006, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie

on bargainhunter.ca, I chose MY town and out an ad in that section. I get an email concerning my ad. Some person from god knows where overseas is interested and willing to give me $1500 for my home theatre reciever.

Ok, so all sounds good, right? well, I had a bad feeling about this since the first email, but still kept in contact. This person gets a money order from USPS.com for $1500usd, I get the confirmation email that stated that I must send the package and get a tracking #. After that I would have to email them the tracking # so they can make sure that I sent the item in question.

So I check the buyer's infor on the USPS confirmation mail. I see a name, part of the credit card #, address, state etc..

So I decide to investigate further. I check with USA 411 for the name that was on the credit card that was used to buy the money order.. Hmmm.. no one by that name in Rochester, NY (the state that was given on the credit card info) or in the entire USA. ok so maybe this person is unlisted so I do some more research and look for the street that was mentioned (Fria DR in Rochester, NY)> Guess what? there is no street by that name in Rochester or anywhere in NY.

By this point I'm feeling very weary about this whole deal. I'm expected to send something I paid $2600 for without actually having gotten the money for it? Just feel safe that I will recieve my money after that I sent it? Fuck that! So I call USPS to do more research and try to confirm that this money order is legit and not a fake email that LOOKS legit. What does the retarded cu nt at USPS tell me?

"Well, I can't confirm that, but we did get 1000's of calls today concerning money orders so I can say that it's legit"

So I tell the retard "How can you say it's legit when you never asked for my name or the name of the person that made this money order? How can you just tell me that it's legit without having any info?"

So she says "all I can say is that it's real"

I say "ok, whatever" and hang up.

The buyer emails me back with the shipping documents and tells me "print 3 copies, go to your nearest fedex and ship it"

He continues by saying "I want this shipped by tomorrow"

Well, sorry to say, but I am not shipping a damn thing without knowing full fucking well that I will get my $1500. I don't trust people and I sure as hell am not gonna trust him or her.

I want to sell this thing so I could upgrade, but I sure as hell am not going to just give it away. This isn't some crappy Citizens equipment and I worked hard for it.

Not to mention that the name on the credit card is not even the same as the buyer's name. Hell, not even the same damn place. I gave this person my phone # to call me to confirm everything, but they never called so that raised another red flag.

Anyone wanna buy it? $1400 and it's your. It's like bran new (I baby my electronics lol)

Nice story and i feel with you

I dont trust anyone either and im not about to start just because a friggin support lady says otherwise and not even asking my name haha

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 04:01 AM

I hope I can actually sell it. I want to upgrade to a higher model and I can get a good deal for it.. Just need to sell this one for at least $1400

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 09:16 AM

the fucker emailed me back after I sent him an email saying that I will not be shipping anything because I do not trust him etc.. and he said

"Hello ayangwie,
you are getting every thing all wrong....PLs try and believe me....contact the bank for verification......
Thanx.."

He really fucked up my name in this email haha

ssp · 01-23-2006, 09:55 AM

These scammers are on ebay alot as well. Offering a good amount of money, always insisting to pay through money order. Don't do it it's a scam.

fuzebox · 01-23-2006, 10:18 AM

Forge an email back to him coming from USPS saying the credit card was declined and his money order will not be sent, and then right after email him yourself saying that the money order didn't go through and you need Western Union sent.

sticki · 01-23-2006, 11:00 AM

good call on not sending it...sounds like a sure scam...i like the western union idea...don't accept paypal either...they're crap

Yngwie · 01-23-2006, 10:19 PM

I told this person straight out that I will not send anything unless I have the money in my hands. I did mention the western union idea, but this fucker keeps insisting that I should trust him/her that the money order is real. That right there tell me that it's a scammer. I don't just give out my trust to anyone. They have to earn it. This fuck is not getting anything from me.

01-23-2006, 02:21 AM	#1
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	So I put my Denon AVR-3802 up for sale on bargainhunter.ca, I chose MY town and out an ad in that section. I get an email concerning my ad. Some person from god knows where overseas is interested and willing to give me $1500 for my home theatre reciever. Ok, so all sounds good, right? well, I had a bad feeling about this since the first email, but still kept in contact. This person gets a money order from USPS.com for $1500usd, I get the confirmation email that stated that I must send the package and get a tracking #. After that I would have to email them the tracking # so they can make sure that I sent the item in question. So I check the buyer's infor on the USPS confirmation mail. I see a name, part of the credit card #, address, state etc.. So I decide to investigate further. I check with USA 411 for the name that was on the credit card that was used to buy the money order.. Hmmm.. no one by that name in Rochester, NY (the state that was given on the credit card info) or in the entire USA. ok so maybe this person is unlisted so I do some more research and look for the street that was mentioned (Fria DR in Rochester, NY)> Guess what? there is no street by that name in Rochester or anywhere in NY. By this point I'm feeling very weary about this whole deal. I'm expected to send something I paid $2600 for without actually having gotten the money for it? Just feel safe that I will recieve my money after that I sent it? Fuck that! So I call USPS to do more research and try to confirm that this money order is legit and not a fake email that LOOKS legit. What does the retarded cu nt at USPS tell me? "Well, I can't confirm that, but we did get 1000's of calls today concerning money orders so I can say that it's legit" So I tell the retard "How can you say it's legit when you never asked for my name or the name of the person that made this money order? How can you just tell me that it's legit without having any info?" So she says "all I can say is that it's real" I say "ok, whatever" and hang up. The buyer emails me back with the shipping documents and tells me "print 3 copies, go to your nearest fedex and ship it" He continues by saying "I want this shipped by tomorrow" Well, sorry to say, but I am not shipping a damn thing without knowing full fucking well that I will get my $1500. I don't trust people and I sure as hell am not gonna trust him or her. I want to sell this thing so I could upgrade, but I sure as hell am not going to just give it away. This isn't some crappy Citizens equipment and I worked hard for it. Not to mention that the name on the credit card is not even the same as the buyer's name. Hell, not even the same damn place. I gave this person my phone # to call me to confirm everything, but they never called so that raised another red flag. Anyone wanna buy it? $1400 and it's your. It's like bran new (I baby my electronics lol) __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 02:27 AM	#2
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	if this person thinks that I'm an idiot that will just ship this item out without getting any money they better think again. I'm not about to get scammed. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 02:32 AM	#3
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	would help if the person's name on the credit card would actually exist and was the same name and address as the actual buyer. Of course, the buyer's address is sure as hell not from the USA. like wtf is BJ, FLCH, estate shagari Akinogun b/stop, Ipaja Lagos, NG __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 02:34 AM	#4
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	run the shipping adress in a search engine and see if its a mailbox rental place. __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

01-23-2006, 02:34 AM	#5
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	hmm.. Nigeria? fuck that shit __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 02:44 AM	#8
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I mean why in the hell would a person from overseas go to bargainhunter.ca which is obviously Canadian then go to the Sudbury, Ontario section of the site (a small town) and buy something like this? Right there I see this as a scam and I didn't feel right about it right from that point. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 02:51 AM	#10
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	this is what was on the confirmation email at the bottom. Order Status: Auction Payments Order Available AVAILABLE Order Placed 01-20-2006 Order Status postal Order Available Paypal Order Approved postal Order Confirmed Billing Information: Status: Processed successfully Card Type MasterCard Card Number 5************* Exp. Date 7/2009 Name on Card Dianna Weygnand Street Address 100 FRIAS DR City, State, Zip ROCHESTER,NY,14262 Country USA Services Purchased: ItemAmount $1500.00 Shipping Fee $00.00 Total Amount posted to card $1500.00 Item Unit 1 Unit Purchased Item Information: Auction site Bargainhunter.ca Phone Number ------------------- Item description Denon AVR-3802 Seller Information: Name Alain Lalonde Email Address of the seller [email protected] Address ***** (removed by me) city,zip code ******* (removed by me) State ON country Canada __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca**

01-23-2006, 02:52 AM	#11
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	and it sure wasn't an auction site __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 02:58 AM	#13
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	the actual person who would recieve this package is named Olumide Cerah.. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 03:01 AM	#16
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I'm still going to sell this, but not to this fucker or anyone else trying to scam me. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 03:04 AM	#18
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	Lagos lol not in a million years Id say Ive never shipped anything to Middle Africa/Indonesia/Russia and some other countries that have a 99.9% fraud rate on check cards etc __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

01-23-2006, 03:12 AM	#20
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I need to find an HONEST buyer. Damn these scamming fucks. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 04:01 AM	#22
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I hope I can actually sell it. I want to upgrade to a higher model and I can get a good deal for it.. Just need to sell this one for at least $1400 __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 09:16 AM	#23
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	the fucker emailed me back after I sent him an email saying that I will not be shipping anything because I do not trust him etc.. and he said "Hello ayangwie, you are getting every thing all wrong....PLs try and believe me....contact the bank for verification...... Thanx.." He really fucked up my name in this email haha __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

01-23-2006, 09:55 AM	#24
ssp Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,990	These scammers are on ebay alot as well. Offering a good amount of money, always insisting to pay through money order. Don't do it it's a scam.

01-23-2006, 10:18 AM	#25
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,130	Forge an email back to him coming from USPS saying the credit card was declined and his money order will not be sent, and then right after email him yourself saying that the money order didn't go through and you need Western Union sent.

01-23-2006, 11:00 AM	#26
sticki Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 215	good call on not sending it...sounds like a sure scam...i like the western union idea...don't accept paypal either...they're crap

01-23-2006, 10:19 PM	#27
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I told this person straight out that I will not send anything unless I have the money in my hands. I did mention the western union idea, but this fucker keeps insisting that I should trust him/her that the money order is real. That right there tell me that it's a scammer. I don't just give out my trust to anyone. They have to earn it. This fuck is not getting anything from me. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca