Chris Wilson throws in the towel - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

you been sued by the government? wow

You're a dumbass.

Veterans Day · 01-16-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

You're a dumbass.

if you ever got pinned by the Gov they would break your shit talking ass in a heartbeat, baller

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

if you ever got pinned by the Gov they would break your shit talking ass in a heartbeat, baller

You know nothing. Do some research before you open your mouth.

Veterans Day · 01-16-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

You know nothing. Do some research before you open your mouth.

nothing to research, if the Gov wants to break you, they can and will. NOONE has more time and money than them. I thought this was common knowledge.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

nothing to research, if the Gov wants to break you, they can and will. NOONE has more time and money than them. I thought this was common knowledge.

Prove it.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

nothing to research, if the Gov wants to break you, they can and will. NOONE has more time and money than them. I thought this was common knowledge.

BTW, this is Polk County. Many cities and counties have been broken by lawsuits.

fuzebox · 01-16-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HomoErectus

U know.. Canada would be a nice place to move..... you pay yer taxes up there and you actually get something in return.

You mean you pay your taxes and the lazy ass dregs of society get something in return.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

You mean you pay your taxes and the lazy ass dregs of society get something in return.

LOL. I think it's that way every where except countries where no one pays taxes.

tony286 · 01-16-2006, 11:28 AM

I got figure with the lawyer who was representing him , who always came off to me as very money hungry. Probably threw frighteningly large numbers at Chris at what this would cost and the large chunk he would want up front. So I can see taking the deal. The big talk I would fight to the end works if your very rich or your lawyer is a crusader who is in it mainly for the fight not the money because he wants to make history and social change.There aren't many of that type lol

pornguy · 01-16-2006, 11:36 AM

I think that this was a major mistake. However what is the information that we DO NOT KNOW, that his attorney advised him to take the plea.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I got figure with the lawyer who was representing him , who always came off to me as very money hungry. Probably threw frighteningly large numbers at Chris at what this would cost and the large chunk he would want up front. So I can see taking the deal. The big talk I would fight to the end works if your very rich or your lawyer is a crusader who is in it mainly for the fight not the money because he wants to make history and social change.There aren't many of that type lol

My last lawyer I fired because he wouldn't find an end. The following week I went to see their lawyer, we drew up the contract, and it was over.

You have to be tough with some lawyers. They are YOUR employee. Be the boss or fire them.

directfiesta · 01-16-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

you been sued by the government? wow

I have been sued by " The Majesty the Queen Elisabeth 2 " .... in 1983.

and WOW you ...

Veterans Day · 01-16-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

I have been sued by " The Majesty the Queen Elisabeth 2 " .... in 1983.

and WOW you ...

another baller, wow

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

another baller, wow

What a come back. So original.

directfiesta · 01-16-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

another baller, wow

You weren't even borned ....

For Montrealers, it involved the bar " Les Amazones" , ownership of Sergiakis and my company ( distributing cassettes in topless bars and hotels ).

So go suck a cock, uselless hole.

eroswebmaster · 01-16-2006, 11:55 AM

You guys are seeing what I have been talking about on this board for quite some time.

I said it during my first year on this board that they will start bringing RICO charges against people. The responses were always the same..*buried heads* or "RICO investigations take years."

Well, the government was willing to move rather quickly ont his one.

And I guarantee you this will not be the last RICO charge we'll see.

Another thing I have been mentioning for years now, is that a lot of people here don't recall what it was like during the Reagan era.

For one most were still in elementary school or diapers, but when the Meese report came out about porn the Reagan administration made some moves which had a trickle down effect across the country.

City governments started to go after adult related businesses using zoning ordinances, it killed most of the adult business in Dallas, there are still a few standing but not nearly as much as there were before this.

There to this day is still no "porn" being sold in Fort Worth, someone opened up one store in Kennedale which is just on the outskirts, but no where directly in the city.

I still remember to this day, going into the adult shop in downtown Fort Worth I had rented a video the previous week, and came back for another. When I arrived home it was censored.

I went back to the video store and the owner sat there and denied ever having any uncensored videos in his store ever. It was like the twilight zone. And the look on his face was of fear, I didn't realise what happened until later and he must have thought I was working Vice under cover or something.

Government has not necessarily unlimited resources, but they can put the hurt on a business by shutting you down for days, or keep you constantly in court paying your attorney and it can get quite expensive.

They won't get you on obscenity necessarily, or you may win, but at what cost?
Your business gets shut down in the process either way if you are not able to adequately cover the cost of the defense.

So while I would have loved to see this guy fight the battle for us, I can understand why he would have given up.

He could have stuck it out for the next couple of years going in and out of jail, and be broke in the end, or get out now and take the money and try to develop a real life for himself instead of being a martyr for us.

Gottis · 01-16-2006, 11:58 AM

Now that's fucked up

Splum · 01-16-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gottis

Now that's fucked up

hahahaha well said

Matt 26z · 01-16-2006, 12:19 PM

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...on=6.0.12.1040
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He's not the only one raising this question. When news of the photos first broke, Arsalan Iftikhar of the Council on American-Islamic Relations sent a letter to Donald Rumsfeld demanding an investigation. Iftikhar now believes Wilson's arrest was a "politically motivated" solution. "It wouldn't surprise me," he says, "if the charges were there to deflect from the issue at hand: the violence suffered by the Iraqi people."

An anonymous source, claiming Pentagon access, went further: "Once the deputy chief of staff got word, a call was made to the Florida prosecutor and the governor, who of course is related to the president. A day later, [Wilson was] arrested."
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fris · 01-16-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

What a come back. So original.

can you please hit me up about the ad you took down.

directfiesta · 01-16-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...on=6.0.12.1040
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He's not the only one raising this question. When news of the photos first broke, Arsalan Iftikhar of the Council on American-Islamic Relations sent a letter to Donald Rumsfeld demanding an investigation. Iftikhar now believes Wilson's arrest was a "politically motivated" solution. "It wouldn't surprise me," he says, "if the charges were there to deflect from the issue at hand: the violence suffered by the Iraqi people."

An anonymous source, claiming Pentagon access, went further: "Once the deputy chief of staff got word, a call was made to the Florida prosecutor and the governor, who of course is related to the president. A day later, [Wilson was] arrested."
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In all previous threads, a bunch of guys were saying the Feds had nothing to do in that ...

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

In all previous threads, a bunch of guys were saying the Feds had nothing to do in that ...

I saw the opposite.

Pleasurepays · 01-16-2006, 12:44 PM

BUT BUT BUT BUT.... I thought Chris was fighting for me. For all of us. Thats what his buddies kept saying while begging for money. Since he plead no contest and worked out a deal, do we get our money back now? HAHAHA!

Hornydog4cooter · 01-16-2006, 12:45 PM

Are the orginal pictures back up on the site? I just read a article they were. If so what did he plead guilty too?

SilentKnight · 01-16-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

He could have stuck it out for the next couple of years going in and out of jail, and be broke in the end, or get out now and take the money and try to develop a real life for himself instead of being a martyr for us.

Didn't quote it all, but interesting post eros.

You mention about martyrs. After reading that, I couldn't help thinking why anyone would even consider wanting to be a martyr for the industry these days (unless you're genuinely driven by free speech principles yourself).

I would far sooner back down on these charges and then try and do an end-run around the legal system farther down the road once I'd regrouped and thought all the issues through fully (and consulted with a knowledgeable and experienced attorney).

To give Chris's ordeal a war analogy - he may have lost a small battle, but the war is far from over. I don't blame him one bit for accepting the plea agreement at this point in the game. Major kudos to him for sticking it out as long as he did...and at least attempting to stand his ground, if only for a relatively short while.

The main thing I'm still somewhat puzzled and curious about though - is how they could have made it a condition of his agreement that he wasn't to associate himself with adult-based content or activities while 'on probation'. I mean, how can they enforce something like that - a totally legal endeavour. I don't know how much of the adult stuff comprised Chris's livelihood, but it seems as though the gov't and legal system is intent on kneecapping his abilities to earn income for himself that way.

We surely seem to live in some sort of twisted, parallel universe these days where the lunatics and idiots are calling the shots and running the asylum.

12clicks · 01-16-2006, 01:24 PM

how silly.
he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law.

eroswebmaster · 01-16-2006, 01:40 PM

Silent Knight I can't show I'm quoting you directly because for days now GFY has been fucked up...LOL

I can't start new posts, edit others or use the post reply button. I can only do quick replies.

Anyway here's what I'm quoting from you:

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You mention about martyrs. After reading that, I couldn't help thinking why anyone would even consider wanting to be a martyr for the industry these days (unless you're genuinely driven by free speech principles yourself).

I agree wholeheartedly. When a good part of this industry is made up of individuals like some of the miscreants here on GFY *I'm not talking about the good people mind you* but the shit talkers, the ones who behave like trolls, etc. There really isn't anyone I would take the bullet for.

No one really cared about this guy winning his court case so he could live as a free man, they only cared about this court case so they could continue to make money with a few less worries while he goes through his life savings and loses his business in the process, and quite possibly his freedom.

eroswebmaster · 01-16-2006, 01:42 PM

since I can't edit let me sort of restate that.

When I said "no one really cared," I'm talking about that large majority of miscreants here on GFY, the shit talkers who are talking about how he let us as an industry down.

I'll be honest. I didn't send any money to his defense fund. I don't have the extra funds to send to him, and I'm sure a good deal of people talking shit about this guy didn't send any money either.

Sure there are some, but I guarantee you the majority of the members of this community did not.

crockett · 01-16-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

how silly.
he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law.

He didn't break any laws.. He was arrested on obscenity charges and it was never proven in a court that he was guilty of obscenity.

eroswebmaster · 01-16-2006, 01:47 PM

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how silly.
he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law.

Probably only one of the things I'll ever agree with 12clicks about.

If it came time for me to decide between my freedom, and the continued financial security of my family or running a porn site. I would have chosen my freedom as would have most here.

jonesy · 01-16-2006, 02:01 PM

anyone who rips on that guys decision to plea is a fucking asshole.

most of you pussies have never had charges brought agaisnt you other than a traffic violation and you talk about how you would have fought back.

nothing worse than armchair assholes.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

how silly. he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law.

He didn't break the law.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

anyone who rips on that guys decision to plea is a fucking asshole. most of you pussies have never had charges brought agaisnt you other than a traffic violation and you talk about how you would have fought back. nothing worse than armchair assholes.

Uh, I've been arrested and put in jail. I faught and won.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Probably only one of the things I'll ever agree with 12clicks about. If it came time for me to decide between my freedom, and the continued financial security of my family or running a porn site. I would have chosen my freedom as would have most here.

I think that why some of us have mentioned moving. I'm sure he at least wont stay in polk county.

directfiesta · 01-16-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

Uh, I've been arrested and put in jail. I faught and won.

So did I, for obscenety charges...

Got fingerprinted and mugshot first arrest.
Second arrest, again prints and mugshots.

I lost in first instance ( municipal court here ). Won on appeal ... That was the end of videos being seized by cops and prosecuted..

When the " women league ( read butches ) " or religious freaks called the cops to complain, they answered they had lost and couldn't do anything about it.

That was 1983 . And I did it to preserve my business...

So the " real armchair" idiots saying he did great, it is only because he was starving with his s ite.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

So did I, for obscenety charges... Got fingerprinted and mugshot first arrest. Second arrest, again prints and mugshots. I lost in first instance ( municipal court here ). Won on appeal ... That was the end of videos being seized by cops and prosecuted.. When the " women league ( read butches ) " or religious freaks called the cops to complain, they answered they had lost and couldn't do anything about it. That was 1983 . And I did it to preserve my business... So the " real armchair" idiots saying he did great, it is only because he was starving with his s ite.

What city and state?

directfiesta · 01-16-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

What city and state?

Montreal, Quebec.

They had arreested Norman Creechman ( Love Video ) first, but he folded like Chris and went to do car detailling in Flea Markets in Florida . Then they busted a second small player, same story . Then they busted me and threaten to charge my delivery guy, my secretary that had signed the delivery slips and so on ... It got nasty ...

The asshole cops told me they would get me, that they were going to ruin me ... They layed 255 charges total.

When I won in appeal, they wanted to forget the first 2 charges they lost, and proceed one by one on the others.

My lawyer, Milton Hartman ( now deceased ) was neighboor of Herbert Max, minister of Justice in Quebec. My lawyer told Herbert Max that if they proceeded with the other charges, I would flood the country of the first 2 titles I won on... and bring the case I won to the Supreme Court under a " bref de certiori " ...

Never been bothered afterwards.

AdPatron · 01-16-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Montreal, Quebec.

I thought montreal was more liberal than that.

directfiesta · 01-16-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

I thought montreal was more liberal than that.

not in 1983 ... Movies that I was charged on were already edited ( no penetration, no cumshots ) ...

Now it is liberal because people fought in court for their rights and business, the latest being the owner of l"Orage , the swingers club.

He got charged a few years back for operating a bawdy house. Lost in first instance, won on appeal two three weeks ago ...

Now let see some of the smart ass here have the same balls ... they will run with their galleries like rats from a sinking ship.

01-16-2006, 11:36 AM	#60
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I think that this was a major mistake. However what is the information that we DO NOT KNOW, that his attorney advised him to take the plea. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

01-16-2006, 11:55 AM	#66
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	You guys are seeing what I have been talking about on this board for quite some time. I said it during my first year on this board that they will start bringing RICO charges against people. The responses were always the same..buried heads or "RICO investigations take years." Well, the government was willing to move rather quickly ont his one. And I guarantee you this will not be the last RICO charge we'll see. Another thing I have been mentioning for years now, is that a lot of people here don't recall what it was like during the Reagan era. For one most were still in elementary school or diapers, but when the Meese report came out about porn the Reagan administration made some moves which had a trickle down effect across the country. City governments started to go after adult related businesses using zoning ordinances, it killed most of the adult business in Dallas, there are still a few standing but not nearly as much as there were before this. There to this day is still no "porn" being sold in Fort Worth, someone opened up one store in Kennedale which is just on the outskirts, but no where directly in the city. I still remember to this day, going into the adult shop in downtown Fort Worth I had rented a video the previous week, and came back for another. When I arrived home it was censored. I went back to the video store and the owner sat there and denied ever having any uncensored videos in his store ever. It was like the twilight zone. And the look on his face was of fear, I didn't realise what happened until later and he must have thought I was working Vice under cover or something. Government has not necessarily unlimited resources, but they can put the hurt on a business by shutting you down for days, or keep you constantly in court paying your attorney and it can get quite expensive. They won't get you on obscenity necessarily, or you may win, but at what cost? Your business gets shut down in the process either way if you are not able to adequately cover the cost of the defense. So while I would have loved to see this guy fight the battle for us, I can understand why he would have given up. He could have stuck it out for the next couple of years going in and out of jail, and be broke in the end, or get out now and take the money and try to develop a real life for himself instead of being a martyr for us. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

01-16-2006, 01:24 PM	#76
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	how silly. he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

01-16-2006, 01:42 PM	#78
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	since I can't edit let me sort of restate that. When I said "no one really cared," I'm talking about that large majority of miscreants here on GFY, the shit talkers who are talking about how he let us as an industry down. I'll be honest. I didn't send any money to his defense fund. I don't have the extra funds to send to him, and I'm sure a good deal of people talking shit about this guy didn't send any money either. Sure there are some, but I guarantee you the majority of the members of this community did not. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

01-16-2006, 02:01 PM	#81
jonesy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,688	anyone who rips on that guys decision to plea is a fucking asshole. most of you pussies have never had charges brought agaisnt you other than a traffic violation and you talk about how you would have fought back. nothing worse than armchair assholes. __________________ . Shooting Bikini Girls

01-16-2006, 11:28 AM	#59
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I got figure with the lawyer who was representing him , who always came off to me as very money hungry. Probably threw frighteningly large numbers at Chris at what this would cost and the large chunk he would want up front. So I can see taking the deal. The big talk I would fight to the end works if your very rich or your lawyer is a crusader who is in it mainly for the fight not the money because he wants to make history and social change.There aren't many of that type lol

01-16-2006, 11:58 AM	#67
Gottis Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: VIP NO ID Posts: 1,746	Now that's fucked up

01-16-2006, 12:19 PM	#69
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...on=6.0.12.1040 ---------- He's not the only one raising this question. When news of the photos first broke, Arsalan Iftikhar of the Council on American-Islamic Relations sent a letter to Donald Rumsfeld demanding an investigation. Iftikhar now believes Wilson's arrest was a "politically motivated" solution. "It wouldn't surprise me," he says, "if the charges were there to deflect from the issue at hand: the violence suffered by the Iraqi people." An anonymous source, claiming Pentagon access, went further: "Once the deputy chief of staff got word, a call was made to the Florida prosecutor and the governor, who of course is related to the president. A day later, [Wilson was] arrested." --------------

01-16-2006, 12:44 PM	#73
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	BUT BUT BUT BUT.... I thought Chris was fighting for me. For all of us. Thats what his buddies kept saying while begging for money. Since he plead no contest and worked out a deal, do we get our money back now? HAHAHA!

01-16-2006, 12:45 PM	#74
Hornydog4cooter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,859	Are the orginal pictures back up on the site? I just read a article they were. If so what did he plead guilty too?