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Old 01-14-2006, 01:28 AM   #1
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Promote a Chubby SOLOteen - win $100 inside

I need more ways to promote my chubby SOLO-teen site

Give me tips in this thread and i´ll pay you $10 paypal or epass. I know it´s not that much, but it´s always something!!
Does not have to be a sensational promoting tips, just give me what you have in mind.

The best tips wins $100.
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:29 AM   #2
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about you shoot us your URL so we can help
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:30 AM   #3
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Banner in the sig would be good.
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:35 AM   #4
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Anyone with the nickname "scatty" perhaps makes me very leery
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:35 AM   #5
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about you shoot us your URL so we can help
Is it ok. if i put the site online before i give you the URL ??

Will launch May-06.
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:36 AM   #6
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Try a blog. That is one of the best ways.
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:36 AM   #7
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:38 AM   #8
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I will let this thread be alive as long as possible (will bump it myself if i need to) and i´ll pay everyone when in 24 hrs. from now
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:39 AM   #9
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Skin the board is a good idea if you have enough money for it.
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:48 AM   #10
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I will let this thread be alive as long as possible (will bump it myself if i need to) and i´ll pay everyone when in 24 hrs. from now
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:50 AM   #11
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Advertise on all the big "surfer boards", and make the model accessable to her members (i.e. cam chats, forum, etc.). That's two tips...do I get $20? lol
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Old 01-14-2006, 04:51 AM   #12
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Bumpity bump
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Old 01-14-2006, 04:54 AM   #13
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try getting listed on the review sites, you'll shit when you see conversions..
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:01 AM   #14
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also, you can go with submitting galleries to TGPS, making free sites and submit them to link list, make movie galleries and submit them to mgp, try to get good listings on SE's, go to message boards where people are looking for/talk about porn and post there (don't make it look like spam. act like a surfer that found "your" site etc..)

also, you can make deals with other paysite owners to add your site(s) to their consoles (exit or whatever). use every way you can to get people to the site and at thesame time it gets the name out there. word of mouth is a powerfull thing.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:04 AM   #15
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and when submitting to tgps/mgps/link lists target the exact niche of your site whenever possible.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:14 AM   #16
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Have her make fan signs that will get a lot of people to get links up.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:15 AM   #17
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about you shoot us your URL so we can help
thats worth $100
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:15 AM   #18
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get someone who understands marketing
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:28 AM   #19
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I need more ways to promote my chubby SOLO-teen site

Give me tips in this thread and i´ll pay you $10 paypal or epass. I know it´s not that much, but it´s always something!!
Does not have to be a sensational promoting tips, just give me what you have in mind.

The best tips wins $100.
Here is your winner! You trade traffic with "skinny" solo girl sites! Read me out, chubby girls and solo girls don't offer compitition to each other because a guy likes one or the other, so trading links can only help the girls, not hurt them at all. Most smart skinny solo girls will go for it, unless how ever they work for someone like LightSpeed, then you would have to go to them, but you should start slow first, Go to sologals or something and pick a few Indy Solo Girls, email them with the idea, and there you go!

I know this works because this is what my wife used to do, she seen results the first day!

And no, my wife isn't chubby
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:32 AM   #20
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BTW, you can get ahold of me at "wearenotabot" on yahoo messenger or ICQ in my Sig for payment!
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:39 AM   #21
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and when submitting to tgps/mgps/link lists target the exact niche of your site whenever possible.
make a blog, open "trade links" thread on every big adult forum, use that tip above and collect more link exchanges daily...

how much money did i earn?

good luck!
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:50 AM   #22
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make a blog, open "trade links" thread on every big adult forum, use that tip above and collect more link exchanges daily...

how much money did i earn?

good luck!
You did nothing but repeat what was already said! lol
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:51 AM   #23
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Do tons of lezzie vids and pic sets...... Unusual object insertions, pee vids and pics etc then buy hardlinks on niche TGP's and MPG's. Extreme and bizzarre seem to be doiung well these days
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Old 01-14-2006, 06:40 AM   #24
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Considering most guys like more than ONE kind of woman, and men can appreciate a variety, there's no reason why different niches can't cross promote.... Someone can like Lightspeed girls AND black girls, or asians AND chubby girls, or all of the above. Some men just love women in general. Most of the guys I know with site memberships have them to several sites of different niches.
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Old 01-14-2006, 06:52 AM   #25
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Good quality AVS sites can still work well

1. The surfer entered the site so you know they are interested in the niche/girl.

2. You know they have a credit card and they arnt affraid to use it.

3. You will even get some bonus cash from the AVS as well - make sure you list the AVS site on link lists.

PS. AVS = Whatever it is they call themselves these days.
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Old 01-14-2006, 06:54 AM   #26
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I still want to know who you are and why you were offering money for a picture of my boss.
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Old 01-14-2006, 07:34 AM   #27
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Hire someone ( like Juicy) to help you promote your site to webmaster affiliates.
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Old 01-14-2006, 07:43 AM   #28
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Scatty you didn't pay for the last contest 2 days ago why should anyone believe you will this time?
ICQ me 338702577 and pay up and you'll get your cred. back
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Old 01-14-2006, 07:51 AM   #29
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Scatty you didn't pay for the last contest 2 days ago why should anyone believe you will this time?
ICQ me 338702577 and pay up and you'll get your cred. back
I asked for a picture, NOT for a low-res thumb.
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:45 PM   #30
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I asked for a picture, NOT for a low-res thumb.

Well, Todd himself provided you a picture in that thread so you should be paying him. Also, how come you won't directly respond to any of my posts asking why you wanted his picutre?
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:51 PM   #31
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Do NOT give this "scatty guy" advice. He just wants "free advice".

P.S. ANYONE WITH THE NICK SCATTY IS A FUCKING RETARD TO BEGIN WITH THANKS!
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Old 01-14-2006, 06:59 PM   #32
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I want paid!
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Must be a troll!
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Old 01-14-2006, 07:20 PM   #34
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Nah he's a rich guy, I read about him in the newspaper.
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a rose is rose is a rose. Loser.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:25 PM   #36
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Put the Chubby chick on a diet and promote a Solo Teen site instead.
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Where's my cash?
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:05 AM   #38
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do u have aff program or its just paysite (without affiliates ?)
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:07 AM   #39
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if u have aff program then make memorable avatar and banner with nice logo (for the avatar) and informative text for the banner and start writing usefull threads in the boards (I'm sure u know which are the good boards)

Pushing usefull threads (and not spamming) will give u the image the webmasters need to trust u and promote u
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:11 AM   #40
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write a little php script which tells the surfers that u have promo and the price u offfer is valid for only 2-3 days
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:15 AM   #42
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i think, firstly.you should start from your site SEO,as you all know, TGP traffics are sucks,most of great programs have a good SEO,they can been find on the Google or yahoo.secondly,you can advertising your programs on some popular adult webmaster board,such as gfy ,netpond,etc..


so how about my tip?

BTW, you can hit me up ,if you want give the $100 to me, icq:255-199-944.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:52 AM   #43
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I do quite a bit of work in this niche.
You want to create a little community around this girl.
I'd actually recommend NOT having public blogs. Have a diary where she talks about herself, and more to the point, her sexuality. It's stuff like that that gets a surfer much more interested in the long term. I've found w/ solo girls, esp in this niche, guys want to know that the girl is genuine. Keep her consistant & sexy, and you'll be there.

Give points of contact with her and the surfers. If you can stand the mod hassles, run a public forum on her webpage for the surfers. There's lots of moderation woes involved with this, but it's a great start up.
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No site. No pics. You want to pay $10 for marketing ideas?

Here's an idea...follow the title of this site and...

GO FUCK YOURSELF
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:57 AM   #45
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I do quite a bit of work in this niche.
You want to create a little community around this girl.
I'd actually recommend NOT having public blogs. Have a diary where she talks about herself, and more to the point, her sexuality. It's stuff like that that gets a surfer much more interested in the long term. I've found w/ solo girls, esp in this niche, guys want to know that the girl is genuine. Keep her consistant & sexy, and you'll be there.

Give points of contact with her and the surfers. If you can stand the mod hassles, run a public forum on her webpage for the surfers. There's lots of moderation woes involved with this, but it's a great start up.
I forgot to add. I don't want your $10. I want you to release a good site, and you can pay me by putting me in the beta test.
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Nah he's a rich guy, I read about him in the newspaper.
Lol, he needs to pay up, lol
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bump for Scatty,lol
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Old 01-15-2006, 01:44 PM   #48
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it's time to give out the money,lol
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Again, where's my cash?
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Noone will be getting any cash. he ran off with the ideas.
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