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Kimmykim · 04-09-2002, 08:36 PM

Any one here have a contact that works? Another spam in my box from them tonite and we're going to see if the name holds true.

04-09-2002, 08:37 PM

busted !

Rod · 04-09-2002, 08:37 PM

what do you exactly need?

someone to spam something for you, on a bullet proof host?

SleazyDream · 04-09-2002, 08:38 PM

Hun's got a good idea, more of us should start img scr ing the spammer's servers. No website - no money - no more spam. least thats the theory..........

Tam · 04-09-2002, 08:39 PM

I don't know who that is but I am being spammed like a bict by this one here:
GLORYBEHOSTING.COM

And I KNOW for a fact this email wasn't gotten from any opt-in list as I ONLY use the one being spammed here on the actual site and nowhere else.

I have been spammed by this one 5 times today and 4 yesterday...... it's gettin real damn old. Don't even think of blocking the email, they just get new ones. LOL

Tam

Rod · 04-09-2002, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
Hun's got a good idea, more of us should start img scr ing the spammer's servers. No website - no money - no more spam. least thats the theory..........

What about spammers img scr your sites with the 10s of millions page views they get in their e-mails?

Did you ever think of that...?

SleazyDream · 04-09-2002, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rod

What about spammers img scr your sites with the 10s of millions page views they get in their e-mails?

Did you ever think of that...?

that sounds like a threat from a spammer to me.

Rod · 04-09-2002, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

that sounds like a threat from a spammer to me.

hmm, now you accuse me of spamming?
got proof?

I just say the reality...

Fro · 04-09-2002, 08:42 PM

If the recent fall of Global Crossing has taught us anything, it's taught us that bandwidth is a commodity available in excess these days. I don't think you'll really get to someone through an image src... Unless they're some poor schmoe on a narrow piece of pipe.

SleazyDream · 04-09-2002, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro
If the recent fall of Global Crossing has taught us anything, it's taught us that bandwidth is a commodity available in excess these days. I don't think you'll really get to someone through an image src... Unless they're some poor schmoe on a narrow piece of pipe.

depends on the traffic levels. many big sites (even little ones like mine too)are on a lot more than one just server. If a spammer has only on or two sevrers they get overloaded

Wiredoctor · 04-09-2002, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro
If the recent fall of Global Crossing has taught us anything, it's taught us that bandwidth is a commodity available in excess these days. I don't think you'll really get to someone through an image src... Unless they're some poor schmoe on a narrow piece of pipe.

Its not the bandwidth, its the server. Most mass spammers dont really use much bandwidth it more a function of cpu's and all. so the proper img src ing would kill the server...see what I mean...??

Fro · 04-09-2002, 08:50 PM

Hell, good points!

Until I was able to setup countermeasures, I knew what it meant to feel the wrath of a couple of password crackers working through open proxies.

Rod · 04-09-2002, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

depends on the traffic levels. many big sites (even little ones like mine too)are on a lot more than one just server. If a spammer has only on or two sevrers they get overloaded

Unfortunatly, most real spammers has a big network of servers...thats why it would be hard to make them go down...

And if you try to attack one big spammer, he will react by doiing 1 or 2 things...

1- Sue your ass for attacking his servers.
2- Hotlink all your images in his e-mails....and if he is a real spammer that sends 30-50 millions real e-mails daily, you will see that your bill will bo up really quick.

...and you wont be able to attack him back by saying that spamming is illegal...since it is not...

Now, think twice before hotlink spammers...

P.S: I am not a spammer, I just know some big ones and trust me, I would never try to attack them...

Just my

Thanks,
Steve

Rod · 04-09-2002, 09:04 PM

kimmykim: hit me up on icq...

Fro · 04-09-2002, 09:08 PM

Steve,

That's some powerful shit, man. NO doubt.

I think spam and porn are two evils forever linked at the hip. I've yet to hear of a "big" sponsor that doesn't engage in somewhat-sketchy email marketing.

I'm reminded by a scene in "Network" where poor "madman of the airwaves" Howard Beale is told by the CEO of the multi-national power before him: "You have meddled with the primal forces of nature."

Or something to that effect.

Wiredoctor · 04-09-2002, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rod

Unfortunatly, most real spammers has a big network of servers...thats why it would be hard to make them go down...

And if you try to attack one big spammer, he will react by doiing 1 or 2 things...

1- Sue your ass for attacking his servers.
2- Hotlink all your images in his e-mails....and if he is a real spammer that sends 30-50 millions real e-mails daily, you will see that your bill will bo up really quick.

...and you wont be able to attack him back by saying that spamming is illegal...since it is not...

Now, think twice before hotlink spammers...

P.S: I am not a spammer, I just know some big ones and trust me, I would never try to attack them...

Just my

Thanks,
Steve

Those are some good points Bro. Not all true 100% but still very valid indeed.

Rod · 04-09-2002, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

Those are some good points Bro. Not all true 100% but still very valid indeed.

Can you say where I made any mystakes?
If it is the amount of e-mail sent, I know that some bigger spammers sends more than that

spacedog · 04-09-2002, 09:20 PM

call them on the phone..

here ya go....
1-800-699-9154

Rod · 04-09-2002, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
call them on the phone..

here ya go....
1-800-699-9154

funny

spacedog · 04-09-2002, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rod

funny

It's right there on their website??

Kimmykim · 04-09-2002, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
call them on the phone..

here ya go....
1-800-699-9154

Thanks spacedog, I certainly didn't see it on the bounce back I got when I replied to their spam. ;)

SleazyDream · 04-09-2002, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rod

Unfortunatly, most real spammers has a big network of servers...thats why it would be hard to make them go down...

And if you try to attack one big spammer, he will react by doiing 1 or 2 things...

1- Sue your ass for attacking his servers.
2- Hotlink all your images in his e-mails....and if he is a real spammer that sends 30-50 millions real e-mails daily, you will see that your bill will bo up really quick.

...and you wont be able to attack him back by saying that spamming is illegal...since it is not...

Now, think twice before hotlink spammers...

P.S: I am not a spammer, I just know some big ones and trust me, I would never try to attack them...

Just my

Thanks,
Steve

Names man names.. No spammer would sue ANYONE - cause he would have to give his name out. There are people out there that HATE spammers soooooooo much that all spammers are in HIDING and if their name and address got out it would be VERY dangerous for them with all the psychos out there in anti spam so they would NEVER NEVER sue cause it would tell you who they are.

If a spammmer sued me I'm ensure EVERYONE on the planet knew who that spammer was. - address and all. End of problem.

mule · 04-10-2002, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

If a spammmer sued me I'm ensure EVERYONE on the planet knew who that spammer was. - address and all. End of problem.

yep, same here

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

Names man names.. No spammer would sue ANYONE - cause he would have to give his name out. There are people out there that HATE spammers soooooooo much that all spammers are in HIDING and if their name and address got out it would be VERY dangerous for them with all the psychos out there in anti spam so they would NEVER NEVER sue cause it would tell you who they are.

If a spammmer sued me I'm ensure EVERYONE on the planet knew who that spammer was. - address and all. End of problem.

Exactly, Perfectly said, Rod this is part of what I was referring to in my earlier post when I said it wasnt 100% true.
Right on Sleazy.

Rod · 04-10-2002, 04:17 AM

ahah

You know, its easy to go live in another country...he just have to sue, then disappear...simple.

and most likely, real spammers dont give you the choice to spread the word about them, because they normally can defend themselves ....

Check out the russian spammers, do you really think they are bunch of kids living in their garage?

anyway, I wont say more.

Thanks,
Steve

pimpshost · 04-10-2002, 04:21 AM

Spammers can make money, but a lot of times it is at the expense of their hosting company.

Rod · 04-10-2002, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpshost
Spammers can make money, but a lot of times it is at the expense of their hosting company.

Not really true...
Most of the time, small spammers does not use any hosting...but use sponsors that accepts spam.

And big spammers has their own sponsorship programs ,...and they have waaaaaaaay enough sales to pay for their expensive hosting...

jimmyf · 04-10-2002, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Thanks spacedog, I certainly didn't see it on the bounce back I got when I replied to their spam. ;)

Call them and tell'em your going to post there
800 number in the Newsgroups...

MikeyBoy · 04-10-2002, 05:39 AM

many of you guys dont think before u speak
if you were to img src a spammers site he would get back at you 10x times
just imagine if he spammed your website with his remove lists
imagine the heat

And if thehun actually img'srced a server don't u think they would just redirect it to his other site thumbsup or what its called.

Rod · 04-10-2002, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeyBoy
many of you guys dont think before u speak
if you were to img src a spammers site he would get back at you 10x times
just imagine if he spammed your website with his remove lists
imagine the heat

And if thehun actually img'srced a server don't u think they would just redirect it to his other site thumbsup or what its called.

Yea...CANN would take the domain back, unles you can prove you did not make the spam, which will be really hard.

So, my

is, dont fuck with spammers ...that would be a really bad idea to do so...

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 07:09 AM

Rod, you sure do side on the behalf of the spammers??? It makes everyone wonder. Not 1 time, not 2 but a whole bunch of replies from you are about not messing with spammers..???

Spammers suck period, plain and simple.

MikeyBoy · 04-10-2002, 07:37 AM

@wiredoctor

I don't if Rod sides with spammers or not!
But one thing is clear
Spammers aren't dump now a days and they will fuck u over if you mess with them plain and simple
Today its so easy to manipulate with email headers

For all that I know I could send 100,000 emails in 5 minutes that would look like you send them from your smtp or sendmail
its so easy

I'm not a spammer I just know how to do so

SR · 04-10-2002, 07:48 AM

I like the IMG idea
I'm fucking going crazy by these assholes thehun is IMG SRC ing
The mortgage assholes
I get like 10 mails from them a day
I get icq spam from them
I tried to contact them and it seems impossible
Unsubscribe didn't work either
I called them and got a busy tone all the time
If we sent them together like 10million hits a day I'm sure they won't be able to keep their servers running.
I can live with a lil spam but fucking 10 times a day and not being able to unsubscribe or call them is too much!

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 07:57 AM

Double post

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeyBoy
@wiredoctor

I don't if Rod sides with spammers or not!
But one thing is clear
Spammers aren't dump now a days and they will fuck u over if you mess with them plain and simple
Today its so easy to manipulate with email headers

For all that I know I could send 100,000 emails in 5 minutes that would look like you send them from your smtp or sendmail
its so easy

I'm not a spammer I just know how to do so

I never said spammers were dumb, I said they suck....LOLOL..and they do.

It's spelled dumb, not dump.....hehehehe .... and all email is traceable..... and please get real " they will fuck u over if you mess with them plain and simple" LOLOLOL were all shaking now..hahahhahahha........NOT !!!!!

MikeyBoy · 04-10-2002, 08:06 AM

@wiredoctor
you are acting childish
im just saying what I know

simple as that

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeyBoy
@wiredoctor
you are acting childish
im just saying what I know

simple as that

I'am not acting childish??...all I said is spammers suck (and they do), and they don't really scare anyone, maybe they annoy everyone, but they don't scare anyone, well not me anyway...

Rod · 04-10-2002, 09:07 AM

wiredoctor: I am not a spammer...I just find it funny that you think like you do. I know that they are annoying, but sorry....they are impossible to stop.

Try to fuck with them, and be sure that your little 10 millions hits daily to them wont do a thing, if not make your domains or servers down.

Btw, the way big spammers sends e-mails, its not possible to trace them...sorry.

Plain and simple.

Again, I am not a spammer, wiredoctor.

Thanks,
Steve

Pipecrew · 04-10-2002, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SR
I like the IMG idea
I'm fucking going crazy by these assholes thehun is IMG SRC ing
The mortgage assholes
I get like 10 mails from them a day
I get icq spam from them
I tried to contact them and it seems impossible
Unsubscribe didn't work either
I called them and got a busy tone all the time
If we sent them together like 10million hits a day I'm sure they won't be able to keep their servers running.
I can live with a lil spam but fucking 10 times a day and not being able to unsubscribe or call them is too much!

fuck and I thought it was only me.... Jesus christ.... I get about 10 a day, mixed in with Debt Consolidation and all kinds of other mortgage and financing crap..... ugh fuck them!

mule · 04-10-2002, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew

fuck and I thought it was only me.... Jesus christ.... I get about 10 a day, mixed in with Debt Consolidation and all kinds of other mortgage and financing crap..... ugh fuck them!

Shit, is it THEM? I get that shit all day long as well!

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rod
wiredoctor: I am not a spammer...I just find it funny that you think like you do. I know that they are annoying, but sorry....they are impossible to stop.

Try to fuck with them, and be sure that your little 10 millions hits daily to them wont do a thing, if not make your domains or servers down.

Btw, the way big spammers sends e-mails, its not possible to trace them...sorry.

Plain and simple.

Again, I am not a spammer, wiredoctor.

Thanks,
Steve

Why is it funny that I don't like spammers ??? I don't know anyone that does like them.

Oh and you are wrong, they are very easy to trace, you just have to know how. As a matter of fact these guys find them all the time [email protected]

anyway nuff said no sense in arguing about something like this. Spammers suck, plain and simple.

Rod · 04-10-2002, 09:56 AM

Its funny because I think you are only jealous.

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rod
Its funny because I think you are only jealous.

Ahhh I see now. Well we all have to live with ourselves, as far as jealous thats funny.....I make my money without pissing anyone off and don't have to worry about looking over my shoulder when I walk around.

You seem to really be on the spammers side of this issue??.... things that make you go hummmmm...

Rod · 04-10-2002, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

Ahhh I see now. Well we all have to live with ourselves, as far as jealous thats funny.....I make my money without pissing anyone off and don't have to worry about looking over my shoulder when I walk around.

You seem to really be on the spammers side of this issue??.... things that make you go hummmmm...

Like I said before, I am not a spammer, but I understand why they do it.....for the $$.

Did you ever use dialers, in the past, on your sites? Or you said to yourself that it might piss people off to pay 8$/minutes?

Did you ever put consoles on your site(s), or you told yourself that consoles are a bitch for surfers?

You see, I am sure you did, because you were making more cash by doiing it. The spammers just do the same things. They make cash by what they do, and it is legal to do what they do (if they are in the right country).

So, I totally approve it, even if I am not a spammer.

Can you understand this?

Money is the key...

ADL Colin · 04-10-2002, 11:07 AM

You must not be a PORNOGRAPHER then!

"I make my money without pissing anyone off"

quiet · 04-10-2002, 11:14 AM

yeah, img src is the answer. what a great idea.

Kimmykim · 04-10-2002, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf

Call them and tell'em your going to post there
800 number in the Newsgroups...

Great minds...

Wiredoctor · 04-10-2002, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rod

Like I said before, I am not a spammer, but I understand why they do it.....for the $$.

Did you ever use dialers, in the past, on your sites? Or you said to yourself that it might piss people off to pay 8$/minutes?

Did you ever put consoles on your site(s), or you told yourself that consoles are a bitch for surfers?

You see, I am sure you did, because you were making more cash by doiing it. The spammers just do the same things. They make cash by what they do, and it is legal to do what they do (if they are in the right country).

So, I totally approve it, even if I am not a spammer.

Can you understand this?

Money is the key...

Yes I also understand why they do it, thats obvious $$$$

OK we can drop this pointless arguing, we said our points and views.
Thanks
Wiredoctor

04-09-2002, 08:36 PM	#1
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Who thinks they are Bulletproof Hosting? Any one here have a contact that works? Another spam in my box from them tonite and we're going to see if the name holds true.

04-09-2002, 08:37 PM	#3
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04-09-2002, 08:38 PM	#4
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	Hun's got a good idea, more of us should start img scr ing the spammer's servers. No website - no money - no more spam. least thats the theory.......... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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04-09-2002, 08:50 PM	#12
Fro Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mee-chi-gaan Posts: 709	Hell, good points! Until I was able to setup countermeasures, I knew what it meant to feel the wrath of a couple of password crackers working through open proxies. __________________ I miss [Labret].

04-09-2002, 08:39 PM	#5
Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,488	I don't know who that is but I am being spammed like a bict by this one here: GLORYBEHOSTING.COM And I KNOW for a fact this email wasn't gotten from any opt-in list as I ONLY use the one being spammed here on the actual site and nowhere else. I have been spammed by this one 5 times today and 4 yesterday...... it's gettin real damn old. Don't even think of blocking the email, they just get new ones. LOL Tam

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Rod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MTL, QC, CAN Posts: 1,243	kimmykim: hit me up on icq... __________________ woohoo!

04-09-2002, 09:08 PM	#15
Fro Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mee-chi-gaan Posts: 709	Steve, That's some powerful shit, man. NO doubt. I think spam and porn are two evils forever linked at the hip. I've yet to hear of a "big" sponsor that doesn't engage in somewhat-sketchy email marketing. I'm reminded by a scene in "Network" where poor "madman of the airwaves" Howard Beale is told by the CEO of the multi-national power before him: "You have meddled with the primal forces of nature." Or something to that effect. __________________ I miss [Labret].

04-09-2002, 09:20 PM	#18
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	call them on the phone.. here ya go.... 1-800-699-9154

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Rod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MTL, QC, CAN Posts: 1,243	ahah You know, its easy to go live in another country...he just have to sue, then disappear...simple. and most likely, real spammers dont give you the choice to spread the word about them, because they normally can defend themselves .... Check out the russian spammers, do you really think they are bunch of kids living in their garage? anyway, I wont say more. Thanks, Steve __________________ woohoo!

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MikeyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 537	many of you guys dont think before u speak if you were to img src a spammers site he would get back at you 10x times just imagine if he spammed your website with his remove lists imagine the heat And if thehun actually img'srced a server don't u think they would just redirect it to his other site thumbsup or what its called.

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Wiredoctor Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Great USA Posts: 1,632	Rod, you sure do side on the behalf of the spammers??? It makes everyone wonder. Not 1 time, not 2 but a whole bunch of replies from you are about not messing with spammers..??? Spammers suck period, plain and simple. __________________ Search For Everything In One Easy Portal Big Juicy Nipples.com

04-10-2002, 07:37 AM	#32
MikeyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 537	@wiredoctor I don't if Rod sides with spammers or not! But one thing is clear Spammers aren't dump now a days and they will fuck u over if you mess with them plain and simple Today its so easy to manipulate with email headers For all that I know I could send 100,000 emails in 5 minutes that would look like you send them from your smtp or sendmail its so easy I'm not a spammer I just know how to do so

04-10-2002, 07:48 AM	#33
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	I like the IMG idea I'm fucking going crazy by these assholes thehun is IMG SRC ing The mortgage assholes I get like 10 mails from them a day I get icq spam from them I tried to contact them and it seems impossible Unsubscribe didn't work either I called them and got a busy tone all the time If we sent them together like 10million hits a day I'm sure they won't be able to keep their servers running. I can live with a lil spam but fucking 10 times a day and not being able to unsubscribe or call them is too much! Last edited by SR; 04-10-2002 at 07:52 AM..

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Wiredoctor Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Great USA Posts: 1,632	Double post __________________ Search For Everything In One Easy Portal Big Juicy Nipples.com Last edited by Wiredoctor; 04-10-2002 at 08:05 AM..

04-10-2002, 08:06 AM	#36
MikeyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 537	@wiredoctor you are acting childish im just saying what I know simple as that

04-10-2002, 09:07 AM	#38
Rod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MTL, QC, CAN Posts: 1,243	wiredoctor: I am not a spammer...I just find it funny that you think like you do. I know that they are annoying, but sorry....they are impossible to stop. Try to fuck with them, and be sure that your little 10 millions hits daily to them wont do a thing, if not make your domains or servers down. Btw, the way big spammers sends e-mails, its not possible to trace them...sorry. Plain and simple. Again, I am not a spammer, wiredoctor. Thanks, Steve __________________ woohoo!

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Rod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MTL, QC, CAN Posts: 1,243	Its funny because I think you are only jealous. __________________ woohoo!

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04-10-2002, 11:14 AM	#46
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	yeah, img src is the answer. what a great idea.