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ContentSlut

Enough to afford your lifestyle and leave your 9-5 man. Honestly that's what matter,s that you're an independant self employed individual and you're succeeding.

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mrbling

Everybody who thinks making $100-$300 a day

or Anything around $3,000 -> $5,000 a month

thinks they are successful

Are

COMPLETE RETARDS

What they do not know is, adult business is finicky, you think you are living well just because you are living well now with your 2 cars and 1 house and 2 dogs?

Adult business is NOT STABLE, You may be out of a job next year
Your sponsor may stop paying you next month
You may have the worst conversions you have ever seen 3 months in a row
You still got bills to pay.

You can't make money out of thin air.

You = Bankrupt in 5 months.

This is not a steady job, You do not base your idea of success upon how many hits you got this month from
GOOGLE.
Just because you got lots of hits THIS MONTH

does not mean you will get lots of hits 4 MONTHS LATER.


You will not be doing online porn in the year 2015 , YOU STILL HAVE TO LIVE THEN DON'T YOU?
You think you will still be building freesites 10 years from now?



RETARDS

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wedouglas

Success is in the eye of the beholder. I thought it was cool when I was hitting $100 a day. Now I'm way above that, but I'm still pushing for higher. I want to be making $1K a day. After a few years of that, I probably won't have to worry about an financial situations anymore.

Success to me is living happily. I live happily now so I feel that I am successful.

Either way, this business is not a stable income source for a lot of people. Things can go to shit tomorrow.

You big money maker probablyw ont be your big money maker 5 years from now.

I say get as much as you can because it probably wont last forever.

wedouglas

hey, we're talking dollars, no posts.

GatorB

and you know this how?


and I quote

Living expenses = 20%
= $17k

$17k if you are living frugally.

perhaps you need to brush up you writting skills

anways I'm sorry that you need a million $ to make you happy. I'm also sorry that I am obviously happier and have a better self worth than you. You have my pity.

GatorB

The REAL WORLD is not stable. Just because you have a "real" job working in a factory for $14 an hour doesn't mean you will next year. They could close and move to mexico.

GatorB

And you know this how? People have been predicting the demise of porn for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. Oh and even if online porn is dead if in all the time you've been doing this you haven't learned any skills that can help you make money in some other business then YOU are reatrded.

mrbling

GatorB,
You are correct, The real world is not stable at all

That is why corporate slaves even though they are pulling in $100k a year easy with benefits,
Do not feel successful and want to get out because they are MISERABLE.

Only when you have so much money in the bank that you do not have to work anymore. (MININUm $1M++ $50k INTEREST)

Is the only time you can label yourself

"SUCCESSFUL"

All this
"eye of the beholder",
"Make more money then my day job" ,
"I have 3 beautiful kids I feel very successful"

kinds of bullshit thoughts

will only limit you to being a working slave.

Its all about if you can never work again in your life = YOU SUCCESSFUL.

Anything else = YOU ARE STILL NOT SUCCESSFUL PERIOD.

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mrbling

I know this because

The conversions I had back in 1999

Compared to the conversions I have now in 2005

Are 3x better.

Now you have to work 3x harder to make the same cake.
What does this mean? It is slowly becoming a walmart business where there is too much competition and over saturation
and the profit margins are RAZOR THIN.

Wealth is not built on RAZOR THIN MARGINS,
It is built on INOVATION AND UNSATURATED opportunities and SCALE.

I say wealth, not living income, living income can be built on digging horse manure.


Wealth is made through an extremely small range of time where there are few competitors and massive profits.

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Thomas1007

you are correct, this is why anyone with half a brain takes a percentage of their income and invests. Adult is never stable, sure you can make some decent $$ at it but im sure noone here wants to be doing this shit at 65.

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wedouglas

What about those who like to work? How come movies stars still act even though they've made 20 mil on their last flick. How come creators of Google are still working to grow Google?

They could retire a thousand times over. Sometimes it's just boring when you don't have any work to do.

wedouglas

Forget that post, I thought you said don't work anymore, not didn't have to.

mrbling

You are correct,
Many people still work, after they are successful.

I am still doing 10 hours a day even though I can stop working now. Money is never enough.


I was just explaining the definition of the most

ENTRY barrier level of the idea of "success"

And that is = Enough money to not have to work.
It doesn't have to be $20 million
It does have to be at least $1 million.

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wedouglas

post reborn, how about the guy who makes 125K a year, not a mllionaire, is 65 but doesnt have to work anymore. Someone runs his business and it shows no sign of slowing down in the 30 years its been around.

wedouglas

time was running out for me to edit that.

He plays golf everyday, has a ncie house, married, kids. Goes on vacation all the time.

GatorB

Just because YOU have low self esteem doesn't mean others have to follow suit. I'm sorry that if someone who makes a few $K a month feels successful that makes you angry.

Fact is if some dude was working at McDonald's for $6 an hour( which is only $1040 a month ) and now makes $3000 a month feels successful he in fact IS successful.

Also you are confusing financial wealth with success. 2 completely different things. Is a bench warming player who rarely plays in a game on a perennial losing baseball team making $300K a year a success? Financially he makes more than 99% of Americans. I wouldn't call him a success though.

wedouglas

Yeah, very true.

I'd say Einstein is far more successful than any porn player. Guy wasn't rich but everyone around the world knows and respects him more than anyone on here.

BlackCrayon

i guarentee the money you claim to have made did not come from adult, and if it did it came from spamming adult sites. making that kind of money (unless you run a sponsor program) just isn't possible without years and years of constant hard work when promoting via websites. maybe if you're an SEO version of stephan hawking or something but i just don't buy it.

i felt successful when i was making around 10k a month. but i feel good just not having to work a day job. i've never earned more than $9/hour with any 'real' job i've had so making 3-4k a month isn't bad. success is all relative.

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mrbling

I am sure if he is not a millionaire yet, he will feel content and happy now but not truely successful.

You should ask him in 5-10 years when he has saved up to a million++ and re-invested his profits.

Then I will be sure he will feel not only content but truely successful because he will never have to worry about money again regardless if he goes to work that day or not.
But I'm sure all successful people will go to work regardless of how much they have in the bank.


Its all about how much you do NOT have in the bank that will motivate you to an extreme to a performance level which results in $$$ accomplishments where you can end your fears.

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mrbling

I may have low self esteem @ 17 where I didn't have more then a 100k to my name which propelled me into constant learning & advancement,

but I surely do not have low self esteem now.

I am 24 years old now.

I am only informing the uninformed now from experience.

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pornguy

Take all your monthly bills. Add them up. If you are making 2x that amount per month, then you are doing damn good.

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Thomas1007

Very well said.
It doesnt take $$ to feel successful. Its what you want and your priorities in life. Im not rich, I dont have everything I want * yet * but I do make my family happy and can afford to do things that most people doing a 9-5 job cannot. This to me is success, My family is my reward.

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mrbling

This is the thought process of

LOSERS

You do not compare apples with oranges.

When you come to do business with someone, lets say Donald trump, and he asks you how many buildings do you own, you do not defer the question and tell him how many kids you have and how beautiful they are.

You stick with the point in question , HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE MADE/SAVED IN BUSINESS.

You are short changing yourself by telling yourself
"I am already successful with my kids"
You are NOT, in fact, this is the reason why you will NEVER
become successful.

Its because you give yourself a step back, you give yourself a life saver, In fact this is what MOST people do, they give themselves some backup.

The truely successful people dive head straight in.

They burn the go back home ships, because there is no place to go but FRONT, FRONT, ADVAnce, FRONT

There is NO BACKUP
There is no LIFESAVER.
There is NO WHERE TO GO BUT UP.
There is NO FAMILY to make you feel better.


Make it or die.


Your mentaility is off, sorry but you will never become a millionaire in your lifetime.

Anybody can have a family, Lots of families in africa!
Few can have a family + millions.



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Thomas1007

First off, what the fuck gave you the idea that I dont want more $$ and to improve my financial standing ?
I do of course want to make enough $$ to do what I want when I want. I do NOT want assholes like you telling me what is success and what isnt, I suppose it's what you define as success. Money isnt everything. I am sure you make more than I, but because you have $$ doesnt make you a success.
I strive daily to make more than yesterday, but I also take time away from biz to have a life. It's all about perspective. You keep your narrow minded approach and I will be outside skiing with my kids and taking what life offers me, Not stuck in a hubble fucking my hand reaching for the next million.

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mrbling

It is very unlikely I would be sitting in a hubble fucking my hand.
I just have priorities.



The fact is,
I can do anything you can do, by choice.
You can not do everything I do, by force.

That is what success means.

Choice or force.

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mrbling

To elaborate.

Example #1:

If you were an employee @ Microsoft.

Bill gates Can park in your parking space by choice.
You can not park in his parking space by force.
You may love your parking space because its right next to the window, but it makes no difference.

Example #2:

If I wanted a family, I can have a family by choice.
If you wanted to fly to switzerland for 3 weeks vacation tomorrow, you can not fly there by force.

Example #3:
The CEO gets first dibs on vacation dates near christmas by choice.
You get last dibs on vacation dates (around february - march) by force.



mrbling educating the masses.

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Thomas1007

ok I probably dont want to do everything you do for #1.
#2. Noone forces me to do shit.
#3. you win I will now abide that you are all mighty and are rich and successful, do you feel better now? Do you feel like the keyboard warrior you want to be? Good for you.
Next.

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mrbling

theres no such thing as "Winning" on a message board

I am not flaming you, I am educating you ,

Do you feel flamed on? That is insecurity because you have not achieved success.

Sometimes I like to explain my thoughts on obviously wrong statements, If you can pickup improvements to your life, then all is better.

If you think I am flaming you, you will stay a loser.
Loser with a family of course.

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Thomas1007

ok NO I dont "feel" flamed on, I just dont agree with you.
Your welcome to your opinion about how success is measured, we all have our own. As far as improving my life, it's all good on my end.
I rarely get into a war of words on a board, and forgive me for being so forward but Everyone doesnt have the same outlook as you.
To you I may seem to need "improvements" in my life and standards,
myself I need none. I lead a rich life and enjoy my world, can most 9-5'ers say the same? I doubt it. Have a good day. End of discussion.

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BlackCrayon

but since most posting here are talking about making money as an affiliate promoting websites via search engines, tgp, etc. it really can't be compared to those who are running programs, mailing, doing spyware installs or whatever people do. its comparing apples to oranges.

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MarkMan

mrbling,

you got success down to the dot.

maybe its because .. we have been doing this for a very long time that we think that way.

but being successful is absolutely having 1+Mil in the bank + Stable Outside income from other investments.

mrbling

BlackCrayon,
I am not an affiliate program runner,
I'm just like you an affiliate.
But an affiliate who always scales up.

I use to be the top monopilizer of altavista in 99 where they indexed sites from the submit url within 24 hours and all you had to do was submit all your URLS

Where we created hundreds of thousands of URLS with subdomains keyword-key.domain.com , submitted them at night
indexed 2-3 days later.
100k uniques a day every 2-3 boxes.

Thats where I made my first M.

Then I went into domain investing where I owned over 10,000 domains.

I paid over $60k just in annual domain fees.

I spammed TGP sites with auto submitters back in 2001 where TGSW still wasn't out,
And then switched out 404s when indexed
That made me a pretty penny.

Most of the things you see me doing are maybe 1-2 years before time, where competition was minimal.

And profit was maximest.


I'm just like everybody else, no special tricks up my sleeve.

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Thomas1007

Gentleman I salute you.
Nothing wrong with being ahead of the crowd.
I didnt start in adult until 2001.
I do know in the mid to late 90's there was alot of room for
making $$. Seeing as you both seem to have jumped in then, Congrats.
Im working on my next level of traffic and endevours.
Have a good one.

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BlackCrayon

well then i am impressed. many times when you see someone posting big numbers they are either bullshit or made via more lucrative methods.

i got into the online porn game in late 98 early 99 and was making 10k a month within a short time but it didn't last. instead of making 1000's of sites i just stuck to 2 main sites. i wish i would of gotten into mass publishing more back then but i didn't really know what i was doing all the time. i admire your work ethic, as i was only 20 at the time once i was making good money i didn't work much anymore until my income started getting too low.

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nofx

this thread has been a great read

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sfera

1000 a day? thats nuthin lol

DWB

I never like to discuss how much money make but I knew I was "successful" when money became no longer important. I was making it faster than I could spend it. Add that with love, self worth and happiness... and you my friend are very successful.

mrthumbs

im totally with MrBling again and cant see why everyone is disagreeing.

DWB

I have to disagree with you on some points.

All a millionaire has to do to make a family is shoot his load into some whore dumb enough to stick around after the baby is born. Instant family.

All I have to do to make a lot of money is have a plan, bust my ass and work hard. Making money is easy for some of us, you are obviously one of those people. But it does not stop there.

All of that does not make you successful. Being a millionaire means shit if you are empty inside. If you are not in love or have someone to share it with that you enjoy. You can piss away a million dollars just as quickly as you can make it. So what. If you can not stand to be alone at night or lay in bed with your head spinning without knowing what true peace or ZEN is... wrestling with your personal demons... you have not found success, you have only found money.

Guys like Donald Trump do not mean shit to me. Yea, he may be rich beyond anything I could ever dream of but only he knows in his mind if he is successful at life. Not just business. He may be the most insecure, lonely man on earth. That is not success. That is sad.

GatorB

OK son you're 24 which means you're still a kid in my book. And your attitude shows it. I'm 37, when I graduated high school your were fingerpainting in day care. "experience"? Ha you're barely out of diapers. You talk about the mind processes of "losers" well only "losers" care about how much someone else makes. You think Bill Gates cares what anyone makes? Um no. And compared to Gates, if $$$ is how you messure of success, you my friend are a loser.

mrbling

What does this tell you, do you feel better now you told us how un-accomplished you are after 20 years in the work place?

While other people were partying in college, I partied much less and busted ass to set up myself for life.

Why did I do this?

So I can party a lot more now..


Some people think of what fun they can have now, I always think about what fun I can have in the future.

GatorB thinks he's successful just because he's aged.
Sad really, low expectations.

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mrbling

It is unlikely donald trump is the most lonely man on earth considering he has 3 kids
an ex wife

and a super model as a wife.


There are two kinds of egotistical people.

1) People who have nothing to back it up, are really empty inside. So they have to BULLSHIT to keep up their pride.

2) People who have made a lot of money, became very successful , date super models, known world wide.
Are so full of themselves because they really are so FULL of accomplishments that you are ego tripping every day with SUBSTANCE. Complete euphoria really.
These people don't have to bullshit, they just talk about actual accomplishments and its like amazements.


How can trump ever feel insecure? You only become insecure when you don't have what you or don't know you can actually accomplish things with success.

Not when you have everything you want and you just start bragging because you love to ego trip.

Big Big difference .

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lakroze

I dont know - I'm not successfull webmaster

GatorB

WTF do you know about me? When did I ever mention how successful or not I am? Did I say I am in the "work place"? Last "real" job I had was over 5 years ago. Not that that is any of your business.

Did I say that? You think you're successful because you're a millionaire at 24. If someone bomes a millionaire at 30 or even 50 are they LESS successful than you? As of 2003 there were 2.3 million people in the US that had $1 mil or more so you must be a real loser if you in 2,300,000th place in the "richest people in america" list.

What gets me is your belief if some here are HAPPY with what they are making, just because it's not up to YOUR expectations, they should instead feel bad. WHo died and made you God and I find it sad that the only way you feel good about yourself is to tell others how retared and how big losers they are because they don't meet YOUR expectations.

Hey you are doing great for yourself, that's nice. No one cares, but you. Sorry that bothers you. Why not be happy for yourself and quit trying to make others feel bad so you you can feel more "successful".

DWB

He could have exactly all that and be the mostly lonely man on earth.

I know a guy who has 2 kids, a beautiful wife, millions in the bank, a monster company, great friends... and is one of the loneliest guys I have ever met. To him, what he has is not enough. It never is. He can not simply "BE" and enjoy the moment because he is so caught up in what is coming down the road, the road that he has no real control over. Because of this he is not close to the ones who love him and it shows to everyone but him. He has it all but misses the point. Life is passing him by, he is miserable, and he has it all.

With all due respect, your 24 years old. You may be ballin' out of control and be light years ahead of me or anyone else on the success-o-meter, and I hope you are, but there is more to life that acquiring things, cash and people. The older you get the more you will understand what I mean. At 24 I would of thought the same thing. And I mean no disrespect by that, your mind just changes as you grow older and grow in life experience. My mind today at 33 is not even 2% of the same mind I had at 24. And I am still young. I can't even imagine what I will think at 50 or 80 and how much my priorities will have changed. Life is about the journey bro. With a million dollars or without it, it's all about the journey and who you share it with.

Set your self up for the future. That is a great idea. But you can't call others losers because they have a different persective of what success is. 10 years from now you will also have a different perspective.

TheDoc

2k, 5k, 10k, 100k a month, those numbers don?t mean you are successful. Success is only defined by your own goals, your own PERSONAL goals and not your work or income. Disipline, goals, steady growth, proper budgeting, and making a NET will help you get to your goals, which may help you become successful.

Someone here could make 10k montly, another person can make 5k montly. If the 10k person spends 75% each month on expenses and the 5k a month guy spends 50% in monthly bills because he budgets better, they both will net $2500 a month. Who is more successful?

Having a bad ass house, cars, cloths, jewels, etc.. May mean you have money, but it sure doesn?t mean you are a successful person. Normally these people have LESS NET money, they would rather buy things than invest properly. Being so, this group of high earning high spending people could only survive for a few months or a few years if they lost their business.

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cayne

It's up to you.
First of all it's important to have enough money for your current lifestyle. And than it's open end.

I set a goal to myself, which is 1k/day. I did it already a few times, but I want to make it for a whole month. First 30k usd, and than 30k euro :> (a month)

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cayne

awesome posts @ GatorB - 100% agree.

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RayBonga

mrbling I agree with most of your points (not the one were money can buy you a family, I know alot of fucked up rich families) but why the fuck do you always sound so angry?

You're getting an ulcer by choise.

Anyway I understand and agree with your main point, there's nothing like having money coming in day-in and day.out no matter what you do.

That's real freedom and also my notion of success.