Europeans, Soccer and Racism

[Pipecrew]

Any of you guys watching this "real sports with bryant gumble"

It's about soccer in europe and how they hate black people that play the game. It is showing clips of everytime a black guy gets the ball, the crowd chants like monkeys or chants "niggger"(and not 50 or 100 people, more like
10,000 - 15,000)

Other times they throw bananas, do the hitler salute, spit on the guys.

I cant believe shit like this still happens, especially in a place that is suppose to be a "couple years ahead of the united states"

[Deputy Chief Command]

yes there is racism in football or soccer as you cfall it

but stating that everyone hates black people that play the game is of course bullshit ,

you're dumb to even think this might be truthfull

fact is, its only a small percentage of the fans that are like this ,mostly in Italy ,

[Pipecrew]

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

yes there is racism in football or soccer as you cfall it

but stating that everyone hates black people that play the game is of course bullshit ,

you're dumb to even think this might be truthfull

fact is, its only a small percentage of the fans that are like this ,mostly in Italy ,

They were showing alot in england too, how do you get 20,000 people together screaming that shit, Try that at a detroit pistons game, it will be the end of your life.

[Nembrionic]

DCP is right... EOT

[kmanrox]

in the end does it really matter? the black dudes are making more money per game than those twits make in their lifetimes... who gets the last laugh?

[Matt Collins]

It just seems like at least 50% of Bryant's monthly show is about race in sports. I guess living in the south, I hear about race and racism all the time, and it gets old.

That said, there is tremendous racism in Europe, just look at the French riots, I think that all boiled down to racism and job opportunities based on skin color and religious affiliation.

It ain't just the South!

Matt

[eroswebmaster]

Yeah saw that one a few months back, it was quite surprising.

But then it seems soccer fans have issues.

[jonesy]

i love it when other people from other countries say the US is violent

just watch ANY soccer match from ANY country and witness the violence that ensues between fans and players being attacked. some of the soccer stadiums have concrete walls and 15 foot high fences seperating opposing teams fans complete with swat teams as security and people getting killed.

you never see that shit at any US sporting events.

[Nembrionic]

Originally Posted by Matt Collins

It just seems like at least 50% of Bryant's monthly show is about race in sports. I guess living in the south, I hear about race and racism all the time, and it gets old.

That said, there is tremendous racism in Europe, just look at the French riots, I think that all boiled down to racism and job opportunities based on skin color and religious affiliation.

It ain't just the South!

Matt

pot, kettle, black.

[reynold]

Whatever they say, black race keeps producing great athletes...

[sigurman]

What a stupid conclusion... there are 400 millions of football (soccer) fans in europe and because a few stupid guys are racists you say all europeans are racists?

[UtahSaints]

there's no racism in North america.. never...
I just called Duke..

[-Turk-]

Cry me a fuckin river.

[reed_4]

I did not watched that sports show, but I guess racism is not a big issue in sports. As we all know that there are black atlethes that are really famous and good in sports.

[Violetta]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Any of you guys watching this "real sports with bryant gumble"

It's about soccer in europe and how they hate black people that play the game. It is showing clips of everytime a black guy gets the ball, the crowd chants like monkeys or chants "niggger"(and not 50 or 100 people, more like
10,000 - 15,000)

Other times they throw bananas, do the hitler salute, spit on the guys.

I cant believe shit like this still happens, especially in a place that is suppose to be a "couple years ahead of the united states"

it's fucking wrong!

[KMR Stitch]

Yeah, Ive also read that those soccer matches are a huge drafting ground for new KKK recruits and other Organzations

[cmos]

This thread is so stupid.
There are no more racism in a football crowd then there are in the general population.

[SleazyDream]

wow - that;s fucked up

[KMR Stitch]

Originally Posted by cmos

This thread is so stupid.
There are no more racism in a football crowd then there are in the general population.

You must be stupid. Or never been/seen a soccer game

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

pipecrew

Wheres a good way to get ahold of you.. ?

Sent a few emails to you guys regarding a website selling hacked passwords to adult.com sites in return for signing up to bb and nd sites through his ref code , and didn't get any response..

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Any of you guys watching this "real sports with bryant gumble"

It's about soccer in europe and how they hate black people that play the game. It is showing clips of everytime a black guy gets the ball, the crowd chants like monkeys or chants "niggger"(and not 50 or 100 people, more like
10,000 - 15,000)

Other times they throw bananas, do the hitler salute, spit on the guys.

I cant believe shit like this still happens, especially in a place that is suppose to be a "couple years ahead of the united states"

Happens in 1 out of 100 matches and its not 10-15k but 10-20 people...and yeah, you hear them even in TV, thats not hard in situations when other people are quiet. And throwing babanas and hitler salute? Where do you have this from? CNN?

[NickB.]

Lazio Roma, Italy is the worst one, they had huge flags showing off Mussulini

England, Their top clubs in the premiership all have different races in their teams, pretty much most of them are the best paid ones Its the 1st and 2nd leagues that make it horrible

Holland, Certain supporters from top clubs while playing against other top clubs it happens, Now in Holland they stop the game for it till they stop, best way to deal with it

[gangbangjoe]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

Happens in 1 out of 100 matches and its not 10-15k but 10-20 people...and yeah, you hear them even in TV, thats not hard in situations when other people are quiet. And throwing babanas and hitler salute? Where do you have this from? CNN?

thats right andrej.

there are a lot of fucktards watching this games noawadays but this are exceptions...


but i've seen games where they threw bananas and made the hitler salute.


they threw bananas at oliver kahn ( goalkeeper of bayern munich [a white guy]) because he looks like an ape and beheaves like that sometimes.


and the hitler salute was done by a italian player whose name i can't recall right. he was sued over 10k after the game but said it wasn't the hitler salute but the caesar salute he did because his whole family is from rome

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

and the hitler salute was done by a italian player whose name i can't recall right. he was sued over 10k after the game but said it wasn't the hitler salute but the caesar salute he did because his whole family is from rome

its Di Canio, yeah...but he is the only one who made it since Im watching football...in this thread it looked like a common thing

[je_rome]

just like any other company or institutions. racism is just everywhere

[BlueDesignStudios]

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

and the hitler salute was done by a italian player whose name i can't recall right. he was sued over 10k after the game but said it wasn't the hitler salute but the caesar salute he did because his whole family is from rome

that's a creative excuse

[DutchTeenCash]

weve got there here too in Holland.

But like previous posts said, they got a hold, if they keep singing and shooting racist stuff the game stops. Wonder why they didnt impose that before, its been like this for ages. 10 year or so since they started singing bout Hamass, Jews, Hitler etc Amsterdam vs The Hague or Rotterdam. Horrible.

[reynold]

You just have to ingnore those racists.

[Odin]

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

and the hitler salute was done by a italian player whose name i can't recall right. he was sued over 10k after the game but said it wasn't the hitler salute but the caesar salute he did because his whole family is from rome

Actually that wasn't his excuse. He said he was a proud fascist who admired Mussolini but was not a racist.

"I give the salute because it is from a 'camerata' to 'camerati'," he added, using the Italian words for members of late dictator Benito Mussolini's movement.

"The salute is aimed at my people. With the straight arm I don't want to incite violence and certainly not racial hatred," he said.

To me he seems like a Nationalist who is far-right, but I don't think it is anymore extreme than that. Plenty of Communist inclined people in the media, entertainment and sport in any event. He did not do anything particularly wrong, and it was not a 'Hitler salute'. If members of European parliament can sing 'The Internationale' Communist anthem without any rammifications why can a soccer player not make a fascist salute. You don't have to agree with him, but he was well within his right to do it, and you do have to understand Hitler was not the inventor of Fascist politics.

For those not sure, here is a pic:

[Dalai lama]

The media loves to blow up things. Of course it happens but not as much and as explosive as everyone thinks. They do it to everyone black or white.

[justsexxx]

Lol yeah full stadions doing that stuff? You got it from the American TV?

Just a couple of ppl doing this(100 or so) But yeah still it's fucked up. But it's not because they are "just" black(well for Lazio it has todo with it) But they wanna "hurt" the feelings of players, so he will start playing worse, and their team will win. For example, one soccerplayer had a car accident and killed a person with it. And they were making car noises. When jewish teams play, they make gas noises etc.

And yeah I agree it sucks. But those so called "die" hard fans(which they are not) have a lower IQ, then the goals that are made during a soccer match.

Andre

[Lee]

Its not as bad as it used to be. 25 years ago in the UK it was awful but its pretty much cleared up. If any supporter chants racist abuse now they are invariably caught on cctv, prosecuted, get a criminal record plus are banned for life from football stadiums. That tends to keep them in check.

A lot of the other "major" leagues have ironed it out as well although there are still the odd incidents. Lately it seems to have been more the former Eastern European nations that need to sort it out, along with places like Turkey. The governing bodies of football though will come down harder in the future and in time they will see a reduction in incidences too.

[BT]

Can a cracker get a dollar!

[Dirty Dane]

Overall, I would be more worried about a racistic politician with power than a bunch of drunk loosers.

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Any of you guys watching this "real sports with bryant gumble"

It's about soccer in europe and how they hate black people that play the game. It is showing clips of everytime a black guy gets the ball, the crowd chants like monkeys or chants "niggger"(and not 50 or 100 people, more like
10,000 - 15,000)

Other times they throw bananas, do the hitler salute, spit on the guys.

I cant believe shit like this still happens, especially in a place that is suppose to be a "couple years ahead of the united states"

You have seen it on American tv so it must be true. We all love soccer and all soccerfans are racist. So all Europeans are rascist. Yup.

[Katrina]

Originally Posted by Lee

A lot of the other "major" leagues have ironed it out as well although there are still the odd incidents. Lately it seems to have been more the former Eastern European nations that need to sort it out, along with places like Turkey. The governing bodies of football though will come down harder in the future and in time they will see a reduction in incidences too.

I would like to hear some examples to that

[EviLSuperstaR]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Any of you guys watching this "real sports with bryant gumble"

It's about soccer in europe and how they hate black people that play the game. It is showing clips of everytime a black guy gets the ball, the crowd chants like monkeys or chants "niggger"(and not 50 or 100 people, more like
10,000 - 15,000)

Other times they throw bananas, do the hitler salute, spit on the guys.

I cant believe shit like this still happens, especially in a place that is suppose to be a "couple years ahead of the united states"

It is mostly intimidation. They all just love the black players of their own team but hate the players of the other teams. In Barcelona we insult, shout and spit on Figo, and he is not black.

[go4$]

who give the fuck

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by Katrina

I would like to hear some examples to that

Lol look at how the Turkeys behaved with the match against Swiss.

And they want that with the EU

[Katrina]

Noone wants Turkey in EU, and nobody likes Turkey team.....i wantedto hear examples about Eastern European countries

[The Duck]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Any of you guys watching this "real sports with bryant gumble"

It's about soccer in europe and how they hate black people that play the game. It is showing clips of everytime a black guy gets the ball, the crowd chants like monkeys or chants "niggger"(and not 50 or 100 people, more like
10,000 - 15,000)

Other times they throw bananas, do the hitler salute, spit on the guys.

I cant believe shit like this still happens, especially in a place that is suppose to be a "couple years ahead of the united states"

This is so misleading, this only happens in some countries and definately not 10-15k people.

[Troels]

Originally Posted by Chief

Actually that wasn't his excuse. He said he was a proud fascist who admired Mussolini but was not a racist.

"I give the salute because it is from a 'camerata' to 'camerati'," he added, using the Italian words for members of late dictator Benito Mussolini's movement.

"The salute is aimed at my people. With the straight arm I don't want to incite violence and certainly not racial hatred," he said.

To me he seems like a Nationalist who is far-right, but I don't think it is anymore extreme than that. Plenty of Communist inclined people in the media, entertainment and sport in any event. He did not do anything particularly wrong, and it was not a 'Hitler salute'. If members of European parliament can sing 'The Internationale' Communist anthem without any rammifications why can a soccer player not make a fascist salute. You don't have to agree with him, but he was well within his right to do it, and you do have to understand Hitler was not the inventor of Fascist politics.

For those not sure, here is a pic:

Exactly. The worst thing they can do is fine him, make a big issue of it.

That being said, there is a lot of rascism in Europe. Mostly based on economic and religious fear I would say. But there is some empirical basis for those fears. In most European countries there are huge integration problems with especially the Arab immigrants.

You almost never see any problems with Asian immigrants. Why?

[Odin]

Originally Posted by Troels

Exactly. The worst thing they can do is fine him, make a big issue of it.

That being said, there is a lot of rascism in Europe. Mostly based on economic and religious fear I would say. But there is some empirical basis for those fears. In most European countries there are huge integration problems with especially the Arab immigrants.

You almost never see any problems with Asian immigrants. Why?

Well my personal fear is that European culture and identity will be lost forever. Don't get me wrong, I don't find living in a fascist state appealing (no more than I do a communist state), but I am really beginning to wonder where Europe is heading. When I hear that by 2020 50% of the population of Holland under the age of 18 will be Muslim (and France will soon follow amoung others) it is just unbelievable. Nowhere else in the world could a people be so 'guilt ridden' and self-hating that they would allow such a thing to happen.

[stephane76]

Originally Posted by Troels

You almost never see any problems with Asian immigrants. Why?

euhhh yeah there are..


Amen

[Pipecrew]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

Happens in 1 out of 100 matches and its not 10-15k but 10-20 people...and yeah, you hear them even in TV, thats not hard in situations when other people are quiet. And throwing babanas and hitler salute? Where do you have this from? CNN?

10 - 20 people cannot disrupt a game, it is thousands, i saw the video clips from numerous games.

[Zhiro58]

bad people..

[Roald]

racists @ football games = IQ < 50

[cmos]

In my experience this is only a problem in Italy.

[MetaMan]

have you even gone to a soccer game? or did you just see it on TV and then come post it here? this thread is funny!

[s9ann0]

i don't think its that bad anymore at least in england I been to a few millwall games and I never seen rascism there and they used to have the reputation as one of the worse clubs