How important are trailers on paysite tours? - GoFuckYourself.com

UniqueMovies · 12-28-2005, 08:52 PM

I am building a tour and I need to decide if I need to add trailers for each scene.

I dont want to give away the farm but I hear trailers really help convert.

UniqueMovies · 12-28-2005, 09:08 PM

Fuck somebody must have an opinion about this.. speak up

PornAddict · 12-28-2005, 09:17 PM

I'm certainly no pro on the subject, but on my sites I offer one free trailer (usually of the newest scene). I have good ratios from affiliates, too. This seems to work well for me... not sure about others.

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NoWhErE · 12-28-2005, 09:18 PM

All I can say is that all my clients are extremely with the trailers I've provided them and say that they have indeed greatly helped their sites.

Check out my site for examples of the trailers I've done : www.theguynetwork.com/trailers.htm

UniqueMovies · 12-28-2005, 09:32 PM

What do you guys think of linking the hosted gallery for that scene as the trailer? Meaning every scene in the tour would be linked to the hosted gallery of that scene.

I need to make a hosted gal for each scene anyways so I figured it might help ratios.

UniqueMovies · 12-28-2005, 09:45 PM

I am thinking 1hosted gal per scene on a tour would be giving away the farm but it cant be any worse than a TGP site. lol

MandyBlake · 12-28-2005, 09:48 PM

i run 3 sites and none of them have trailers.
i will probably add one to www.herfirstfatgirl.com sometime though.
i haven't had anyone complain about me NOT having trailers.

UniqueMovies · 12-28-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandyBlake

i run 3 sites and none of them have trailers.
i will probably add one to www.herfirstfatgirl.com sometime though.
i haven't had anyone complain about me NOT having trailers.

Test it for 1month and compare how much better you convert sales.

I hear adding trailers is HUGE but I dont wanna fuck it all up and add too much.

MandyBlake · 12-28-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies

Test it for 1month and compare how much better you convert sales.

I hear adding trailers is HUGE but I dont wanna fuck it all up and add too much.

yeah i'll definitely be keeping an eye on it once i put one up.

PornAddict · 12-28-2005, 10:15 PM

I would think your incoming traffic source would play a major role in if your site needs trailers more than not.

Example...

If a strong number of surfers are coming to your site via hosted movie galleries, then I think you already satisified their lust for movies. At this point, they're scoping out your site to see the variety of women/scenes.

However, if you're getting traffic from other sources that weren't privy to some samples, they may want to see a sample first. Reasons being: to check your quality, shooting style, etc...

To be safe, I'd include something quick yet enticing on the tour.

Personally, I don't like giving out more than 1 trailer on a tour but there are tons of sucessful sites out there that give out plenty more than me and are making insane amounts of money.

Best bet... keep tweaking and see what works best for you.

- PornAddict

Audrey · 12-28-2005, 11:15 PM

Trailers are excellent cock teasers. May be essential to convert a surfer!

Pornwolf · 12-28-2005, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies

I am thinking 1hosted gal per scene on a tour would be giving away the farm but it cant be any worse than a TGP site. lol

A trailer per scene is ok but a full hosted gallery per is going waaay over the line. Don't do it bro.

fris · 12-28-2005, 11:48 PM

trailers are key, and getting a good trailer done is awesome, i like jj's from angelsofporn they are cute.

Violetta · 12-28-2005, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies

Test it for 1month and compare how much better you convert sales.

I hear adding trailers is HUGE but I dont wanna fuck it all up and add too much.

what he said! I have never tried it, but will give it a try once! I'll let you all know

UniqueMovies · 12-29-2005, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

A trailer per scene is ok but a full hosted gallery per is going waaay over the line. Don't do it bro.

I will definately at least try it.

Playa-Deak · 12-29-2005, 12:22 AM

Trailers are essential to a site's success...

bdld · 12-29-2005, 12:29 AM

it depends on the site & traffic, but for the most part, trailers are important and tours should have them. maybe 3 trailers, 1 min each.

webgurl · 12-29-2005, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld

it depends on the site & traffic, but for the most part, trailers are important and tours should have them. maybe 3 trailers, 1 min each.

1min each trailer

That is pretty long so 3mins of trailer on your first page tour

BVF · 12-29-2005, 12:32 AM

I've never had trailers...just a good story and I'm doing fine...But if I did do the trailer thing, I'd go with PornAddict's technique of just having ONE trailer for the newest scene.

UniqueMovies · 12-29-2005, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl

1min each trailer

That is pretty long so 3mins of trailer on your first page tour

Would a tour with more trailers than usualy not be memorable thou?

Meaning they would remeber and comeback to join because they were impressed?

wargames · 12-29-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

A trailer per scene is ok but a full hosted gallery per is going waaay over the line. Don't do it bro.

Very true

Also check out bang bros they have some killer trailers

webgurl · 12-29-2005, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies

Would a tour with more trailers than usualy not be memorable thou?

Meaning they would remeber and comeback to join because they were impressed?

A few trailers is good (nothing wrong with more samples)
but i think if you have one real quality
kickass awesome trailer then one will do just fine

UniqueMovies · 12-29-2005, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl

A few trailers is good (nothing wrong with more samples)
but i think if you have one real quality
kickass awesome trailer then one will do just fine

Well the only way to know for sure is to test it out.. this is the fun part of the biz if you ask me. Marketing rocks!

European Lee · 12-29-2005, 01:34 AM

We've been beta testing 6 movie sites for the last few months, both with and, without trailers and we have found that adding a 20 second trailer to the tour for each 'scene' has increased joins tenfold.

The problem is, as we found out, making sure that you tease these freeloaders just enough in that 20 seconds to make them want to whip out their credit cards to get the good stuff.

We're currently using a 20 second clip consisting of 3 or 4 shots from each scene but we dont shot the money shot, we show right the way up to 1 second before the guy blows his load then flash the site logo and start on the next shot.

Get the surfer so worked up that they think they are gonna see the cum fly so that when you cut off the clip right before it does, they actually NEED to join your site before they can shoot their load themselves

Regards,

Lee

NoWhErE · 12-29-2005, 10:16 AM

actually, I think what you need are trailers ala www.innocenthigh.com

The last 3 trailers were done by me and I hear they are doing great!

sfera · 12-29-2005, 10:41 AM

i notice sites that have trailores but only 1 or 2 good ones do the best and the rest askin to join

yellowmenace · 12-29-2005, 10:53 AM

depends if your content is crappy or not.

Marie · 01-03-2006, 01:57 AM

Bump for a good thread!

Which quality do you set your trailers to? The least quality to make it possible to view for slow-connection viewers, the best quality to show off, or something in between?

RedShoe · 01-03-2006, 03:13 AM

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tokugawa · 01-03-2006, 03:20 AM

Trailers are good, but you have to keep your eye on bandwith.

john77 · 01-03-2006, 03:22 AM

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My opinion is: free trial helps

kmanrox · 01-03-2006, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

actually, I think what you need are trailers ala www.innocenthigh.com

The last 3 trailers were done by me and I hear they are doing great!

jesus fuck, STFU already about your goddamn trailers u make... broke mother fucker

kmanrox · 01-03-2006, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe

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Playa-Deak · 01-03-2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

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RedShoe · 01-03-2006, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

while my instinct says to jump on you like i did NoWhere, you are, from what i understand, the best in the video/editing biz, so i'll be easy on ya ;-)

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Pretty_Lara · 01-03-2006, 03:53 AM

Doing with trailers , doing without trailers and then test ....and post here answer ;)

BAKO · 01-03-2006, 03:59 AM

three trailers per site 30 seconds each thats the best way to go its a total cock teaser

hentaivip · 01-03-2006, 04:12 AM

I think it's important

12-28-2005, 08:52 PM	#1
UniqueMovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,691	How important are trailers on paysite tours? I am building a tour and I need to decide if I need to add trailers for each scene. I dont want to give away the farm but I hear trailers really help convert.

12-28-2005, 09:18 PM	#4
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,383	All I can say is that all my clients are extremely with the trailers I've provided them and say that they have indeed greatly helped their sites. Check out my site for examples of the trailers I've done : www.theguynetwork.com/trailers.htm __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

12-28-2005, 09:48 PM	#7
MandyBlake The one and only! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 17,761	i run 3 sites and none of them have trailers. i will probably add one to www.herfirstfatgirl.com sometime though. i haven't had anyone complain about me NOT having trailers. __________________ Mandy's Playhouse Her First Fat Girl If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921

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12-28-2005, 09:08 PM	#2
UniqueMovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,691	Fuck somebody must have an opinion about this.. speak up

12-28-2005, 09:17 PM	#3
PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	I'm certainly no pro on the subject, but on my sites I offer one free trailer (usually of the newest scene). I have good ratios from affiliates, too. This seems to work well for me... not sure about others. - PornAddict

12-28-2005, 09:32 PM	#5
UniqueMovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,691	What do you guys think of linking the hosted gallery for that scene as the trailer? Meaning every scene in the tour would be linked to the hosted gallery of that scene. I need to make a hosted gal for each scene anyways so I figured it might help ratios.

12-28-2005, 09:45 PM	#6
UniqueMovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,691	I am thinking 1hosted gal per scene on a tour would be giving away the farm but it cant be any worse than a TGP site. lol

12-28-2005, 10:15 PM	#10
PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	I would think your incoming traffic source would play a major role in if your site needs trailers more than not. Example... If a strong number of surfers are coming to your site via hosted movie galleries, then I think you already satisified their lust for movies. At this point, they're scoping out your site to see the variety of women/scenes. However, if you're getting traffic from other sources that weren't privy to some samples, they may want to see a sample first. Reasons being: to check your quality, shooting style, etc... To be safe, I'd include something quick yet enticing on the tour. Personally, I don't like giving out more than 1 trailer on a tour but there are tons of sucessful sites out there that give out plenty more than me and are making insane amounts of money. Best bet... keep tweaking and see what works best for you. - PornAddict

12-29-2005, 12:22 AM	#16
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12-29-2005, 12:29 AM	#17
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	it depends on the site & traffic, but for the most part, trailers are important and tours should have them. maybe 3 trailers, 1 min each.

12-29-2005, 12:32 AM	#19
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12-29-2005, 01:34 AM	#24
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	We've been beta testing 6 movie sites for the last few months, both with and, without trailers and we have found that adding a 20 second trailer to the tour for each 'scene' has increased joins tenfold. The problem is, as we found out, making sure that you tease these freeloaders just enough in that 20 seconds to make them want to whip out their credit cards to get the good stuff. We're currently using a 20 second clip consisting of 3 or 4 shots from each scene but we dont shot the money shot, we show right the way up to 1 second before the guy blows his load then flash the site logo and start on the next shot. Get the surfer so worked up that they think they are gonna see the cum fly so that when you cut off the clip right before it does, they actually NEED to join your site before they can shoot their load themselves Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

12-29-2005, 10:16 AM	#25
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,383	actually, I think what you need are trailers ala www.innocenthigh.com The last 3 trailers were done by me and I hear they are doing great! __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

12-29-2005, 10:41 AM	#26
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	i notice sites that have trailores but only 1 or 2 good ones do the best and the rest askin to join

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01-03-2006, 01:57 AM	#28
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