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Old 12-25-2005, 02:31 PM   #1
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AIDS Vaccine Delayed Due To Corporate Greed?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/condi....ap/index.html


This is just too disgusting.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:35 PM   #2
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Stupid thread title.

Why should private companies risk huge amounts of money without any guarantee that they will profit from it? You aren't fighting poverty in Africa. Does that mean a solution to poverty in Africa is being delayed by your personal greed?
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:24 PM   #3
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Stupid thread title.

Why should private companies risk huge amounts of money without any guarantee that they will profit from it? You aren't fighting poverty in Africa. Does that mean a solution to poverty in Africa is being delayed by your personal greed?

good point, the african countries have already 'stolen' the aids meds that do exsist claming they shouldn't have to pay and make 'knock offs' in their own country . . . this just in: we are not responsible for aids in africa
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:27 PM   #4
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Well of course med companies are scum always have been they are there for taking care of not to cure no money in that. But i'm sick of wasting money on africa until they are willing to help themselves it's wasted money
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:31 PM   #5
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Just forget about Africa already. It's fucked.
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:41 PM   #6
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Is that really a surprise?

Pah leeeeesssse!


Welcome to the truth if it is news to you.
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:45 PM   #7
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damn, that's fucked up
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:07 PM   #8
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I find it funny that we generalize many sociological roles as philanthropic by nature, when they are not.

Maybe an article could be produced as to why Ecomm site owners are not donating enough money and time to research?

Perception is reality but spin is truth when published.
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:20 PM   #9
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good point, the african countries have already 'stolen' the aids meds that do exsist claming they shouldn't have to pay and make 'knock offs' in their own country . . . this just in: we are not responsible for aids in africa
They were absolutely right when they threatened to stop acknowledging certain patents. When your life is in the balance, intellectual property means nothing. When millions of lives are in the balance, intellectual property means less than nothing.
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:50 PM   #10
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if you want to stop aids in africa, why dont you talk to the CATHOLIC CHURCH who have been stopping africans from using condoms over there. this is so irresponsible it is almost criminal. they attempt to stop the distribution of condoms and tell them NOT to use them.

but there is a reason for this right - cos we all know that bit in the bible that says you cant use condoms (commandment 17 i think)... or did jesus say this at some point i just cant remember now.
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:39 PM   #11
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aids is a virus.
you can not develope a vaccine against a virus, it constantly mutates.
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:51 PM   #12
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its sad I hate to say this but they aren't missionaries.
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Old 12-25-2005, 07:01 PM   #13
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aids is a virus.
you can not develope a vaccine against a virus, it constantly mutates.
You are right. Polio vaccine is a myth. Smallpox vaccine is a lie. Flu shots are a hoax. MMR vaccine is just an urban legend.

Sometimes, when you clearly don't know the slightest thing whatsoever about a subject, it's best to keep quiet
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Old 12-25-2005, 07:15 PM   #14
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if you want to stop aids in africa, why dont you talk to the CATHOLIC CHURCH who have been stopping africans from using condoms over there. this is so irresponsible it is almost criminal. they attempt to stop the distribution of condoms and tell them NOT to use them.

but there is a reason for this right - cos we all know that bit in the bible that says you cant use condoms (commandment 17 i think)... or did jesus say this at some point i just cant remember now.
The Vatican isn't telling people to have unsafe extramarital sex. Someone who listens to the pope, and whose partner does so too, is quite unlikely to catch HIV.

The Vatican isn't helping things by discouraging the use of condoms, but the truth of the matter is that people who have condomless extramarital sex stopped listening to the Vatican the moment they decided to have extramarital sex. It's simply ridiculous to believe that the Vatican is responsible for the way in which people do something the Catholic Church completely forbids them to do in the first place.

Of course, the disinformation spread by the Church about condoms is another matter entirely - the pope should be dragged out of the Vatican and shot for telling people that condoms do not protect against HIV.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:08 PM   #15
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You are right. Polio vaccine is a myth. Smallpox vaccine is a lie. Flu shots are a hoax. MMR vaccine is just an urban legend.

Sometimes, when you clearly don't know the slightest thing whatsoever about a subject, it's best to keep quiet
they are not mutating viruses
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:23 PM   #16
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i aint a sciencetist , but from my understanding of the gene code , while some of the strings in the genome do mutate from host to host , the base architecture of the strain remains the same , i mean if it mutated so much that it was no longer the same how could one determine if it is the AIDS virus they are dealing with or something totally different

there has to be some base code that links all the strains together which is most likely what they are targeting , the building block/foundation of the virus

from what i remember from an article i read awhile ago , they haven't really found a vaccine to stop infection , but they have found a vaccine to slow the progression of the virus

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Old 12-26-2005, 12:20 AM   #17
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wasnt there a china developed vaccine just announced a few weeks ago? I thought I read something about it here on GFY. Someone posted a link to the British News source ( I think)
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:32 PM   #18
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they are not mutating viruses
Wrong, as a quick Google search will undoubtedly tell you.

From now on, please don't make any more posts about things you clearly don't understand. Saying the flu doesn't mutate... lol.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:36 PM   #19
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wasnt there a china developed vaccine just announced a few weeks ago? I thought I read something about it here on GFY. Someone posted a link to the British News source ( I think)
They completed the first phase of testing, I believe, meaning that the vaccine won't actually infect people with HIV itself. Two more much extensive and time-consuming phases are needed to see if the vaccine will actually work.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:37 PM   #20
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Lets start a nonprofit drug company and get tons of donations and grants
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:48 PM   #21
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the short answer is that MANY cures, treatments, and preventitive measure are stalled or discarded by corporate greed.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:53 PM   #22
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I'm still trying to figure out how the Vatican came into all of this!
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I'd be in for that.

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Old 12-26-2005, 04:37 PM   #24
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why the hell would you care about aids?
all you do is sit around and jerk off all day.
you afraid of aids from your fleshlight?
ROFL!!!!!!
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:25 PM   #25
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the short answer is that MANY cures, treatments, and preventitive measure are stalled or discarded by corporate greed.
I'm glad you can see the light of day instead of some of these knuckledraggers around here.

With the competition from Asia for rapid and top knotch medical care, you can bet all of a sudden new breakthroughs are gonna come from the U.S. because they don't wanna get caught short.
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:26 PM   #26
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AIDS vaccine research has been long plagued with politics and I'm pretty have a feeling that funds are corrupted.
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Egads!

For profit businesses making decisions based on profitablity.

Truely amazing.
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