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TDF · 12-20-2005, 10:27 PM

prove me wrong

Cory W · 12-20-2005, 10:28 PM

Has been for some time.

brizzad · 12-20-2005, 10:29 PM

in terms of raping white girls or playing basketball?

D-Money · 12-20-2005, 10:32 PM

Cory W · 12-20-2005, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Money

It just isn't the case yet. He doesn't even have a playoff game under him.

D-Money · 12-20-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

It just isn't the case yet. He doesn't even have a playoff game under him.

True, but it's a team game and the question was about the best player.

His team didn't make the playoffs and he's also way better in his 3rd year then his first 2.

It's my opinion he's already the best player in the league.

And I'm a Kobe fan too.

boneprone · 12-20-2005, 10:39 PM

KOBE HAS 62 POINTS ALREADY!! And Its only the end of the 4th QUARTER!

Cory W · 12-20-2005, 10:41 PM

Boneprone. Kobe outscored the entire Maverick team.

Can you pull stats? Has that ever happened in 3 quarters before in history?

TDF · 12-20-2005, 10:42 PM

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KOBE HAS 62 POINTS ALREADY!! And Its only the end of the 4th QUARTER!

kobe is God

Cory W · 12-20-2005, 10:42 PM

Darren, Lebron just hasn't had the opportunities to get the label IMO.

Jordan without opportunities was not the best ever

D-Money · 12-20-2005, 10:44 PM

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Darren, Lebron just hasn't had the opportunities to get the label IMO.

Jordan without opportunities was not the best ever

True.

I just think LeBron is still better then Kobe right now.

But it's close.

Kobe is still the man... LeBron is the King.

Cory W · 12-20-2005, 10:50 PM

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True.

I just think LeBron is still better then Kobe right now.

But it's close.

Kobe is still the man... LeBron is the King.

Have you seen that ESPN commercial where Lebron ask the ESPN guy if he took his chair??? haha

Spunky · 12-20-2005, 10:52 PM

He's on fire for sure..

Mr. Mojo Risin · 12-20-2005, 11:26 PM

Lebron is good, but he hasn't even made the playoffs yet. Kobe is #1 or #2 in the league because of his scoring, defense and clutch shots. It's hard to decide who's the best between A.I., Duncan, Kobe, Lebron. A.I should be the best player if you look at the numbers. A.I. put up gaudy numbers last year and he is again this year, but since his team isn't doing good, he isn't getting the recognition he deserves. It's hard to argue with numbers. #1 in scoring, #3 steals, #5 assists last year.

tristan_D · 12-21-2005, 01:06 AM

not sure if he's the best, but I should say one of the best

Edgey Boy · 12-21-2005, 02:18 AM

I don't know... Lebron has some crazy hops for a young player.. I think if Lebron really wanted to score a ton in games, i'm sure he could.. Kobe is more like a ball hog type player, like T-Mac..

kmanrox · 12-21-2005, 02:22 AM

YOU just say that because he's BLACK!!!!!!!!

oh wait, all the best players are black, my bad....

Jamie · 12-21-2005, 02:26 AM

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prove me wrong

was at the game tonight
he scored 62 pts by the end of the 3rd period, dallas only had 59pts as a TEAM! ROFL!!!

mastermikex · 12-21-2005, 03:09 AM

Ok, some of you say Lebron isn't as good as Kobe because he hasn't made the playoffs yet...well how many times has Kobe made the playoffs without Shaq? Perhaps the Lakers will actually make the playoffs this year, but then so will the Cavs most likely. As for who is the better player, just look at the stats. They basically avg the same amount of points, except Lebron kills Kobe in other stats, while shooting .500. Also, Kobe is pretty much the only offensive option on the Lakers, Odom does shit all. Lebron has Hughes and Z, and he still average 31 pts a game; this is insane for a 20 year old. While Kobe is still an awesome player, Lebron has the edge and he is only gonna get better.

Mr. Mojo Risin · 12-21-2005, 05:26 AM

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Ok, some of you say Lebron isn't as good as Kobe because he hasn't made the playoffs yet...well how many times has Kobe made the playoffs without Shaq? Perhaps the Lakers will actually make the playoffs this year, but then so will the Cavs most likely. As for who is the better player, just look at the stats. They basically avg the same amount of points, except Lebron kills Kobe in other stats, while shooting .500. Also, Kobe is pretty much the only offensive option on the Lakers, Odom does shit all. Lebron has Hughes and Z, and he still average 31 pts a game; this is insane for a 20 year old. While Kobe is still an awesome player, Lebron has the edge and he is only gonna get better.

You have a point, but one can also argue that A.I. is the best in the league when you look at his stats compared to any other player. Last year #1 in points, #3 steals, #5 assists(no ball hog anymore). If it were just stats that made the player(and stats reflect a lot) A.I. should have been MVP last year and he's having a similar season as far as stats. But Kobe is a "winner". I've seen that guy hit clutch shots so many times to win big games and that's one of the reasons why he's one of the best. His D is better than A.I. and lebron also. He made 1st team D team thrice. and 2nd team many times. He's only had one whole year without Shaq, so the argument about him needing Shaq for the playoffs or to win a championship doesn't jive. Also, it wasn't just Shaq he lost, he lost P.J.(he's not back and making a difference vs last year) he lost Rick Fox and Derek Fisher. All these guys were integral to 3 championships. Robert Horry was a big part of those too. Kobe and P.J. were the most important of all IMO. Shaq was a big part of the championships, but that guy is the most overpaid and overrated cry baby in the league. He wasn't satisfied with being the highest paid player in the league, he had to be the highest paid player in the league by leaps and bounds. No way is he worth 28 million a year (twice as much as Kobe). He isn't even the best player on the Heat, Dwanye Wade is, though everybody kisses his ass and he automatically gets up there in M.V.P. voting last year somehow. He's injured half the time too.

Mr. Mojo Risin · 12-21-2005, 05:38 AM

Also Lamar Odom is way to inconsistent scoring wise. He's a pretty good rebounder though, but he's not worth his salary of 11 million this year (only about 3 million less than Kobe).

Vitasoy · 12-21-2005, 07:56 AM

He certainly lit it up against the mavs... dayam

Jennyfer · 12-21-2005, 02:20 PM

Lebron is definitely good but still Kobe is the best!

Anar_j · 12-21-2005, 02:42 PM

Lebron James will be the best, but Kobe is the best for now!

TheWylders · 12-21-2005, 03:08 PM

I fucking hate Kobe Bryant, but you gotta give the man props. I hate it, but I just might have to agree he's the best talent in the league right now.

mastermikex · 12-21-2005, 03:30 PM

Kobe is awesome, no doubt about that, and the top offensive talent along with Iverson. While Iverson is tougher than nails, i think Kobe has a more complete game. However, I think Lebron will eventually blow these guys out of the water. In his second season he avg'd 27-7-7 for gods sake, thats fucking amazing. And this season, while his rebounds and assists are down, his scoring is up and he's shooting over .500, which is just nasty. He pretty much gets the same amount of points as Kobe or Iverson, but has attempted about 200 less shots to do it. He is the only guy probably in the next decade who even has a chance at averaging a triple double every night.

axelcat · 12-21-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mastermikex

Ok, some of you say Lebron isn't as good as Kobe because he hasn't made the playoffs yet...well how many times has Kobe made the playoffs without Shaq? Perhaps the Lakers will actually make the playoffs this year, but then so will the Cavs most likely. As for who is the better player, just look at the stats. They basically avg the same amount of points, except Lebron kills Kobe in other stats, while shooting .500. Also, Kobe is pretty much the only offensive option on the Lakers, Odom does shit all. Lebron has Hughes and Z, and he still average 31 pts a game; this is insane for a 20 year old. While Kobe is still an awesome player, Lebron has the edge and he is only gonna get better.

Kobe is also a first team defensive player, lebron's defense is not that great

FreeHugeMovies · 12-21-2005, 03:52 PM

The best "Ball Hog."

D-Money · 12-21-2005, 04:06 PM

Good arguments for LeBron in here.

The proof will take years.

And Kobe was in the zone last night.

But Lebron isn't as selfish as Kobe, so I don't know that LeBron would have opted to go net as much as Kobe last night, he'd dish it off more.

It's close between the 2 guys, but if you had to pick the franchise player right now, you'd have to think LeBron is the future.

Though Kobe has won it all a few times, experience is good, but people who have never won it all seem to win it all sooner or later as well.

DobermanB · 12-21-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo Risin

You have a point, but one can also argue that A.I. is the best in the league when you look at his stats compared to any other player. Last year #1 in points, #3 steals, #5 assists(no ball hog anymore). If it were just stats that made the player(and stats reflect a lot) A.I. should have been MVP last year and he's having a similar season as far as stats. But Kobe is a "winner". I've seen that guy hit clutch shots so many times to win big games and that's one of the reasons why he's one of the best. His D is better than A.I. and lebron also. He made 1st team D team thrice. and 2nd team many times. He's only had one whole year without Shaq, so the argument about him needing Shaq for the playoffs or to win a championship doesn't jive. Also, it wasn't just Shaq he lost, he lost P.J.(he's not back and making a difference vs last year) he lost Rick Fox and Derek Fisher. All these guys were integral to 3 championships. Robert Horry was a big part of those too. Kobe and P.J. were the most important of all IMO. Shaq was a big part of the championships, but that guy is the most overpaid and overrated cry baby in the league. He wasn't satisfied with being the highest paid player in the league, he had to be the highest paid player in the league by leaps and bounds. No way is he worth 28 million a year (twice as much as Kobe). He isn't even the best player on the Heat, Dwanye Wade is, though everybody kisses his ass and he automatically gets up there in M.V.P. voting last year somehow. He's injured half the time too.

It like saying Magic was not a great player because he never won any ring without Kareem. Magic was still Da PLAYER in his time and so is Kobe. BTW how many rings did Shaq get without Kobe? Shaq has so many good players in his team right now, and you know what? he is not going to win this years. So how good is Shaq without Kobe?

ChewbaCreative · 12-21-2005, 05:26 PM

he's great player, but not the best - Shaq, Al Iverson, J Kidd the great players too
and not a single player wins the ring, but the team did it ;)

The Demon · 12-21-2005, 05:48 PM

In terms of the best in the league he's tied with Iverson and Mcgrady. In terms of pure talent and potential, I think that goes to Vince Carter..

PixeLs · 12-21-2005, 05:50 PM

2nd best player of the week award for this season with impressive scoring stats-- thumbs up for this guy!!

reynold · 12-21-2005, 08:22 PM

62 points or could be more if not for that fag--Yes, Kobe is the man!

reed_4 · 12-21-2005, 11:31 PM

I agree he is one of the best player in the NBA today but still he needs his team to make it to the finals. If only Shaq and the rest who were traded to others were still intact I'm sure they could dominate once more.

Beejeebers · 12-21-2005, 11:44 PM

Two words: Mo Pete.

mastermikex · 12-22-2005, 03:42 AM

Say you could go back in time and pick either Kobe or Lebron for the cornerstone of your franchise. Knowing what Kobe has done so far, would you rather pick him or Lebron? For that matter, what about Carter, AI, Garnett? I would still go with Lebron...i think he has the potential to surpass all of them and will eventually do so.

bdld · 12-22-2005, 04:16 AM

Kobe has 3 rings, the greatest coach in the history of the NBA on his side, and real basketball talent rivaled only by Michael Jordan.

The Demon · 12-22-2005, 07:24 AM

I would pick Garnett over either of those choices considering he is almost as a complete player as Tim Duncan, the best player in the league. If I want my team to win I wouldn't pick lebron nor kobe.

loverboy · 12-22-2005, 09:17 AM

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I would pick Garnett over either of those choices considering he is almost as a complete player as Tim Duncan, the best player in the league. If I want my team to win I wouldn't pick lebron nor kobe.

Garnett has all the talent, too bad, he ain't a complete player without a ring

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12-20-2005, 11:26 PM	#14
Mr. Mojo Risin Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the middle of nowhere Posts: 1,886	Lebron is good, but he hasn't even made the playoffs yet. Kobe is #1 or #2 in the league because of his scoring, defense and clutch shots. It's hard to decide who's the best between A.I., Duncan, Kobe, Lebron. A.I should be the best player if you look at the numbers. A.I. put up gaudy numbers last year and he is again this year, but since his team isn't doing good, he isn't getting the recognition he deserves. It's hard to argue with numbers. #1 in scoring, #3 steals, #5 assists last year.

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12-21-2005, 02:18 AM	#16
Edgey Boy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 76	I don't know... Lebron has some crazy hops for a young player.. I think if Lebron really wanted to score a ton in games, i'm sure he could.. Kobe is more like a ball hog type player, like T-Mac.. __________________

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12-21-2005, 03:09 AM	#19
mastermikex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 301	Ok, some of you say Lebron isn't as good as Kobe because he hasn't made the playoffs yet...well how many times has Kobe made the playoffs without Shaq? Perhaps the Lakers will actually make the playoffs this year, but then so will the Cavs most likely. As for who is the better player, just look at the stats. They basically avg the same amount of points, except Lebron kills Kobe in other stats, while shooting .500. Also, Kobe is pretty much the only offensive option on the Lakers, Odom does shit all. Lebron has Hughes and Z, and he still average 31 pts a game; this is insane for a 20 year old. While Kobe is still an awesome player, Lebron has the edge and he is only gonna get better.

12-21-2005, 05:38 AM	#21
Mr. Mojo Risin Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the middle of nowhere Posts: 1,886	Also Lamar Odom is way to inconsistent scoring wise. He's a pretty good rebounder though, but he's not worth his salary of 11 million this year (only about 3 million less than Kobe).

12-21-2005, 07:56 AM	#22
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Anar_j Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: World Posts: 430	Lebron James will be the best, but Kobe is the best for now!

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TheWylders Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 623	I fucking hate Kobe Bryant, but you gotta give the man props. I hate it, but I just might have to agree he's the best talent in the league right now.

12-21-2005, 03:30 PM	#26
mastermikex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 301	Kobe is awesome, no doubt about that, and the top offensive talent along with Iverson. While Iverson is tougher than nails, i think Kobe has a more complete game. However, I think Lebron will eventually blow these guys out of the water. In his second season he avg'd 27-7-7 for gods sake, thats fucking amazing. And this season, while his rebounds and assists are down, his scoring is up and he's shooting over .500, which is just nasty. He pretty much gets the same amount of points as Kobe or Iverson, but has attempted about 200 less shots to do it. He is the only guy probably in the next decade who even has a chance at averaging a triple double every night.

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D-Money Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Player Del Ray Posts: 9,716	Good arguments for LeBron in here. The proof will take years. And Kobe was in the zone last night. But Lebron isn't as selfish as Kobe, so I don't know that LeBron would have opted to go net as much as Kobe last night, he'd dish it off more. It's close between the 2 guys, but if you had to pick the franchise player right now, you'd have to think LeBron is the future. Though Kobe has won it all a few times, experience is good, but people who have never won it all seem to win it all sooner or later as well. __________________ Still Ballin'

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The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	In terms of the best in the league he's tied with Iverson and Mcgrady. In terms of pure talent and potential, I think that goes to Vince Carter..

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reed_4 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 9,640	I agree he is one of the best player in the NBA today but still he needs his team to make it to the finals. If only Shaq and the rest who were traded to others were still intact I'm sure they could dominate once more. __________________

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12-22-2005, 03:42 AM	#37
mastermikex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 301	Say you could go back in time and pick either Kobe or Lebron for the cornerstone of your franchise. Knowing what Kobe has done so far, would you rather pick him or Lebron? For that matter, what about Carter, AI, Garnett? I would still go with Lebron...i think he has the potential to surpass all of them and will eventually do so.

12-22-2005, 04:16 AM	#38
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	Kobe has 3 rings, the greatest coach in the history of the NBA on his side, and real basketball talent rivaled only by Michael Jordan.

12-22-2005, 07:24 AM	#39
The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	I would pick Garnett over either of those choices considering he is almost as a complete player as Tim Duncan, the best player in the league. If I want my team to win I wouldn't pick lebron nor kobe.