Webmasters have the option of being paid in Ibill stock in lieu of any back monies owed. This is a soliid investment. Ibill could well turn into the next Microsoft.

Check it out IBDI. Only 8 cents a share. If it goes up 2 cents you have made a nice 25 % profit.

:( IBILL CHEATERS BANK!!!!!!! :(


Go CCBILL.....!!

I wonder why they chose March in their payout agreement ? Could it have something to do with Corporate tax records being due in March. My prediction for 2006 is that Ibill will be defaulting on more and more payments thereby maximizing the amount of money that can be stolen and come March they can liquidate Ibill or sell it for a fraction of its worth and walk away, taking with them all the outstanding money ?

One point that Iball's fails to mention is that the only people / companies that have been paid are those who have taken legal action against them. Im talking substantial amounts here not the odd $2-3000 .. SO before they go belly up in March if you are owed reasonable amounts of cash you have about 2 months to get your attorneys motivated or say good by forever..

Are you telling me you know of companirs/people that collected there past due revenue by contacting a lawyer? I was under the impression that taking legal action would only further your problems with ibill by putting these funds into a "dispute" category. Also i havent seen People/Companies Post threads about how they took legal action and got paid.IF they have can you post the links i would like to see what they actually did and how much they got. Thanks :thumbsup

The *only* avenue to go with a debtor who either can't pay or choses to be selective in paying is a lawyer DEA. Yes, there are a number of webmasters who have gone the legal avenue and got specific agreements on payments and also have been paid. On some of these, of course, iBill failed to make payment - however, they will eventually pay otherwise the office furniture gets removed. It's their choice.

There is no "dispute" over funds both parties acknowledge are correct - it's a formality for a judgement.

BTW.. It's not wise to provide specifics on each case on GFY - it can screw the work lawyers are progressing with, but, yes, - there have been and still are a number of webmasters getting paid this way DEA. The sooner ya move on this the better - time is running out! :thumbsup

I never sold vacuum cleaners, but I always did like Kirby. We had one years ago with a saw attachment. Ideal for any housekeeper/carpenters don't you think? :)

dont be cute. address the issues at hand
whats the deal with the payments?

dont feed us any bs. tell us the truth. alot rides on what you say around here, and now is defently not the time for you to take the smart ass roll.

Sad the You & the Company you work for has lied and cheated there clients for over a year now and you come here with smartass comments.You can respond to obvious sarcastic statements but have no time to answer questions on missed payments,note payables and reserves.Laugh now Andrew but come march 25th if IBLL doesnt pay i suggest YOU change your Home address :winkwink: Fun is fun, Jokes are Jokes but fucking with peoples money let alone laughing about it can get you hurt.Capeche? :2 cents:

daaaaaaammmnnnnnnnnn


andrew, how would you feel if you busted your ass at your current job, and at the end of the week they told you.. well.. um.. we dont have your money, but heres what we are going to do

2 weeks from thursday after next, we will give you 10% of what we owe you today. then! 2 weeks after the tuesday after that, well throw you another 20%

but listen. if you quit. then we arent paying you a fucking thing

and then have someone else in the company come up and tell you some smart ass jokes.

honestly drew buddy boy.. how the fuck would you feel?

and something else you might want to consider. you are indeed fucking with peoples livelyhoods. 3 things of any mans you shouldnt ever fuck with
his wife
his family
and his cash

in an odd sort of way, ibill is fucking with all 3 in one fatal swoop. now, you say how the fuck does this have to do with wifey. you dont think that there are plenty of pissed wifes who wanted more for xmas then what they got.

plenty of kids who where counting on dora power mobiles that didnt get them due to not have the $ they where counting on?

and ofcourse the last of the 3. the mans personal accounts.

and you come here with stupid fucking jokes?

dude.. another question and im done.

do you think dea is the only one who is going to want to have a nice long chat with you if/when the settlements dont go through?

for some reason i see caravans full of mob types heading south with screams of "andrew dies" being heard from the windows.

anyways.. take another bs joke and lets all have a laugh together

or murderer :winkwink: People have gone missing over far less money than what ibill owes me. :BangBang:


BTW does your kirby have the woodchipper attachment? Mine does :action-sm

Andrewatibill? Fugeddahboutit :pimp

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The owner of ibill needs to read this thread everyday for 10 years before he goes to bed, that would be a good start!

If (and when) I have information to pass on regarding payments, etc. I do so. For the present I only know what I have been told by the management, and there is no new information (yet).

I was responding to a joke, with a joke. This has nothing to do with business. I understand how people have been frustrated by the issues with iBill, but all I can say is 3 things:

1) The problems are the RESULT of the former owners of the company. The current owners have TRIED (not very successfully so far, but still trying) to 'right the ship' and get everyone paid. It will NOT happen overnight, but we are still confident that it will happen eventually.

2) I don't make decisions regarding who gets paid and when. I try to pass on information as I get it, but I can't pass on information which I don't have, and I won't make up stuff and blow smoke up anyone's...

3) If you email me and do not receive a response, email me again. I ALWAYS respond to emails. If you have another Account Manager I will forward the email to that person. If THEY don't respond, get back to me and I will follow up on it. Do NOT expect an answer with any information in it (at this time) because we don't have any answers for you right now, but you WILL get a response. We aren't ignoring anyone, we simply don't have the answer to your questions. I know it might seem ridiculous to ask you all to be (more) patient, but that is the only thing we can do for now. Everyone here will be ecstatic when we can finally inform our clients that all payments have gone out. I just don't know when that will be.

PS: I never sold used cars either :)

I will suggest it. I would also suggest it for the former owners (and management) of iBill who are now operating another payment processor. I cannot tell you what company, but there are many people here on GFY who seem to be pretty good at getting information, so I leave it up to them to post who they are and what company they are currently running.

Let's put it this way - if you were selling vacuum cleaners there are two distinct advantages.

(a) You'd have a real job.

(b) You'd only have to lie about the degree of suction.


That is obviously much nicer than making and breaking agreements, outright lying, participating in a mass con in an effort to support your crooked employers.

Just curious, did you ever have ethics and moral standards - or did they wash away at the prospect of employment at iBill?

Appreciate your post - hope you don't mind if I quote you, - it's so useful as an example of the general "aura". Thanks! :thumbsup

You forgot to tell us how IBILL will have a booth at Internext for anyone whos interested in getting FUCKED IN THE ASS :moon

You are Due some credit Andrew , before you came along IBILL fucked everyone with no lube whatsoever ! You my good man atleast has the decencey to grease up before mounting us in the brown eye :thumbsup

What the fuck sense does that make?

It means that your email, or my response, may get misdirected, undelivered, or caught in a spam filter. The point is I do NOT throw away emails without a response. If I don't have an answer I try to get one. If I can't get one, I will respond to your email so you know it was received and that I will follow up with more information when I get it.

ahaha

the old "spam filter got your email" tactic

gotcha

so the 100s of unawnsered emails got ate by the spam filter

im guessing thousands of dollars also got ate by this filter. might want to clean the filter guy.

might be just enuff for you to make a fast break outta town once the shit hits the fan

so, can i call you andy or drew?

im brandon incase you havent put that together on your own

tell me this <insert andy or drew here>

do you stick by what ibill is sayin as far as the future goes? the people who made the agreements are going to recive there payments as planned?

Andrew, you guys cannot pay webmasters? Ibill is using webmasters money to pay you a salary? What makes you think webmasters will ever use your useless company, they are not reputable anymore. Have a good one wasting your breath.

are you totally oblivious as to the total damage your company has created? How many have lost homes etc. because of your bosses poor management style? You want us to beleive that it was the past management occupation that was to blame, yet the same techniques of not paying webmasters and advertising venues shows that not much has changed.

bounced checked, unpaid marketing contracts, misuse of funds all added to your and others in your organizations glib and snarky remarks to webmasters as though they are pawns and not to be taken seriously. IBill and yourself should be begging for forgiveness not making fun of comments or give lame excuses on missing emails.

Or do we simply have to realize that IBill and yourself are gasping its last breath - hoping to steal as much money as possible before the lawsuits come to their conclusion, then close down your shop saying to yourself, "if they are dumb enough to keep working with us after we fucked so many for so long, its their fault"

None of it makes sense.

We got this asshole from iBill saying absolutely nothing - apart from email iBill 100 times and "I will respond to your email". You ever had a meaningful email from iBill on any subject???

He can't even keep to agreements he did make - so what's the point? There is not even the slightest attempt to explain the core content in this thread.

The lastest iBill troll is just that - sure ain't in any position to guarantee payments and statements like "Everyone here will be ecstatic when we can finally inform our clients that all payments have gone out" simply illustrate they live in lalaland. This troll has no clue whatsoever as to any real life scenario - it's just yet another of these "forward looking statements" that are part of the iBill and IBDI history.

Why is he here?? Hell knows. It's like communicating with a manatee carcass in Florida - least it had some charm when alive and did not try to fuck everyone around.

Anyone want to take a $10K bet that iBill never ever will pay it's creditors in full?? Na... don't do robberies :winkwink:

Our salaries are paid by revenue from current clients, who are being paid, just like any other processor. The money owed to webmasters is from the prior ownership, and none of that money is even here any more, so it certainly can't be used to pay our salaries. If you really want to know where your money is, ask the people who were running iBill last year when the payments stopped. THAT was your money and you never got it. MY salary is paid from revenue generated by CURRENT clients. Some of these clients never left iBill, some are new clients, and some are clients who came back to iBill and received settlement agreements which WERE paid.

Now, to be accurate, we have not been making payments on settlements for the last 2 months, but this is ONLY on settlements from LAST year. EVERY current client is receiving their payouts this year. We hope to have new payments for old settlements going out again soon, and we also hope to have additional funding for new settlements for other clients who are owed money. We will just have to wait and see.

Familiar pattern on the "losing homes" stuff! :thumbsup

The utter absurdity of iBill ever having fraud family members and their associates as "shareholders" in that company (and IBDI/Penthouse) is beyond a joke.

These are the same scum who defrauded hundreds of people out of their homes to the tune of around $400 mill - plus other "small misdemeanors", - and no doubts we shall be hearing even more shortly.

Can you be quoted on this and you have evidence your salary is being paid out of "current clients"??

Just curious... why would the, as you term them, "current owners" of iBill take over a company that is, in effect, worth nothing??

Another question.... do any officers or shareholders of iBill have any participation, either as shareholders or officers in IBDI or Penthouse?

Enlighten! Who exactly are the the officers and shareholders of iBill that are known as the "new owners" of this defunct company?? Got a URL or list handy??

Dammit! Gone quiet in this thread - especially when it comes to any facts.

You must be busy arranging settlements with iBill creditors and making sure they are being paid? Understand - thats what moving forward is all about.

Yo.. It's time for a revue and find out who today's officers and shareholders are - and all "associations" with other companies. I'll update you so you know as well! :thumbsup

2 questions for you, maybe 3 depending on your answer:

1) Are reserves beign paid out for sales made 6 months ago with the gkard sytem?

2) Ibill made note payable contracts with numerous clients,will ibill pay on march 25th as promised by the "new owners" ?

IF the answers is NO to either of the questions see question 3

3)When Ibill promised last march to, make these back payments , not touch gkard funds <including reserves> and pay gkard on time through symetrexx they must have had some sort of plan or reasoning behind thinking they could do this.What has changed since march of last year for ibill to not be able to stick with there promises and contracts and and now start missing payments AGAIN?

Booger:

One question you may want to add is

Who exactly is gKard and who are the officers and shareholders behind this name and exactly what is the association between iBill and gKard and why was gKard formed and by whom?

Sheesh.. transparency and openness, even on public record data never was a strong point :winkwink:

Another question for Andrew:

Its been widely reported on various media sources that the bulk of the $30 million in webmaster revenues that had been withheld by First Data Corp. after the partnership dissolved back in Sept/'04 - has now been released to iBill.

Yet...it appears as though the bulk of webmasters who were owed money - have not yet been paid.

What is the unknown variable in this equation?

If the funds were supposedly released from First Data - where have they gone?

This is just another bunch of LIES.

We are a CURRENT client conned into signing settlement agreement with Ibill and sending sales until recently.

1. Ibill has NOT been paying ANY gkard reserve money since Oct. 15 to CURRENT clients.

2. Ibill has not made ANY of non-gkard payouts in Dec. to CURRENT clients.

3. You personally have NEVER answered a single email after the settlement agreement was signed.

i think he has been fired LOL

Andrew, my attorney should have contacted your legal department by now.

YOU, got a repayment schedule worked out for me and approved on your end. IBILL agreed UNDER WRITTEN Contract to pay me back on certain dates. I have upheld my end of the agreement and those dates have come and gone. I don't care if you are having issues on your end. You signed a legal document that you would pay me on certain dates, you guys are bound to that. Please pass this along to your boss, my attorney is on this and wont stop till we are paid in full.

Let your boss know that account: a115509 is going to cash in for full very soon.

BTW, let them know that I appreciate being treated like shit after being a LOYAL ibill customer for 6+ YEARS! Also a hurricane KAtrina victim. Thanks for nothing. I will make sure all NEW customers of ibill know how you treat old, loyal customers.

Also, over the years my ibill accounts have generated well over 500,000. Take your 15% from that you guys have easily made over 75K off of me.

They sent us a contract with repayment terms, we signed it and sent it back. Done deal. They missed the first two payment dates. Now my attorney gets to have fun with this.

We are not excepting anything short of full repayment at this point. In my contract it states the money is a loan, and I will be charging ibill an interest rate of 3% on the money, Like any other loan when someone misses a couple payments you can call the whole loan due at once.

Time to collect and get rid of this year and half headache.

Will , did Andrew offer to pay your note payable contract out in installments instead of the march /06 /07 lump sum payouts? IF so how many payments have they missed? Have you had any contact with IBILL or Andrew since the missed payments? If so what were you told? Thanks :Oh crap

Personally I don't give a shit if it was you or the previous owners, as I understand it, it is all basically the same people who own the company anyway.

Also, when the NEW owners offered me a contract for repayment, they assumed the old owners debt, LEGALLY. No questions about it, they provided the terms, and have not followed through. This has nothing to do with the old owners. This is their debt now, and they are not making payments on it.

What standard does this set for new customers. The new owners are not paying me on debts they legally agreed to pay me, period.


you sent me several emails saying my first payment was going out today, it was held up because of the hurricane, i'll have to wait because accounting is gone for the week, my email bounced. For like 2 months you made excuses, and if it wasn't you it was your boss then. Either way someone over there is blowing smoke up my ass and it is getting real hot now.

Just shut the fuck up.

"bump" for andrew

yeah I was suppose to receive 5K within 15 days of signing the agreement with them, which was signed and received back in the end of Sept. Andrew confirmed they received it. I was also suppose to get a payment for Dec that did not show up either.

My advice is to get the "New" owners to work you out a payment plan that you sign and send back to them. That is legally binding for the "new" owners and your lawyer will have a filed day with it. I know mine is. That will be debt the "new" owners will have follow around with them. Even if they go bankrupt, if there is criminal activities we are going to pearce the corperate vail and go after all of them individualy, and I am sure there has been something illegal going on, that wont be hard to prove.

Tired of fucking with them, letting my attorney deal with it.

note to ibill: account: a115509 my attorney will quit when i get paid.

Some (not all) of the First Data held funds were released DIRECTLY TO THE CLIENTS THEMSELVES. None of that money was released to iBill. Clients who agreed to the terms for the First Data release money were paid several months ago. Some who were not paid are still waiting for that money (from First Data), and those who did not agree have not been paid. iBill did NOT receive any of that money.

1. Unfortunately at this time reserves are being held by the merchant bank, not by iBill, and we are pushing to get them released as soon as possible.

2. The 12/7/05 payout (non-gkard) has gone out. The 12/21/05 (non-gkard) payout is delayed. We are hoping it will go out this week.

3. I would email you right now but I can't tell who you are from your GFY name. Send me an email today.