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BigRod 12-19-2005 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mefo
I don't get why people still use them... there are so many better options out there
:thumbsup YUP YUP

rowan 12-19-2005 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentKnight
Up until now, not paying revenues that were owed since last Sept/'04 was a different matter than bouncing cheques (which is what they did with us recently). Not paying is obviously a bad sign, but issuing fraud cheques takes it to a more imminent level IMO.

My advice to everyone at this stage is re-double whatever efforts you are making in attempts to get what is owed to you...before its too late. iBill defended the bounced cheque over the phone with me as "a legal glitch" - an amusing business euphemism.
Holy shit. I remember posting a reply to you, joking about not getting too excited until the check actually cleared... and it BOUNCED? :1orglaugh

Did you start a thread about this? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything recent.

Have they reissued the check?

TheLegacy 12-19-2005 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentKnight
After our recent fun with iBill - at this point I strongly suspect they'll be going under very shortly in the new year.

Up until now, not paying revenues that were owed since last Sept/'04 was a different matter than bouncing cheques (which is what they did with us recently). Not paying is obviously a bad sign, but issuing fraud cheques takes it to a more imminent level IMO.

My advice to everyone at this stage is re-double whatever efforts you are making in attempts to get what is owed to you...before its too late. iBill defended the bounced cheque over the phone with me as "a legal glitch" - an amusing business euphemism.

If you have the financial resources to hire an attorney - do so ASAP. There are lawyers in Florida that will work based on a percentage of the revenue settlement.

Hound iBill mercilessly with daily emails and phone calls. Don't take no for an answer. And as tempting as it is to flare up and start firing a bunch of profanity at them - it won't help your cause. Demonstrate that you're a more professional business person than they are and keep it civil. You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
OMG they bounced the check on you? I hope your taking legal action on this - how idiotic can they be to write a check and figure it would shut people up.. that is such a scam

DEA - banned for life 12-19-2005 03:13 PM
Wonder if they will show up in Vegas?

Screaming 12-19-2005 03:22 PM
Dont use ibill, :2 cents:

bangman 12-19-2005 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DEA
Wonder if they will show up in Vegas?
According to this they are exhibiting.
http://www.internext-expo.com/exhibi...hib_list.shtml

GiantsFan 12-19-2005 03:25 PM
Any word if they will be in Vegas?

B O B 12-19-2005 03:30 PM
let me know if you want me to set you up with a merchant account...

Ill have you processing by Christmas, and paid on time....every time.

SilentKnight 12-19-2005 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLegacy
OMG they bounced the check on you? I hope your taking legal action on this - how idiotic can they be to write a check and figure it would shut people up.. that is such a scam
After the check bounced, they wired the money direct - but only after I wasted another day back and forth on the phone and emailing them constantly.

imageman 12-19-2005 05:00 PM
He is back at Mickey Dees flipping dead animals ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Booger
Wheres is that Andrew@ibill Guy?

SmokeyTheBear 12-19-2005 05:01 PM
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DeadFidel 12-20-2005 09:27 PM
I try and stay away from ibill threads. If they're there (internext; which I doubt) it will be a lot more interesting than the Summer session. They fucked a lot of people within the last few months, a few players included.

Gerco 12-20-2005 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by YNOTBob
let me know if you want me to set you up with a merchant account...

Ill have you processing by Christmas, and paid on time....every time.
Hey check your signup link....

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Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.ynotpayment.com Port 80

andrewatibill 12-21-2005 08:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Booger
Wheres is that Andrew@ibill Guy?
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays

SilentKnight 12-21-2005 08:31 AM
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rml1608 12-21-2005 08:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewatibill
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays
So those of us who expected our twice a month EFTs for $250 - $300 are screwed... Even when we were stupid enough to factor them in to our X-Mas Huh ? I have always kept my mouth shut because i was happy to finally be getting paid for past recurrings (even though you lost 3/4 of my recurring DB by then)... But to pull this shit at X-Mas so you can pass bonuses on to senior management - beyond being cool.

Seriously, that was the money I ws spending on my fiance's X-Mas present.

Not that you guys care much ...

Mr Dickovitch 12-21-2005 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewatibill
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays
Your company is a joke. Your only job is to pay people and you can't even do it. You are thieves and scum and I hope your CEO ends up in Federal prison.

Booger 12-21-2005 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewatibill
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays
For you to come here to update or respond to people with an "FYI" on missed payments speaks for itself. :winkwink:

P.S. You have 3 months to come up with your "Sorry Ibill Cant Pay On Your Note Payable Contracts Right Now,But We Will " Speech :party-smi

Screaming 12-21-2005 10:38 AM
Did you get your payment booger?

Danny939 12-21-2005 10:43 AM
We sued, Ibill paid 5 payments, and now court again
 
Sued Ibill for money owed, Ibill entered into a settlement agreement, Ibill paid 5 monthly installments, and now missed the last payment. Our lawyers have made a motion to get the money per the terms of the agreement.

So whoever Andrew at Ibill is, I can definitely say Ibill's not honoring the terms of the settlement agreement they entered into with us.

Crypt 12-21-2005 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewatibill
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays

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Pornwolf 12-21-2005 12:14 PM
If it were my money tied up someone's legs would have been broken, allowed to re-heal then broken again.

tony286 12-21-2005 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewatibill
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays
I just wrote you please respond.

MickeyG 12-21-2005 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentKnight
did your settlement check really bounce? The same check you were praising them for just the other week?

flashfire 12-21-2005 02:11 PM
why does anyone do business with these guys...the name of the game is getting paid

MWCren 12-21-2005 03:02 PM
Ok, I'll pile on here too. Check the source on the check transaction payouts you guys received late.. it is probably symmetrex. Symmetrex is the "safe and secure" way that gkard transactions are paid. Ibill is sending payout orders to symmetrex for non-gkard payouts... why do you think there was a delay in the 12/15 gkard payout? they spent the money paying check transactions that were to have been paid 11/21. They are digging their own grave. its only gonna get worse.

Claude 12-21-2005 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny939
Sued Ibill for money owed, Ibill entered into a settlement agreement, Ibill paid 5 monthly installments, and now missed the last payment. Our lawyers have made a motion to get the money per the terms of the agreement.

So whoever Andrew at Ibill is, I can definitely say Ibill's not honoring the terms of the settlement agreement they entered into with us.
I entered a settlement agreement with them as well (read: with Andrew) and they are 2 payments short at this time....

:321GFY

imageman 12-21-2005 03:39 PM
The name Ibill is a joke throughout the online world. Everyone knows how they do business and yet people still send them joins. If you lose money with Iball's you only have yourself to blame. Warnings have been posted over the last 2 years on GFY and many other boards ignore them at your peril !!!

Booger 12-21-2005 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flashfire
why does anyone do business with these guys...the name of the game is getting paid
REBILLS !!!!!!!

flashfire 12-21-2005 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Booger
REBILLS !!!!!!!
obviously their business model is broken and they cant keep up with them

John69 12-21-2005 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentKnight
arnt you the guy that posted you were all paid up from ibill?

Webby 12-21-2005 06:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewatibill
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays

Andrew... That is one incredible post and in keeping with the lack of cred in the company you accept a salary from.

You are well-aware iBill has entered into formal agreement for payment of amounts to creditors, but rarely have these agreements been fulfilled.

I'm sure you can find the time to check the board "every day or so". It's a pity you are also too busy to respond to the webmasters who have, in fact, emailed you several times.

FYI ... there is no cred - and never will be.

Webby 12-21-2005 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pornwolf
If it were my money tied up someone's legs would have been broken, allowed to re-heal then broken again.
Couple of questions PW...

How many times they need broken?

You mean them to heal completely before breaking again? That sounds like too long. :winkwink:

Seriously.... there are some folks - forget the Andrew bullshitters - but others who seriously need thrown in a jail cell - but, that's only a matter of time.

precise 12-22-2005 04:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewatibill
I am still here. I am too busy to post often, but I still check the board every day or two, and I will post if I have anything important to tell you.
Just an FYI for everyone.
gkard payout for 12/1 has gone out
non-gkard payout for 12/7 has gone out
gkard payout for 12/15 has gone out
no information on the 12/21 non-gkard payout (it's still too early in the morning)

You can check CMI for details on your payout.

So iBill is current on all payouts for current processing.
We are still working on settlement funding for money owed from last year, but anybody processing with us since March 2005 is receiving their money.

You can still contact me at [email protected] if you have questions.

Happy Holidays
Just in case there is anybody out there new to the Ibill situation.

Anything coming from Ibill, is just another blatant lie:

Neither Dec. 7 or Dec. 21 payouts have gone out.

?Thank you for contacting iBill.

Unfortunately, we currently do not have exact set date as to when
the Dec. 07 and Dec. 21 payout will be sent.

As soon as we have any update, it will be posted on CMI.?


Gkard payouts are never in time, the Dec. 15 one went out on the Dec. 20 and it did NOT include the 10% reserve money withheld in May, 2005.

Same way Nov. 15 and Oct. 15 payout did NOT include reserves kept in March and April.

?Thank you for contacting iBill.

Unfortunately, we were unable to include the reserve payout on the Dec. 15. payout.

We continue to work to resolve this issue as soon as possible.?

Ibill not touching Gkard money is just another lie ? Gkard reserves, as well as non-Gkard moneys, have already been embezzled by Ibill, same way it had always happened before.

Do NOT enter into any settlement agreement with Andrew or any other nonentity there ? it is ALL scam from the very beginning!

To the new webmasters ? AVOID Ibill as a plague, stay away as far as you can, this is a criminal organisation run by criminals with a sole objective of committing crimes.

Now, can anybody recommend a reasonable lawyer, please? Thank you.

SilentKnight 12-22-2005 04:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John69
arnt you the guy that posted you were all paid up from ibill?
Yep...and they bounced the first check.

They subsequently wired the funds direct, but only after wasting another entire day of phone calls & emails - which pissed me off and I'll never be reimbursed for.

Webby 12-22-2005 06:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by precise
Just in case there is anybody out there new to the Ibill situation.

Anything coming from Ibill, is just another blatant lie:

Neither Dec. 7 or Dec. 21 payouts have gone out.

?Thank you for contacting iBill.

Unfortunately, we currently do not have exact set date as to when
the Dec. 07 and Dec. 21 payout will be sent.

As soon as we have any update, it will be posted on CMI.?


Gkard payouts are never in time, the Dec. 15 one went out on the Dec. 20 and it did NOT include the 10% reserve money withheld in May, 2005.

Same way Nov. 15 and Oct. 15 payout did NOT include reserves kept in March and April.

?Thank you for contacting iBill.

Unfortunately, we were unable to include the reserve payout on the Dec. 15. payout.

We continue to work to resolve this issue as soon as possible.?

Ibill not touching Gkard money is just another lie ? Gkard reserves, as well as non-Gkard moneys, have already been embezzled by Ibill, same way it had always happened before.

Do NOT enter into any settlement agreement with Andrew or any other nonentity there ? it is ALL scam from the very beginning!

To the new webmasters ? AVOID Ibill as a plague, stay away as far as you can, this is a criminal organisation run by criminals with a sole objective of committing crimes.

Now, can anybody recommend a reasonable lawyer, please? Thank you.
You live in the US or elsewhere?

Lawyers are like mosquitos precise - ten a penny, and just takes time briefing them well to do a decent job on a simple debt recovery process. You live within the US precise?

As a matter course, the Attorney General's office in Florida would like to hear from aggrieved iBill clients and any others who have a claim - also below is the direct line for lodging a complaint to the FTC.

Attorney General
Florida
Tel 866-966-7226.

FTC
http://www.ftc.gov
Direct Phone Complaints:
Tel 877-382-4357

Obviously the chances of actual debt recovery is diminishing by the month. It always takes longer than you would think.

Apart from what is known to webmasters and other creditors, there is plenty info existing "externally" - here's an old syndicated article from Lawrence Kiminski. The relevant part is the footnote at the bottom.

http://www.oregonherald.com/n/specia...pany-fraud.htm

There are obviously other eyes on iBill, IBDI, the present and past officers and the "I'm-only-a-shareholder" motivators in these companies.

adultchica 12-22-2005 06:50 AM
makes me VERY glad I've never done business with Ibill!!!

Violetta 12-22-2005 06:54 AM
I love Ibill... they really know how to fuck up! :(

26MLR 12-22-2005 07:05 AM
Just shows what can happen when a processor loses their merchant account.

CCBill may be headed down the same path.

Ramster 12-22-2005 07:53 AM
Someone needs to step up and sue these fuckers. They are crooks. And now they are spending all YOUR money on a booth in Vegas.

SOMEONE SUE THEM!

Anyone processing with them still is doing it for the money they are obviously owed but sooner or later you will get fucked out of it. So drop them and take the loss now on your terms before they simply bend you over and fuck you when you might need it.


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