crooks always have it coming.

Just an FYI for Everyone...Including Andrew & IBILL !

Neither Dec. 7 or Dec. 21 payouts have gone out.

?Thank you for contacting iBill.

Unfortunately, we currently do not have exact set date as to when
the Dec. 07 and Dec. 21 payout will be sent.

As soon as we have any update, it will be posted on CMI.?


Gkard payouts are never in time, the Dec. 15 one went out on the Dec. 20 and it did NOT include the 10% reserve money withheld in May, 2005.

Same way Nov. 15 and Oct. 15 payout did NOT include reserves kept in March and April.

?Thank you for contacting iBill.

Unfortunately, we were unable to include the reserve payout on the Dec. 15. payout.

We continue to work to resolve this issue as soon as possible.?

Ibill not touching Gkard money is just another lie ? Gkard reserves, as well as non-Gkard moneys Go From IBILL to Symetrexx <atleast thats what they say on the phone when you ask why they missed there payments>


HAPPY HOLLIDAYS ANDREW @ I-BULL :321GFY

Ibill is one of the leading payment processors and I for one am tired of all the negativitiy here. Be happy that you received partial payments.

They are relocating to a smaller office so there will be more money for you in the future. Plus new webmasters are signing up every day when they here the crazy rates they charge at IBill.

if they have fucked before why some people still use them?

I am all paid up

got my Dec 15 wire

Are you actually a big boy now or is Mom still breast feeding you?

Grown up and behave and stop uttering utter crap.

If you are tired of webmasters failing to be paid - that's a pity. Take it up with your friends at iBill.

You claim to have extensive knowlege of iBill in past thread and now in this post. How many "new webmasters" are signing up every day and what exactly are the "crazy rates they charge at iBill"? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Get back to work - quit claiming you are in any way a webmaster, - and tell your office colleages they need to find jobs where they can have some dignity.

Its rather blatantly obvious you just don't seem to comprehend much.

Every time you jump in and throw your ridiculous .02 cents in unfounded support for iBill...you generate a littany of negative responses. You claim you're "tired of all the negativity" - but you become the flash point for a lot of the controversy with your unqualified support.

You say you're tired of the negativity. Oh woe is you. That's so sad. Do you think your weariness even remotely compares to the disappointment and hardship suffered by those who haven't been paid the money owing to them?

You say "people should be happy for a partial payment". That ranks among the most utterly foolish and senseless things I've seen written here on GFY so far. Its obviously a statement made by someone who hasn't gone through the financial trials and tribulations of dealing with iBill for the past 16 months.

And finally - you say they're relocating to a smaller building so there will be more money available to pay out. Hello? Court documents illustrate iBill was kicked out of their previous location by the property owner for failure to pay the lease. Plug that in to your equation and tell us again how this downsizing of location is going to provide additional funds to pay webmasters.

But that said, undoubtedly you'll either ignore or dismiss all the above points and instead simply continue bleeting your support of iBill with threadbare rhetoric and statements that reveal your complete ignorance of the facts.


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(Mohammed Saed al-Sahaf...loves ya' baby)

Tired of the negativity? They owe me $1000's from sales and rebills from 2004. I emailed Andrew and he basically told me too bad, that money is gone unless you want to negotiate something to get you part of it. But I am a lowly affiliate so I cannot negotiate for my money. It is up to the companies I promoted and those companies moved their processing fast to someone else. Smart on their part for not going along with the extortion tactics but they ended up losing money and so did I.

It is iBill that collected it and stole it. So instead of spending OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY on booths, hotels, airfare and whatever else pay up.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE NEGATIVE :321GFY

EDIT: Double post for some reason.

GCARD is not owned by ibill they said, all GCARD funds are hold by GCARD and not touched by IBILL they said. Well, as of today, IBILL owes me $8000 for 2 pay periods, plus $2000 for holdbacks due me 3 months ago, plus $10,000 from last year. FUCK YOU IBILL FOR FUCKING UP MY CHRISTMAS AGAIN, FUCK YOU IBILL FOR NOT ANSWERING MY FUCKING CALLS AND EMAILS. I WILL SEE AT THE INTERNEXT EXPO In VEGAS, AND IM GONA MAKE A FUCKING SHOW OUTA YOUR MOTHERFUCKING LYING ASSES. may god curse you and everyone who works for you!!!

Motherfucking IBILl waited all year then added all the chargebacks into my two last checks. Had they told me about chargebacks, I would have budgeted to make up the diffrence, but insted, they took 90% of my money in charge backs. At the same time, they owe me for holdbacks that is due for October, November, and December. when I asked about this on december 1st, I was told they will pay it with my December 15th check to make up for the chargebacks they took. Well, where is it? I made $6000 in sales for the 15th period, I got a check on the 21st for $400. Where is my holdback? why didnt you pay me? No answer from IBILL. They are quick to take what we owe, but slow to pay us what is owed. FUCK YOU IBILL FOR FUCKING UP MY CHRISTMAS AGAIN. FUCKING IBILL FOR LYING TO ME OVER AND OVER. I for one, lost all faith in you and your motherfucking company. Im now left with no money to run my motherfucking site nor any money to pay my bills or buy my kids anything for Xmas. FUCK YOU IBILL AND FUCK ANYONE WHO EVER DOES BUSINESS WITH YOU AGAIN.

samo... they are lying again with claims gKard is not "owned" by iBill. Or, let's put it this way - it's a matter of which side of the desk the corp paperwork happens to be today.

gKard is another Galanis (of the "scam people out of their homes" and "let's make some drugs" family) operation - and the same asshole claimed to be "just a shareholder" in iBill, but is also a "shareholder" in IBDI. Galanis, along with the Mexican Doc were two prime motivators in screwing iBill in the first instance.

Sorry to hear about your bullshit with them.

:1orglaugh They are still in business?

After reading these posts, I feel bad for the people who trusted Ibill. If it is true that they were forcibly evicted from their offices, that tells me Ibill is a sleazebag operation.

I cannot defend a company that deliberately lies and rips people off.

Ibill should do the honorable thing and cancel any appearance at the Vegas convention where they will be partying it up every night.

The wire from the 12/15 came in some days ago and the wire from 12/21 came yesterday.

What's this thread doing on page 2?? :winkwink:

Was that a BUMP??

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

wonder why you still us them?

For those saying they have rebills stuck in IBill and thats why they send new transactions - get your data out!

Within the first weeks of IBill problems more than a year ago, we got our data from them imported to CCBill :thumbsup

That's what a smart person would have done.....now with the new staff they have though, not sure you'll have any luck to get them to give it to you :disgust

I know everyone is jumping all over you but come on...be happy with partial payments? this is not my hobby its my career...you know puts food on the table and a roof over my head. Think their might be a little negativitiy if a company decided not to pay their workers...or sorry bank I cant pay my mortgage this month but maybe I'll get you next month

100 ibills

Webmeister is a troll, he will say anything to get you pissed off. He swings back and forth between being pro-ibill and anti-ibill. Look up some of his first posts, initailly he was against Ibill suddenly he was pro-Ibill. Whatever makes you reply to his posts, he will say it. Good thing is that he keeps bumping the Ibill threads

Why do people continue to use them if they are known to not pay, i never understand that, they come here and bitch and moan about it, why dont you just stop using them.

No Respomse from Andrew@I-Bull on his bullshit post full of lies

Just wait until March when everyone who signed one of there Note Payables contracts get Fucked !

I do not reply to posts on GFY on a regular basis. If you want a reply you will need to send me an email ([email protected])

and wtf is with all these chargebacks over the last few months.

Understand Andrew! Thanks for the full explanation of the staffing arrangements.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=1#post8914684

It's just the more relevant concerns that obviously need your attention. Boring details like creditor payments, broken agreements and email selectively ingored.

Nevermind... we can't all be perfect.



PS.. Wonder how Rodrigo is these days?

:1orglaugh
Funny how you posts lies in this thread about IBILL being up to date with current payments when you know the reserves arent getting paid and the bi-monthly check payments are falling behind. Then when confronted with this you say you dont respond heer and then post your email address.
Andrew your post dont matter ,Your replies dont matter your a low level employee thats being used by IBILL, you know what your told and thats it .Even worse you say what your told to say :winkwink:

How long were you selling Kirby Vacuum cleaners door to door before you came across the IBILL offices? :1orglaugh

That was just another lie, Mr. Andrew F. Smith.
You only reply to emails to trick people into the scam settlement agreement.
You NEVER reply once the agreement is signed, same as Ibill never pays.
We are in the processes of talking to attorney now.
Will see if we can press charges against you personally as well.

Andrew, MArch 26th the day after IBILL is supposed to pay on there contracts is 3 months away.Do you think you can fit in some 'GFYresponse' time that day if we request it now? :winkwink:

<snicker>

Ibill should be out. They have NO credit.
Anyway, i keep receiving a few small wires from them...I am not even checking if the wire values are correct, since I lost my faith in Ibill a long time ago...

I am waiting for this March Payment as well, should i hold my breath ?

The funny thing about this whole thing where they say you need to start processing with ibill in order to get paid is, well... aren't the rebills from your past sales making ibill money? Haven't those rebills been making them money all along (while you haven't been getting paid at all)...?

Whatever.

No one in their right mind should be going back to ibill for processing. This appears to be one of the grossest mismanagement situations I've ever seen in this business. Webmaster's money should be untouchable, and should be sent out to the webmaster first, on-time, every time, PERIOD. There never should have been a situation where there were owed funds like this.

Shameful. Let's see who stays afloat in 2006.

yeah hold your breath..and at the same time i suggest you wipe your ass with your Note Payables Contract ..its worth about as much as the air you breathe :2 cents:

Bump for another Christmas Day ruined by iBill's gross mismanagement.

Figured as much, i will have to try the lawyer route i guess. :mad:

Much better to have a good lawyer.

Out By April.