But what does that have to do with the guy breaking the terms of his bail?

You'd think, with that much $$$ on the line to be lost, that he would have followed the conditions of his bail to the letter!

Regards,

Lee

Tough issue here as although I think it is dumb to thumb your nose at a court order, it is still a free speech issue.

I think the biggest issue is the hypocricy of our government. Aren't our troops "fighting for our right to freedom"? I think I hear that everyday from someone in our government defending the war. How the Iraqis were so supressed to express their views on Saddam, life, or just about anything in Iraq. Apparently we aren't too far from where Iraq was.

The most baffling thing is the word obscen. Who is it to determine what is obscene? I don't consider porn, or real life images of soldiers being killed obscene. I consider rich business owners (Enron) stealing retirement funds from employees for profit obscene. I find preaching religion for a God we don't even know exists and looking down on those who don't believe obscene. I find sending hundreds of thousands of our young men to a war based on lies obscene.

Lets be honest about our country. We aren't much better than these countries we thumb our nose at about free speech. It is free speech, but only for those who fit a certain mold. If you aren't a supporter of a conservative, religous belief, your opinion is not only unwelcome, but in some cases criminal. Valerie Plame found this out, Chris Wilson is finding this out, and I'm certain many other Americans have found out about our "free speech".

The news articles state:

"However, the State Attorney's Office (Read it as "Jeb Bush's Chief Law Enforcer",) last month filed a motion to revoke Wilson's bail because he continued to operate the Web site and to post new pictures on it following his arrest."

However, the article states that this was not the case:

"Mooney also argued that because Wilson moved to Orlando after he was released on bail, he was not violating Polk County law by running his Web site while living in another county.

And after Wilson's arrest, no one from the Sheriff's Office told Wilson to stop running his Web site or to stop posting any materials on the Web site, Mooney said."

The webservers are in Amsterdam.

Anyone with a realistic sense of how the judicial system works would know the risks of continuing to operate that website after the government has a case pending against you for alleged obscene material.

Ever tried fighting a speeding ticket against a police officer where you knew you were in the right? Does justice always prevail? No one in the legal system will have sympathy for a porn webmaster. **Especially in that county. You play with fire, you get burned, its really that simple. I don't think its right, but we choose our own destiny by the decisions we make.

Fucking old white people suck donkey cock.

thank you ! My sentiments on the subject, not that I feel that the Polk county lynch mob is in the right whatsoever with the original charge.The whole thing is politically motivated from way higher up.

OK, granted, Chris is trying to save his ass.

Does that mean we, as a group, should do nothing to help him?

Next time anybody has a legal problem, should the adult internet community STFU and say "he is just trying to save his ass" and do nothing?

Where would you draw the line between help and no help?

sorry to hear that

Yeah! wait....I'm fucking old white people :winkwink:

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I do not think it would not be within the authority of the Sheriff's Office to tell him to stop running his Web site or to stop posting any materials on the Web site. It is not within the autohority of the Sheriff's Office to revoke his bail or to officially call for the revocation of bail.

Charges are not brought by the Sheriff's Office...they are brought by the Prosecutor. Bail is not set and/or the conditions of bail are not set by the Sheriff's Office. Bail is set by a Judge and the conditions of bail are set by a Judge...and the judge may follow recommendations of the Prosecutor if the Prosecutor requests conditions be placed upon the granting of bail.

Thus I have to assume that conditions of bail were placed upon the defendent by the Judge and very possibility at the recommendation of the Prosecutor.

The Sheriff's office cannot revoke bail...but the Sheriff's office could have informed the Prosecutors Office that he was violating the conditions of bail and the Prosecutor then, after verifying this, would bring him before the Judge and present his case that the defendant is in violation of the conditions of bail.

Bottom line is...he apparently violated the conditions of bail.

Bottom line is....his free speech is being run over. Sorry. It'll all come out later....rather than everyone get themselves in a foam about it. Just watch what happens. No need to fight. Have faith and support what you think is right.

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dude... its fine to say "hey, this guy needs help. he made a few mistakes. but this could possibly affect us all" - i would agree with you to some extent. what i object to you tellling me that he is fighting for me, on my behalf and your constant mischaracterization of the circumstances and facts to incite fear... and always following it up with "please send money to..."

:2 cents:

It will be determined at trial if "his free speech is being run over" and not until then. It is apparent that in this county the law of "community standards" will be applied. The Supreme Court has previously ruled that "community standards" are legally applicable.

I found it interesting that the orders to put Chris in jail came from the State Attorney, ie. Jeb Bush's chief Law Enforcement Officer. Think there is any relation there to GW's popularity problems.........No way :1orglaugh

I bet the whole problem for Chris started in the State Attorney's office and Polk County is just the local enforcers. Time will tell. I can imagine something like this going on:

I can hear GW on the phone now calling his brother.

ring, ring:

Jeb: Hello, Gov'ner Mansion. Jeb speakin'.

GW: Hello, Jeb.

Jeb: Hi, George, Hoz'it in the White House? Is Dick still makin' us a ton of money skimmin' contracts in Iraq. I hope he remembers to put plenty in my account so I can run for President in 2008. We gotta keep a good thing goin'!

GW: That's why I'm callin', Jeb. Thing are gettin' a little hot, and I'm not sure we can steal enough votes to get you elected if my popularity keeps going down. It's gettin' really bad, and I'm workin' really hard. This war isn't goin' the way Dick and Rummy said it would.

Jeb: I'm doin' all that I can, George. I got Republican poll watchers in all lined up for the Black and Jewish neighborhoods. I also got a shitload of new Diabold votin' machines on order and we know how good they are.

GW: Yeah, yeah, that is good, Jeb. But, I need a favor. There is this guy down in Polk County that has pictures of dead Iraqiis on his website, and he is just gettin' too popular. People are seein' all those dead people and gettin' upset. They are talkin' about it and it is hurtin' my numbers and your future presidential election possiblilites. He's got nekkid people on the website, too! I think I'm gonna cry....(sniffle).

Jeb: Dont cry, George. I know! I'll have my State Attorney General give a call over there and see what we can do. If I remember, that Sheriff don't like nekkid people and we got a mean ass judge. He can't see so good, but, he sees well enough to know 'nekkid' when he see 'nekkid'. I'll get on it like a duck on a junebug, George.

GW: Thank you, Jeb. Mom likes it when we work together. I'll see you at Christmas at the ranch and we can chop some wood. Bye

Jeb: Bye, George.

My thought is....that his attorney will move it up. His attorney is a smart cookie...he knows what he is doing.

Have faith people....this is democracy at work. period.

Which, i presume, is why he was told he'd be 'safe' if he kept his site live and moved out of Polk.. Yep, thats the kind of attorney i'd want representing me if something like this ever happened :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

You have to be one of the dumbest people to ever post here.

Respectfully

Lee...what the fuck are you talking about? You have no idea the bigger picture here....it's ok...Chris doesn't need your support anyway...

The bigger picture of what?

Some dude broke the terms of his bail, his bail got revoked.

Im not seeing any bigger picture with any of that?

Take 'porn' and 'obscenity' out of the equation, replace it with 'child porn' or 'rape'.

Do you people still think this hypothetical rapist or child pornographers first ammendment rights are being broken?

Some of you people really dont have a clue when you are being herded in to parting with your money.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with free speech, the first amendment or anything else on the same level.

This is about someone breaking the terms of their bail, nothing else.

Regards,

Lee

This is a prior restraint of free speech. Don't try to confuse the issue with real crimes. He is not accused of any crime other than offending some religious group. He has not been convicted of anything and they are trying to broadly stop him from exercising his constitutional right to free speech.

The government is acting unconstitutionally here.

As far as him trying to "save his ass", that exact same thing could be said of Larry Flynt in his fights where he furthered the free speech rights of all Americans.

If you have a problem with offending the government, take a look back at the way that Flynt tried to piss off the government back when he was under attack.

European Lee,

The Polk County court system is rigged, and Chris' legal problems are about First Amendment Rights, Prior Restraint, and due process.

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it; but, I feel your view is rather myopic.

"We get the government we deserve..."

Well that's because Lee is retarded.

You are correct, there WAS/IS a prior restraint of free speech.

However, THAT isnt what caused the guy to have his bail revoked.

The REAL crime is that he disobeyed a court order.. Period

That is why he is back in jail and being soddomized by Bubba and his buddies for Christmas.

If he followed the conditions of his bail, he'd still be a free man.

Regards,

Lee

If you are correct then there is not a problem with him easily winning the case at trial...now is there?

You are wrong.

The obscenity charges are about first amendment rights, havin' his bail revoked is about him being a moron and not doing what a court ordered him to.

They are 2 completely different things, granted, the 2nd item (Bail revocation) is connected to the 1st item but, had he done what he was told by a judge, the 2nd item wouldnt even be an issue right now, thats my point.

Regards,

Lee

Eww..dude, You are throwing out garbage here..seriously...THIS IS ABOUT THE MANS FIRST AMENDMENTS RIGHTS.

Look beyond your own personal shiit. Your own sense of security and above all, you own narcissasism and see the bigger picture. All that I ask.
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It too appears to me that you are 100% correct...although I have not been able to find an article that speaks to the conditions of bail the Judge imposed.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Take a guess at how many US citizens have their bail revoked each and every day.

If was a first ammendment issue, do you really think we wouldnt have heard about it before now?

So far, the only people defending the clown in this thread are defending him beause of his obscenity charges which yes, i agree they are BS however, he fucked himself by breaking the conditions of his BAIL, that is why he is back in jail right now, not because of the obscenity stuff.

Regards,

Lee

He apparently is currently in jail at this point for one reason and one reason only. He did not abide by the conditions of bail that he agreed to.

One of the links posted in this thread (i think) earlier said that one of the conditions was that he couldnt maintain the site (or something like that).

Im sure Rob will be happy to post any links he has on hand though :)

Regards,

Lee

That you would head that last post with 3 laughing mouths says a lot about you. Lee..you really don't have a clue and I'm not going to even post to you anymore on this.

The only information that I have read states that the Sheriff's Office did not tell him to shut his site down and/or post more images to his site. As I have pointed out this would not be within the authority of the Sheriff's Office. This would be within the authority of the Judge only.

I know you are too fucking retarded to understand things like most adults but please quit spouting this shit or show where in the fuck it was said that he specifically can't maintain his website.

"Prosecutors are asking a judge to revoke bail for Christoper Wilson because his adult pornography Web site continues to operate.

Wilson is required to "refrain from criminal activity" while out on bail and his Web site is illegal, the State Attorney's Office alleges in court documents filed this week."

"Copley maintains that by continuing to operate the Web site and by allowing new images to be downloaded, Wilson is breaking the law."

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...511300341/1134

Now, does that fucking look like he was specifically told not to run his site asshat? They are saying that his site is ILLEGAL and that because he is still running it he isn't refraining from criminal activity. Only problem is his website hasn't been proven illegal yet. You are a 100% certified fucking moron.

Even if he will eventually win in court, he should not be sitting in jail if his only crime is offending right wingers.

What if they charged you with the "crime" of free speech and threw you in jail while awaiting a trial - would you feel better knowing that you would eventually be found innocent?

How many months of his life did Larry Flynt spend in prison before he was vindicated?

No one on GFY should be supporting government attacks on free speech.

And the fucking kicker

"Although Wilson no longer lives in Polk County, the State Attorney's Office thinks that running that Web site is illegal and therefore Wilson is violating his bail conditions, according to Chip Thulberry, the state attorney's spokesman in Polk County."

If you can't see a fucking problem with this something is seriously wrong with you.