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andrej_NDC 12-14-2005 08:58 AM
someone give me back the 5 minutes I just wasted

RogerV 12-14-2005 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee
Ok, from my point of view the parties dont mean shit. I live in a remote part of the UK and in all likelihood will never travel to a party in the USA or wherever they are held (even Amsterdam is too far lol). The promos on boards dont mean shit as I dont live my life on them and am never quick enough to get post number 101 or whatever it is anyhow. So in that respect all the points you mentioned about giving back wont benefit me and I really dont see it as being as beneficial to the community as say the defendants in the Acacia saga.

All said and done though I will probably knock up some galleries for your program because the bonus structure you have implemented is a form of giving back (but to me). I will know after one or two submits if its worth going for the bigger bonus or whether that traffic would be better pointed towards my regular sponsors.
Great post like I said before I am totally understanding now.. thanks for giving us a try.

It wasnt really about me because my sponorships etc are small compaired to most. it was also about being part of the industy but i get your point.

I'm sure those who defended the acacia saga didnt get much love from the community either :2 cents:

RogerV 12-14-2005 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by David - PG
Why the hate Roger? Makes it so easy for great programs like yourself to take over the industry and gain market share.
Its not about the hate trust me.. I dont really care this thread wasnt suppose to be about me. but many probably thought it was. when it got personal I responded that way.

But now I understand Ive been wasting my time and money in many ways :2 cents:

I'm not going to stop just slow it down alot.. and this thread was more for my entertainment than anything else but informative at the same time.

I have seen the light :pimp

RogerV 12-14-2005 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pipecrew
http://www.bangbusdvd.com/39.jpg


Yeah i got to meet up with the PG crew a while ago, great guys, they know the industry well, they started by running gay free sites.

This whole thread is just a major backfire, if you read the whole thing you can see how many times it has been contradicted and just a publicity stunt "we convert better then them, let me prove it to you" blah blah. Let your product speak for you.

Trust me this did not backfire lets get real :1orglaugh I wonder why you took it so personal to begin with? I never once mentioned any names

David - PG 12-14-2005 10:03 AM
By the way, here is what happend when I asked pipecrew if he could send me a free IPod for Xmas

http://home.arcor.de/twisted_mind/Pics/bitchslap.gif

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Mr. Jim 12-14-2005 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Of course:)

Hit me up. No one is buying shit as they scramble for Internext and Chrismas.
can you call me in my office this morning...

RogerV 12-14-2005 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by David - PG
By the way, here is what happend when I asked pipecrew if he could send me a free IPod for Xmas

http://home.arcor.de/twisted_mind/Pics/bitchslap.gif
when I asked them if there is any biz we can do I got the same result :1orglaugh

RogerV 12-14-2005 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chadglni
Umm sponsoring parties is the last thing most of us give a shit about. You do realize more webmasters never go to shows than those that do right?

www.clickcash.com and you couldn't make me quit promoting them, hell I'd say you couldn't pay enough for me to even consider it. ;)
when you can afford to go to a show I'm sure you will.
for now how much to whore our sig?

bhutocracy 12-14-2005 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienQ
All of Them.

They make a brunt of the money and have the advantage concerning conversions and payouts. They tend to have Ferrarri's, Lambo's and what the latest bragging gadget is as status symbols. While the ones that made them can barely feed themselves.
The designers, the content producers and coders are all raped in the process.

Depressing?

But thats the reality.
? When the designers, producers and coders put 100k on the table to gamble with then they can whinge about not getting high returns. It's risk/reward.. if your price is $600 per tour then there is no risk.. you get your $600. If you think thats unfair save up 50k or something and risk your lifesavings as an investment instead of being service based... It's not rape when you say "yes".

Theres also no reason that any of the service based guys can't get big by worrying about their own business and hiring people to work for them. You can't be a one or two man show and then complain about not feeding yourselves. Take a risk.. borrow some money.. hire some employees.. bring more money in.. use your skills in mainstream where they don't have access to cheap foreign labour blah blah.

David - PG 12-15-2005 05:04 AM
Basically what Alien was saying was that everybody who is in a business for profit... is evil because they feed off of the slave work of others. Wait, that sounds familiar

http://www.graphicwitness.org/contemp/marxtitle.jpg

CamRabbit 12-15-2005 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RogerV
what programs never give back by sponsoring party's at the shows or do contest on the boards etc.

what programs just take from the community and are not part of it or care to be?

Personally I would never do biz with them :2 cents:
You are an idiot.

Board contests are for broke sig whores and real webmasters don't give 2 shits about parties. They care about making money - not posing around juicylinks style.


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