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SilentKnight · 12-13-2005, 12:10 AM

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MrAwesome · 12-13-2005, 12:17 AM

Alex, the point im trying to make is this.. yes a man took the lives of several people, but at least he tried to teach people that it is wrong to do so, and that in his efforts he really was effective. I dont condone that he took the lives, and i do agree that it was wrong and deserves a maximum punishment, put should the punishment be death? why? i really do believe there are people who desrve death for there crimes, its just that in this case, i think someone who can do more good alive than dead should not be killed in revenge.

i honestly think he can do more good alive than dead, when he is dead all it will do is fade faith in people who looked up to him. Faith that these people look towards to stay stright and avoid crime.

Raf1 · 12-13-2005, 12:20 AM

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I dont give a fuck how many countries you live in, weather or not Tookie was a founder of the crips he didnt have a lot to do with helping it grow. We need a world with less people like him. There is not one positive aspect to keeping him alive. And why the fuck do you care in the first place, it doesnt effect you or anyone you know directly or indirectly.

Like I said earlier in this topic, I don't really care about the guy. I was just interested in seeing what people think about the point of his execution.
It's not like he isn't being punished and from what I hear, he might help some kids stay out of gangs. It's just a matter of what's more important to you: Revenge for other peoples deaths or saving the lives of people that could get affected by gang related crimes or join one.
As I said earlier I'm not an expert when it comes to "Tookie". I just read a few articles and saw the movie about him, so I'm not sure how his books really affect children. However it's pretty obvious that you don't get nominated twice for the nobel prize without having done something positive...

Doctor Dre · 12-13-2005, 12:20 AM

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1200am pst. from what i hear.

i think they should have public executions in stadiums like in rome.

You can entretain people that way ... hopefully they won't get lazy like rome's peep did ;)

Alex · 12-13-2005, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrAwesome

Alex, the point im trying to make is this.. yes a man took the lives of several people, but at least he tried to teach people that it is wrong to do so, and that in his efforts he really was effective. I dont condone that he took the lives, and i do agree that it was wrong and deserves a maximum punishment, put should the punishment be death? why? i really do believe there are people who desrve death for there crimes, its just that in this case, i think someone who can do more good alive than dead should not be killed in revenge.

i honestly think he can do more good alive than dead, when he is dead all it will do is fade faith in people who looked up to him. Faith that these people look towards to stay stright and avoid crime.

What you don't understand is that I and countless others beleive this whole thing is a sham. If you were on death row and you knew you had a chacne to live by writing some books, you know sure as hell you would.

The fact is i dont want to grant clemcny to a murder, and then have to pay 60k a year to keep him in jail. Based on his use and logic. The 60k we spend to keep him alive can be put to use to actually stop gangs and violence. He serves no good whatsoever alive.

MrAwesome · 12-13-2005, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Raf1

Like I said earlier in this topic, I don't really care about the guy. I was just interested in seeing what people think about the point of his execution.
It's not like he isn't being punished and from what I hear, he might help some kids stay out of gangs. It's just a matter of what's more important to you: Revenge for other peoples deaths or saving the lives of people that could get affected by gang related crimes or join one.
As I said earlier I'm not an expert when it comes to "Tookie". I just read a few articles and saw the movie about him, so I'm not sure how his books really affect children. However it's pretty obvious that you don't get nominated twice for the nobel prize without having done something positive...

was nominated 5 times, fyi ;)
cheers

Raf1 · 12-13-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MrAwesome

was nominated 5 times, fyi ;)
cheers

I see the number has gone up since the last time I heard about it

Alex · 12-13-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Raf1

. However it's pretty obvious that you don't get nominated twice for the nobel prize without having done something positive...

For all i care that award is a sham.

http://nobelprize.org/peace/laureate...rafat-bio.html

If Yasser Arafat, a man who supported terrorism against Israel and is responsible for way more deaths than Tookie can be awarded this prize, then its not worth anything.

EDIT: And no matter how much of an idiot you are, please don't tell me you disagree with me on this.

MrAwesome · 12-13-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

What you don't understand is that I and countless others beleive this whole thing is a sham. If you were on death row and you knew you had a chacne to live by writing some books, you know sure as hell you would.

The fact is i dont want to grant clemcny to a murder, and then have to pay 60k a year to keep him in jail. Based on his use and logic. The 60k we spend to keep him alive can be put to use to actually stop gangs and violence. He serves no good whatsoever alive.

60k a year is nothing to the goverment, do you honestly think that 60k a year is worth more than what he can for children who may join gangs, no offense to you alex, you seem narrow minded and only think of the "now" when its the long term effect he can have as a positive person on all the young minds

Alex · 12-13-2005, 12:29 AM

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60k a year is nothing to the goverment, do you honestly think that 60k a year is worth more than what he can for children who may join gangs, no offense to you alex, you seem narrow minded and only think of the "now" when its the long term effect he can have as a positive person on all the young minds

I dont see any long or short term effect.

Since Tookies and imprisonment and book writings, the number of gangs has still been increasing at a large rate. The number of members and the amount of violece has too.

You have failed to show any positive effect.
And i would ahte to have a convicted murder have any kind of infulence over young minds.

have you read these books, or the people taht he dedicates them to?

Raf1 · 12-13-2005, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I dont see any long or short term effect.

Since Tookies and imprisonment and book writings, the number of gangs has still been increasing at a large rate. The number of members and the amount of violece has too.

You have failed to show any positive effect.
And i would ahte to have a convicted murder have any kind of infulence over young minds.

have you read these books, or the people taht he dedicates them to?

what do you expect?? There is no way in the world that his books (or those written by other inmates) could stop the number of gang members to increase. If he convinced a few kids to change their thinking and do something positive with their lives, then it is worth keeping him alive. I'm not sure if he has done that, but I believe he has.

MrAwesome · 12-13-2005, 12:35 AM

hey alex, ive got a toga party starting soon (no its not a save/kill tookie party), its my wifes bday, but if you wanna discuss this on icq tomorow or something hit me up. 315241194, cheers

your entitled to your opinion, and im entitled to mine, lets leave it at that

cheers man and have a good night

Alex · 12-13-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MrAwesome

hey alex, ive got a toga party starting soon (no its not a save/kill tookie party), its my wifes bday, but if you wanna discuss this on icq tomorow or something hit me up. 315241194, cheers

your entitled to your opinion, and im entitled to mine, lets leave it at that

cheers man and have a good night

I am glad you see it that way.
But in less than 30 minutes he dies and there will be no need for this convo to continue.
What timezone are you in BTW?

MrAwesome · 12-13-2005, 12:39 AM

vancouver island, pacific time, yeah he dies in 20 mins here as well, good night bro

cheers
MrAwesome

Alex · 12-13-2005, 12:40 AM

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vancouver island, pacific time, yeah he dies in 20 mins here as well, good night bro

cheers
MrAwesome

Good night.

12-13-2005, 12:17 AM	#52
MrAwesome Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 898	Alex, the point im trying to make is this.. yes a man took the lives of several people, but at least he tried to teach people that it is wrong to do so, and that in his efforts he really was effective. I dont condone that he took the lives, and i do agree that it was wrong and deserves a maximum punishment, put should the punishment be death? why? i really do believe there are people who desrve death for there crimes, its just that in this case, i think someone who can do more good alive than dead should not be killed in revenge. i honestly think he can do more good alive than dead, when he is dead all it will do is fade faith in people who looked up to him. Faith that these people look towards to stay stright and avoid crime. __________________ CraftCannabis

12-13-2005, 12:35 AM	#62
MrAwesome Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 898	hey alex, ive got a toga party starting soon (no its not a save/kill tookie party), its my wifes bday, but if you wanna discuss this on icq tomorow or something hit me up. 315241194, cheers your entitled to your opinion, and im entitled to mine, lets leave it at that cheers man and have a good night __________________ CraftCannabis

12-13-2005, 12:39 AM	#64
MrAwesome Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 898	vancouver island, pacific time, yeah he dies in 20 mins here as well, good night bro cheers MrAwesome __________________ CraftCannabis

12-13-2005, 12:10 AM	#51
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