When did you learn that Santa was a fake? - GoFuckYourself.com

dropped9 · 12-07-2005, 09:50 AM

I kind of figured it out when I was like probally like 10 or so... I think... I just figured it out that there was no way in hell he could make it to everyones house in one night...

You?

One of my fond memories of being a kid around christmas time was when I was being a big brat and shit on christmas eve and hearing someone knock on the door and go ho ho ho... My mom told me "See, Santa is checking his list".... Boy did I straighten my act out that night...

Later on they told me it was one of their friends doing them a favor to help calm me down...

I must of been like 5 or 6 at the time...

hahahaha

Abithefiend · 12-07-2005, 09:52 AM

I was 9 or 10..my sister found all the presents in the attic and decided to be a bitch n tell me! Before then Christmas was oh so magical...

CDSmith · 12-07-2005, 09:52 AM

He still comes to *my* house. :D

who · 12-07-2005, 09:52 AM

Lying to children is wrong on so many levels. Look how fucked up it makes people.

xclusive · 12-07-2005, 09:52 AM

Stop telling stories or no santa for you

TDF · 12-07-2005, 09:53 AM

when you stopped comming down my chimney

dropped9 · 12-07-2005, 09:54 AM

Here's another story... One of the last christmases my younger brother still believed I made an outline of a sled and its runners on our porch with a hockey stick. I also man reindeer foot prints with the but of the hockey stick... it looked so fucking awesome... I wish I took pics...

I even ate all the cookies n milk.... hahahaha

I cant wait to do things like this for my kid!!!!!!!!!!11

dropped9 · 12-07-2005, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDF

when you stopped comming down my chimney

Fuck you punk.

seeric · 12-07-2005, 09:54 AM

he's not real??

WTF?

12-07-2005, 10:02 AM

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN BY FAKE?????

SteveLightspeed · 12-07-2005, 10:04 AM

Fake? Well that's just ridiculous! Next you'll be telling me that the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and sologirl sites that do 100+ joins/day are fake too!

I refuse to believe it!

Steve Lightspeed

Mr. Jim · 12-07-2005, 10:06 AM

Santa is not fake I saw him stumbling out of a strip mall sports bar n El Segundo drinking wine in a bag....

Dynamix · 12-07-2005, 10:07 AM

I'm not sure when I first found out, but I'll never forget when I was a kid and we'd turn on the radio to find out "where santa was last seen".. they had that santa radar from Norad, and I was always anxios to see if he was seen in my city lol..

http://www.noradsanta.org/

sumphatpimp · 12-07-2005, 10:12 AM

I saw mommy blowing Santa Claus!

LaurieX · 12-07-2005, 10:16 AM

I was 8 and I was sooo bummed when I found out I cried for hours. Oh and how in the hell could anyone believe that a life size rabbit delivered baskets full of candy to everyones house in one night?

Wiggles · 12-07-2005, 10:17 AM

i think i was about 6 or 7, i just figured it out on my own, dunno why, just did.

Kick Ass Chat · 12-07-2005, 10:19 AM

Santa is Real !!!, stop all this santa is fake stuff.

Furious_Male · 12-07-2005, 10:20 AM

7. I remember I heard it from some older kids but I didn't believe them. I was getting ready for school and kept bugging my mother for the truth. She finaly told me. Needless to say I got on the bus with tears in my eyes that day. I was a wuss.

WebairGerard · 12-07-2005, 11:14 AM

You telling me Santa's a fake???

CDSmith · 12-07-2005, 11:22 AM

Back in the early 40's about 1000 soldiers were in an auditorium for an assembly right before Christmas. The commander spoke, and asked "Who here believes in Santa Claus, raise your hand"
My uncle Reg was in the crowd, and raised his hand along with maybe a few dozen other guys. The commander then announced "You men who have your hands raised stand up...."

He along with the other few dozen soldiers who said they believed in Santa were each given a 3 day pass so they could go home for Christmas.

True story.

amandaspost · 12-07-2005, 01:34 PM

I think I was either 7 or 8 when I figured it out.

Jennyfer · 12-07-2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Back in the early 40's about 1000 soldiers were in an auditorium for an assembly right before Christmas. The commander spoke, and asked "Who here believes in Santa Claus, raise your hand"
My uncle Reg was in the crowd, and raised his hand along with maybe a few dozen other guys. The commander then announced "You men who have your hands raised stand up...."

He along with the other few dozen soldiers who said they believed in Santa were each given a 3 day pass so they could go home for Christmas.

True story.

Nice story, Smith!

dropped9 · 12-07-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Back in the early 40's about 1000 soldiers were in an auditorium for an assembly right before Christmas. The commander spoke, and asked "Who here believes in Santa Claus, raise your hand"
My uncle Reg was in the crowd, and raised his hand along with maybe a few dozen other guys. The commander then announced "You men who have your hands raised stand up...."

He along with the other few dozen soldiers who said they believed in Santa were each given a 3 day pass so they could go home for Christmas.

True story.

That rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MandyBlake · 12-07-2005, 02:36 PM

i can't remember a time in my life when i actually really thought Santa was coming. For as long as I can remember, i knew Santa was my mom.

Part-timer · 12-07-2005, 05:26 PM

Ahhahaha..this dude is fun, he claims that Santa is fake!

reynold · 12-07-2005, 06:37 PM

Wtf, Santa is Fake?!

adultchica · 12-07-2005, 06:39 PM

Guess I was 10...I was a true believer until my teacher told the whole class he wasn't real.

redfalcon · 12-07-2005, 07:34 PM

Why is Santa Claus called Santa? It should be Santo, shouldn't it? Just like Santa Maria and Santo Nino.

I dont believe in Santa Claus but I believe in Christmas

phogirl69 · 12-07-2005, 07:40 PM

I always knew he was fake even when i was 5 or 6, for some reason i was a very precocious child and already knew what was up, i was always cynical of the world already as a kid, i never had my innocence... Hmmm, I don't know why, perhaps i was one of those super smart kids???

sickkittens · 12-07-2005, 07:41 PM

My older brother told me when I was young. So cruel.

reynold · 12-08-2005, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redfalcon

Why is Santa Claus called Santa? It should be Santo, shouldn't it? Just like Santa Maria and Santo Nino.

I dont believe in Santa Claus but I believe in Christmas

They got it from the patron saint's name itself St. Nicholas...

dropped9 · 12-10-2005, 07:53 AM

bump bump

Basic_man · 12-10-2005, 07:56 AM

WHAT ???????? Santa is fake ???????? MOMMYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!

NoCarrier · 12-10-2005, 08:01 AM

We all knew people would reply the lame : "WHAT?! It's a fake!??!" comeback.

I just didn't expect 20 replies like that..

I expect at least a couple more.. Amazing how people do not read threads.

XxXotic · 12-10-2005, 08:02 AM

I kicked a puppy right after I clubbed a few baby seals

tonton · 12-10-2005, 08:08 AM

when i started to get money on my xmas stockings every year.

Vitasoy · 12-10-2005, 08:32 AM

When I yanked on santa's beard when I was like 6?

poorwebmaster · 12-10-2005, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless

You?

HEY! Santa's not REAL?!?!?!??!

bliket · 12-10-2005, 09:09 AM

this is totally ot, but I clicked the previous guys sig... and whoa:

What I'd do to fuck her....

Violetta · 12-10-2005, 11:51 AM

No known species of reindeer can fly. But there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not completely rule out flying reindeer, which only Santa has ever seen.

There are 2 billion children in the world (persons under 18). But since Santa doesn't (appear to) handle Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, or Buddhist children, that reduces the workload by 85% of the total--leaving 378 million according to the Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there is at least one good child per house.

Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stocking, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household, a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding, etc. That means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, at tops 25-30 miles per hour.

The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming each child gets nothing more then a medium sized LEGO set (2 lbs), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting the "flying reindeer" can pull TEN TIMES that normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine--we need 214,200 reindeer. This increased the payload--not even counting the weight of the sleigh--to 353,430 tons. Again for comparison, this is four times the weight of the HMS Queen Elizabeth.

353,000 tons travelling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance. This will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecrafts re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy per second, each. In short, they will burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and creating a deafening sonic boom in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa meanwhile, will be subject to centrifugal forces of 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250 lb. Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by a 4,315,015 pound force. In conclusion, if Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas eve, he's now dead.

Spunky · 12-10-2005, 11:52 AM

At a very young age..like 5

escorpio · 12-10-2005, 11:56 AM

Santa fake?

TAKE IT BACK YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tricksy · 12-10-2005, 12:31 PM

No way that Santa is fake!!! I saw him couple of times :-))))

PornAddict · 12-10-2005, 02:21 PM

I will never forget the day I found out it was all a scam.

That Christmas, I got a whole bunch of Star Wars toys. One of them was the big ass Millenium Falcon. Of course, it was from "Santa". Later that night, all of my aunts and uncles were over (I have a big ass family and we all get together on Christmas).

I was walking upstairs when I overheard my mom talking to her sisters about how she bought me this big spaceship and how it was so expensive and it doesn't even do anything. I sat there thinking to myself, "What do you mean YOU bought it?". That's when I knew I've been played all those years.

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Peaches · 12-10-2005, 02:58 PM

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Babagirls · 12-10-2005, 03:06 PM

when i was in 3rd grade. all my girl friends made fun of me for thinkin he was real

(((((((((((

pornguy · 12-10-2005, 03:32 PM

He is not fake you big meany! and the next time I see you in the sand box, I am going to throw sand at you, and run like hell.

baddog · 12-10-2005, 03:34 PM

12-07-2005, 09:50 AM	#1
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	When did you learn that Santa was a fake? I kind of figured it out when I was like probally like 10 or so... I think... I just figured it out that there was no way in hell he could make it to everyones house in one night... You? One of my fond memories of being a kid around christmas time was when I was being a big brat and shit on christmas eve and hearing someone knock on the door and go ho ho ho... My mom told me "See, Santa is checking his list".... Boy did I straighten my act out that night... Later on they told me it was one of their friends doing them a favor to help calm me down... I must of been like 5 or 6 at the time... hahahaha

12-07-2005, 09:52 AM	#3
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	He still comes to my house. :D __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

12-07-2005, 09:52 AM	#5
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12-07-2005, 09:53 AM	#6
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	when you stopped comming down my chimney __________________ Sig heil

12-07-2005, 10:04 AM	#11
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Fake? Well that's just ridiculous! Next you'll be telling me that the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and sologirl sites that do 100+ joins/day are fake too! I refuse to believe it! Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

12-07-2005, 09:52 AM	#2
Abithefiend Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jim's my daddy Posts: 756	I was 9 or 10..my sister found all the presents in the attic and decided to be a bitch n tell me! Before then Christmas was oh so magical...

12-07-2005, 09:52 AM	#4
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Lying to children is wrong on so many levels. Look how fucked up it makes people.

12-07-2005, 09:54 AM	#7
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	Here's another story... One of the last christmases my younger brother still believed I made an outline of a sled and its runners on our porch with a hockey stick. I also man reindeer foot prints with the but of the hockey stick... it looked so fucking awesome... I wish I took pics... I even ate all the cookies n milk.... hahahaha I cant wait to do things like this for my kid!!!!!!!!!!11

12-07-2005, 09:54 AM	#9
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	he's not real?? WTF?

12-07-2005, 10:02 AM	#10
Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN BY FAKE?????

12-07-2005, 10:06 AM	#12
Mr. Jim Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,372	Santa is not fake I saw him stumbling out of a strip mall sports bar n El Segundo drinking wine in a bag....

12-07-2005, 10:07 AM	#13
Dynamix G F Y not Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MN Posts: 2,910	I'm not sure when I first found out, but I'll never forget when I was a kid and we'd turn on the radio to find out "where santa was last seen".. they had that santa radar from Norad, and I was always anxios to see if he was seen in my city lol.. http://www.noradsanta.org/ __________________ TGPFactory Full TGP Design & Installation Services ICQ 250 142 484 · AIM TGPDynamix · Email: patrick (at) tgpfactory (dot) com See who I am at AdultWhosWho.com!

12-07-2005, 10:12 AM	#14
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	I saw mommy blowing Santa Claus!

12-07-2005, 10:16 AM	#15
LaurieX Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,541	I was 8 and I was sooo bummed when I found out I cried for hours. Oh and how in the hell could anyone believe that a life size rabbit delivered baskets full of candy to everyones house in one night? __________________ [email protected] ICQ# 81820905 Aim LaurieX THE BANNER YOU ARE TRYING TO RUN IS CAUSING ERRORS FOR EVERYONE ON GFY. PLEASE CORRECT IT!!!

12-07-2005, 10:17 AM	#16
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	i think i was about 6 or 7, i just figured it out on my own, dunno why, just did. __________________ no sig

12-07-2005, 10:19 AM	#17
Kick Ass Chat Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,057	Santa is Real !!!, stop all this santa is fake stuff. __________________ [email protected]

12-07-2005, 10:20 AM	#18
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	7. I remember I heard it from some older kids but I didn't believe them. I was getting ready for school and kept bugging my mother for the truth. She finaly told me. Needless to say I got on the bus with tears in my eyes that day. I was a wuss. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

12-07-2005, 11:14 AM	#19
WebairGerard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 8,113	You telling me Santa's a fake??? __________________

12-07-2005, 11:22 AM	#20
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Back in the early 40's about 1000 soldiers were in an auditorium for an assembly right before Christmas. The commander spoke, and asked "Who here believes in Santa Claus, raise your hand" My uncle Reg was in the crowd, and raised his hand along with maybe a few dozen other guys. The commander then announced "You men who have your hands raised stand up...." He along with the other few dozen soldiers who said they believed in Santa were each given a 3 day pass so they could go home for Christmas. True story. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

12-07-2005, 01:34 PM	#21
amandaspost Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,935	I think I was either 7 or 8 when I figured it out.

12-07-2005, 02:36 PM	#24
MandyBlake The one and only! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 17,761	i can't remember a time in my life when i actually really thought Santa was coming. For as long as I can remember, i knew Santa was my mom. __________________ Mandy's Playhouse Her First Fat Girl If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921

12-07-2005, 05:26 PM	#25
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12-07-2005, 06:37 PM	#26
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Wtf, Santa is Fake?!

12-07-2005, 06:39 PM	#27
adultchica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: usa Posts: 5,141	Guess I was 10...I was a true believer until my teacher told the whole class he wasn't real. __________________

12-07-2005, 07:34 PM	#28
redfalcon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 164	Why is Santa Claus called Santa? It should be Santo, shouldn't it? Just like Santa Maria and Santo Nino. I dont believe in Santa Claus but I believe in Christmas

12-07-2005, 07:40 PM	#29
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	I always knew he was fake even when i was 5 or 6, for some reason i was a very precocious child and already knew what was up, i was always cynical of the world already as a kid, i never had my innocence... Hmmm, I don't know why, perhaps i was one of those super smart kids???

12-07-2005, 07:41 PM	#30
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12-10-2005, 08:01 AM	#34
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12-10-2005, 08:02 AM	#35
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12-10-2005, 08:08 AM	#36
tonton Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 87	when i started to get money on my xmas stockings every year.

12-10-2005, 08:32 AM	#37
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12-10-2005, 09:09 AM	#39
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12-10-2005, 11:51 AM	#40
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	No known species of reindeer can fly. But there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not completely rule out flying reindeer, which only Santa has ever seen. There are 2 billion children in the world (persons under 18). But since Santa doesn't (appear to) handle Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, or Buddhist children, that reduces the workload by 85% of the total--leaving 378 million according to the Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there is at least one good child per house. Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stocking, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household, a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding, etc. That means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, at tops 25-30 miles per hour. The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming each child gets nothing more then a medium sized LEGO set (2 lbs), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting the "flying reindeer" can pull TEN TIMES that normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine--we need 214,200 reindeer. This increased the payload--not even counting the weight of the sleigh--to 353,430 tons. Again for comparison, this is four times the weight of the HMS Queen Elizabeth. 353,000 tons travelling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance. This will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecrafts re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy per second, each. In short, they will burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and creating a deafening sonic boom in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa meanwhile, will be subject to centrifugal forces of 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250 lb. Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by a 4,315,015 pound force. In conclusion, if Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas eve, he's now dead. __________________ M&A Queen