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|  12-08-2005, 01:22 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  Personal Observation I have to admit, I was thrilled at the news today of the mentally disturbed idiot running through the aisle of an airplane shouting that he had a bomb - having been shot dead by air marshalls! Imho it sometimes takes extreme measures like that to instill in people's minds the gravity of their own personal responsibility to conduct themselves in accordance with established laws, rules and regulations. So what if he was mentally disturbed and his wife was shouting he was off his meds - it was their responsibility to make sure that never happened - especially onboard an airplane. I have no sympathy for either the man or his wife. It was due to their lack of personal responsibility that he is dead tonight. Similarly I have no doubt that the ACLU or *insert other whacky activist group name here* will take legal action against the United States of America on behalf of this man on the grounds that shooting him somehow infringed on his right to free speech - just watch. If you must, the whole story is here: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/air...hot/index.html Hate away, I couldn't care less.....  
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|  12-08-2005, 01:24 AM | #2 | 
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				 | The moron got what he deserved. Tired of hearing excuses all day long in this country about bad behavior. If you're an asshole, shape up. If you have mental problems take your fuckin' meds. 
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|  12-08-2005, 01:26 AM | #3 | 
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				 | good riddance . . . . there is too much traffic anyway | 
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|  12-08-2005, 01:29 AM | #4 | 
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				 | that poor guy    
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|  12-08-2005, 01:31 AM | #5 | 
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|  12-08-2005, 01:33 AM | #6 | 
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				 | I'm with you 100%.  Act out of control, and be prepared to face the music.  Can you imagine the shit other people on the plane were thinking?  The feeling of relief when they dropped his ass must have been intense. | 
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|  12-08-2005, 01:33 AM | #7 | 
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				 | It just goes to show, you shouldn't fuck with the man! 
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|  12-08-2005, 01:45 AM | #8 | 
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				 | He got what he deserved!   | 
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|  12-08-2005, 01:46 AM | #9 | 
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				 | My wife has worked at least one flight (flight attendant) where the flight crew detained a passenger with the help of other passengers without the onboard FAMs even blinking an eye, let alone IDing themselves. It takes quite a bit to get a FAM to ID themself and draw a weapon. If you get them that far you best comply with their commands, because they won't hesitate to drop you. 
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|  12-08-2005, 02:50 AM | #10 | |
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 People just have no idea how to use English correctly anymore. I blame black people. | |
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|  12-08-2005, 02:54 AM | #11 | 
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				 | I have a feeling that the guy was just fucking around, trying to be funny after a few too many in-flight cocktails, but hey what do ya expect? In this day and age you just cannot do that shit, at all. 
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|  12-08-2005, 02:56 AM | #12 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 02:56 AM | #13 | 
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				 | THey shouldn't have stepped on that plane, the wife knew he wasn't on his meds. I almost blame it on his wife, who could have stopped the whole thing from happening if she had kept his ass off the plane until he was medicated enough to handle it. And yes, in the state of the world after 9/11, the guy did truly get what he deserved. | 
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|  12-08-2005, 03:07 AM | #14 | |
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 Likewise, I blame the wife for not ensuring the guy was properly medicated. Too bad the guy had to die...but the air marshall was just doing his job from the sounds of it. | |
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|  12-08-2005, 03:10 AM | #15 | 
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				 | natural selection at it's finest all right, so maybe not so natural, but a damn nice thinning of the herd for sure | 
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|  12-08-2005, 03:10 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Is it outside the realm of possibility that perhaps this guy wasn't just 'off his meds' but was maybe just drunk, an idiot, or something else along those lines?  
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|  12-08-2005, 03:46 AM | #17 | 
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				 | The whole situation sucks ass.  I feel for the dead guy and his wife.  But the fact remains that the Marshall did his job.  Good on him.  I just hope he doesn't feel too guilty.  He did nothing wrong IMO.   
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|  12-08-2005, 03:52 AM | #18 | 
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				 | What happened is unfortunate, and the air marshall acted the way he should have... but stop talking shit about the guy who was killed, he obviously was not all there in the head, and if anything, his wife shouldn't have let him board the plane without his meds. 
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|  12-08-2005, 03:52 AM | #19 | |
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 People now days don't accept responsability for anything just check the Warcraft thread posted a while ago. | |
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|  12-08-2005, 03:57 AM | #20 | 
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				 | The guy who is now dead, must've had a very distorted perspective of reality. You dont go around saying you have a bomb when you're in a plane, the same way you dont go around waving toy guns at officers. If you do, you will get shot. | 
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|  12-08-2005, 09:49 AM | #21 | 
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				 | The agents did the right thing under the circumstances. | 
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|  12-08-2005, 09:52 AM | #22 | 
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				 | allah u akbar! | 
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|  12-08-2005, 09:58 AM | #23 | 
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				 | i agree 100%.  i would have shot him in the same circumstances.  they did the right thing whether the bleeding hearts want to admit it or not.  they shot to stop the threat.  the guy reached into his bag when told to surrender.  he could have been reaching to detonate a bomb.  you never know nowadays.  the last place you want to be an idiot is anywhere near an airport.  they were justified.  i've had extensive use of force training in the air force and graduated from a civilian P.O.S.T. academy after i got out.  in that situation any officer with a brain would have done the same thing. | 
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|  12-08-2005, 10:25 AM | #24 | 
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				 | his wife said he had bipolar disorder. true its not smart to go off your meds, but he wasn't acting that way on purpose. show some compassion. 
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|  12-08-2005, 10:28 AM | #25 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 10:31 AM | #26 | |
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 how the hell were the air marshalls supposed to know that? this shit happens very quickly, they had to shoot him. else anyone can use the excuse that they have BIPOLAR disorder to get away with whatever they want. | |
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|  12-08-2005, 10:33 AM | #27 | 
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				 | One of my friends (back in high school, we were teens) passed the metal detector, beeped then said "Oh, it's just my gun..." Dumb ass got FULL search, was detained for 4 hours, missed the flight (we were there as a class) ... His own fault. | 
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|  12-08-2005, 10:33 AM | #28 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 10:34 AM | #29 | 
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				 | ALso was it necessary to shoot him 5 times? They couldnt of shot him in the leg to stop him?  His wife was yelling he is mentally ill and off his meds, they could shot to stop not to kill. | 
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|  12-08-2005, 10:37 AM | #30 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 10:38 AM | #31 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 10:43 AM | #32 | |
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 The poor guy was ill. A fucking plane full of people and not witness came forward with this bomb bullshit story. My money is on the guy going apeshit running off the plane cause some fat sweaty fuck in a Hawaiian shirt was staring at him. The part about him reaching into a bag or "to the effect that he had a bomb" is made up bullshit. Of course they have to justify blowing away some dude-- "he said he had a bomb" is the easiest way out of that quandary. | |
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|  12-08-2005, 10:57 AM | #33 | |
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 You've never experienced a cop powertripping before? Everyone on the plane heard what his wife was saying. The guy ran off of the plane, yet they still shot him. | |
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|  12-08-2005, 11:36 AM | #34 | 
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				 | I love reading these 'emotionally charged' threads : ) 
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|  12-08-2005, 12:06 PM | #35 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 12:13 PM | #36 | 
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				 | ^ yeah but something serious had to go down for the FAR's to act like that in the first place. 
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|  12-08-2005, 12:19 PM | #37 | |
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 well hopefully he wasn't OTW  then it will really hit the fan . . | |
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|  12-08-2005, 12:25 PM | #38 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 12:27 PM | #39 | 
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				 | Excellent Post! 
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|  12-08-2005, 12:30 PM | #40 | 
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				 | I'll only say one thing: GWB did a good job, all you guys leave in fear all the time. It's pretty sad actually. 
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|  12-08-2005, 12:32 PM | #41 | |
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|  12-08-2005, 12:37 PM | #42 | |
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 Yep it's all him. He is so stupid but yet he has tricked us all into believing there are terrorists, make believe characters, that want to kill us.  
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|  12-08-2005, 02:07 PM | #44 | 
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|  12-08-2005, 02:14 PM | #45 | 
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				 | screaming fire in a theatre was never protected by the 1st amendment :D 
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|  12-08-2005, 02:37 PM | #46 | 
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				 | That is sad! 
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|  12-08-2005, 09:52 PM | #47 | |
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|  12-09-2005, 06:53 PM | #48 | 
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				 | freedom means you can do what you want when you want so long as it doesn't remove that right from someone else. that guy removed the right to safty for the flight of everyone else on that plane - and deserved to be shot dead in today's climate of air travel. if his wife knew he had a problem she should have used preventative measures and sedated him anticipate 
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|  12-09-2005, 07:06 PM | #49 | |
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 None of us were there but from what I've read and heard, the FAMs did EXACTLY what I would want them to do if I was on that flight. | |
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|  12-09-2005, 07:24 PM | #50 | 
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				 | 50 personal observations. | 
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