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Old 12-01-2005, 03:34 PM   #1
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Buh-bye .XXX

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12...ann_kills_xxx/

ICANN kills .xxx porn domain
But where's the pressure come from?
By Kieren McCarthy in Vancouver
Published Thursday 1st December 2005 20:48 GMT
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The proposed .xxx porn domain has been kicked into the long grass just days before it was due to meet final approval.

ICANN chairman Vint Cerf stunned an open meeting of the governmental advistory committee (GAC) in Vancouver late on Tuesday when he announced that the whole issue had been pulled from the Board meeting agenda - where it had been the first topic of discussion.
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The reason given (this time) was that the GAC needed time to review a 350-page ICANN report on the domain's feasibility before it could provide its approval (or disapproval).

That's a red herring though. The report was completed on 31 August, and is mostly complimentary about the proposed domain. Not only that but all the issues surrounding the domain are already well known to everyone involved, and up until Cerf's sudden announcement, had been effectively given the green light.

ICANN has come under pressure to release the report and so provide adequate excuse for delaying .xxx's approval yet again. The people behind .xxx, ICM Registry, opposed its release, complaining that no other new domains had had their ICANN report released before they had been granted final approval and that they were being unfairly treated.

However, if rumours are to be believed, ICANN took a top-level decision to release the report and so provide a delay excuse, after EU commissioner Viviane Reding called the head of ICANN Paul Twomey direct and threatened to withdraw all the EU's representatives unless the issue was pulled. Twomey this morning denied he had had any communication with Reding over the issue.

If would certainly be an unusual decision on Reding's part, especially since the EU has been mostly supportive of .xxx. It is only Brazil and the US administration that remain opposed to the domain.

More likely is that the US government intervened but is desperate to avoid being seen to do so because of the ongoing Internet governance conflict, where the US government retains unilateral control of the Internet but claims never to use apply it.

The Bush administration has been very effectively lobbied by the Christian right, and the US is desperate to make it look as though other governments are equally concerned about .xxx. The conspriacy theory is that by delaying .xxx, the EU puts a spotlight on the US' attempts to sway the course of the Internet.

Whether that's true or not, it still leaves one furious owner of ICM Registry, Stuart Lawley, who has sunk millions into the project and been consistently stymied at the last minute by unusual delays. ®


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I would like to think that those that took a public stand against .XXX at http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com and the packet i sent in to ICANN did some good to demonstrate that .XXX is a bad idea.

.KIDS TLD is the best way to stop kids from seeing the "bad stuff" (along with parental supervision)


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Old 12-01-2005, 03:35 PM   #2
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Good stuff to hear, it was a bs idea anyway
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Yes, but Cains pretends to be a TGP webmaster, who clearly has some connections of support for .XXX


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wonder how much lensman made off that .xxx registrar banner he had flying when all of that first came out?

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as labret said, we're nothing but banner impressions in his eyes.
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Yes, but Cains pretends to be a TGP webmaster, who clearly has some connections of support for .XXX


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is there a special classification for "TGP webmasters" as opposed to being an adult webmaster?
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I am sure the ICM guys are playing the role of the old guy in the wheelbarrow from "Holy Grail".... "I'm not dead yet"...... or maybe even the Black Knight, having all ends chopped off.... "it's a draw....."




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no i think brandon was being specific about what form is allegedly used for allegedly shilling allegedly
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is there a special classification for "TGP webmasters" as opposed to being an adult webmaster?
i was being specific, so he "claims" to be a TGP webmaster.. but i am sure if we took a survey, TGP webmasters might feel that they are special and needing a classification


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no i think brandon was being specific about what form is allegedly used for allegedly shilling allegedly
now, now.. that's not what i meant and you know it

"Cains" is pretending to be a TGP webmaster.


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i was being specific, so he "claims" to be a TGP webmaster.. but i am sure if we took a survey, TGP webmasters might feel that they are special and needing a classification


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can we get a .TGP tld?
I think it costs ya $50K to put in an application to ICANN, and have to demonstrate the community need for such... and then, if approved, a mil or two to setup the DNS server infrastructure, especially for .TGP which would probalby get a ton of traffic.

or maybe easier, find some tiny island that wants to claim .TGP as their country TLD..... maybe the TGP guys could pool some money to purchase their own island.

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I think it costs ya $50K to put in an application to ICANN, and have to demonstrate the community need for such... and then, if approved, a mil or two to setup the DNS server infrastructure, especially for .TGP which would probalby get a ton of traffic.

or maybe easier, find some tiny island that wants to claim .TGP as their country TLD..... maybe the TGP guys could pool some money to purchase their own island.

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You forgot the needed bribe money to get people to support you... ;)
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The demise of .XXX, at least for the foreseeable future is great news for both folks in the adult business and domain speculators, such as myself ... I've been getting more inquiries lately regarding my adult for sale domains.

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funny.. I wonder if the .xxx registrar will be issuing refunds? I guarentee that money is already spent on fast cars, hookers, and booze.
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I overnighted and faxed a 15 page document to ICANN to explain why .XXX was bad (and how .KIDS is good), along with the names of these companies in the adult space, that have taken a public stand against .XXX

I'd like to think that the notable names on this list (from http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com) made it clear to ICANN that there was not a community-wide support for .XXX, that ICM claimed to have.


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Sex.com (search portal)

Home Grown Video (paysites)

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Adam & Eve (novelties and video)

SmashBucks (paysites)

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funny.. I wonder if the .xxx registrar will be issuing refunds? I guarentee that money is already spent on fast cars, hookers, and booze.
So it didn't pay off to buy domain names that didn't exist yet? Heh...
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So it didn't pay off to buy domain names that didn't exist yet? Heh...
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Well, but if Shemp wanted to start .TGP TLD and all the TGP webmasters wanted it, then no need for such alleged activities....

I think Shemp could just buy a small island himself and get his own country TLD




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I think you are wrong.
I pre-registered over $750,000.00 worth of .xxx names and at no point did the sites selling the pre-registrations say anything about .xxx not being available. They wouldn't have kept silent and just collect everyone's money for nothing, right? Are you saying that I am I out this money? What if I sell these pre-registrations to someone on e-bay? Let me know because I could be out a bunch of cash!

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I think you are wrong.
I pre-registered over $750,000.00 worth of .xxx names and at no point did the sites selling the pre-registrations say anything about .xxx not being available. They wouldn't have kept silent and just collect everyone's money for nothing, right? Are you saying that I am I out this money? What if I sell these pre-registrations to someone on e-bay? Let me know because I could be out a bunch of cash!

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I think you are wrong.
I pre-registered over $750,000.00 worth of .xxx names and at no point did the sites selling the pre-registrations say anything about .xxx not being available. They wouldn't have kept silent and just collect everyone's money for nothing, right? Are you saying that I am I out this money? What if I sell these pre-registrations to someone on e-bay? Let me know because I could be out a bunch of cash!

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Ugh ? if it wasn't approved, you are supposed to get your money back... read the TOS . And adding to that, I highly doubt you spend 750k without reading the TOS first ;)
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I think you are wrong.
I pre-registered over $750,000.00 worth of .xxx names and at no point did the sites selling the pre-registrations say anything about .xxx not being available. They wouldn't have kept silent and just collect everyone's money for nothing, right? Are you saying that I am I out this money? What if I sell these pre-registrations to someone on e-bay? Let me know because I could be out a bunch of cash!

Let me know as soon as possible!

Thanks!
why would you spend 3/4ths of a million dollars on a stupid investment like that without researching deep into the whole .xxx shit? did you honestly believe it would happen? fool.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:02 PM   #40
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Good news. It was a stupid (and corrupt) idea.

Now, get your ICRA tags or similar up on your sites, teach the parents, and lets continue how its supposed to be.
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Did you guys get your money back ?
http://www.xxxregistry.net/
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cheers for that good news.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:46 PM   #46
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Oh shit, I spent $15,000 pre-registering domains! I'm fucked!

just kidding

Anyone who did is a sucker, I hope they get their money back.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:49 PM   #47
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Did you guys get your money back ?
http://www.xxxregistry.net/

haha

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The .xxx pre-registrations are currently offline due to legal discussions with ICANN, the US Dept of Commerce and other parties.
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The .xxx pre-registrations are currently offline while we take your money and moved to an island somewhere.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:51 PM   #48
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I pre-registered over $750,000.00 worth of .xxx names and at no point did the sites selling the pre-registrations say anything about .xxx not being available.

from ICM Registry's website:
http://www.icmregistry.com/pre-registration.html



Notice about potentially misleading pre-registration opportunities


ICM Registry has been informed that several so called "registration services" providers may be offering pre-registration for domain names in the .XXX top-level domain. In response, ICM Registry advises that the .XXX top-level domain has not yet been launched, and no registrar or other entity has been licensed or authorized by ICM Registry or ICANN to register .XXX domain names. No party claiming to offer registration services or name reservation services in .XXX can is authorized to do so and any claim by any entity suggesting it has or will have preferential or advantageous access to registration services when .XXX is launched is false. We advise consumers to be very cautious of such schemes and regularly check our website or join our mailing list for updates on availability of .xxx , which will be through ICANN accredited registrars. These types of scheme were also in operation during the last round of TLDs launched by ICANN a few years ago and the problem became so prevalent , the Federal Trade Commission issued the following advisory:

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...domainalrt.htm


Fight the ...and if you act now, we'lll throw in an extra .XXX domain for the same high price!
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