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Old 03-26-2002, 04:04 PM   #51
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If it were to fly, I'd love to see the American Indians sue to get their land back. Now THAT is one that makes sense.
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Old 03-26-2002, 04:06 PM   #52
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If it were to fly, I'd love to see the American Indians sue to get their land back. Now THAT is one that makes sense.
no shit man! we'd all have to move, cuz we stole the whole damn country.
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Old 03-26-2002, 04:11 PM   #53
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no shit man! we'd all have to move, cuz we stole the whole damn country.
I agree...we gave them a couple thousand shitty acres and a few casinos, then just called it even. Of course, I've got some Cherokee in me, maybe I'd cash in...LoL.
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Old 03-26-2002, 04:13 PM   #54
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no shit man! we'd all have to move, cuz we stole the whole damn country.
If this logic ever prevails then there will be a lot of moving going on.

Let's take Italians for example. Under this logic the following would take place.

Southern Italians move back to North Africa and Southern Spain.
Move in Moroccans and Scandinavians. Move them out again to make way for people from Spain [Andalusian region--the Vandals settled there]. Move these people out again to make way for Central Italians. Move these people out to to make way for German people. Move these out to make way for Swedes. Move them out due to Slovenes... etc etc ad nauseum.


HISTORY is about movement and conquest. Nobody "owns" anything.
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Old 03-26-2002, 04:34 PM   #55
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Let state first i am far from being a racist.

My opinion these people should be happy their ancestors were brought here as slaves.

If they were not, 99% of the people trying to get retribution would still be living in Africa, Starving and dying of AIDS
well how about we should be thanking the black ancestors for building this country.... cuz its a proven fact without the black slaves there wouldn't be the US of today,,,this idea of still living in africa can work both ways

there is alot of generalization here,,, you shouldn't classify the whole race,,, i mean if you see someone black you automatically gonna assume there on welfare or being lazy? any person with common sense knows this frivolous lawsuit,,, wow a grouped class action suit,,, hmm 33 million blacks,, what does that mean everyone will get $50.00
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Old 03-26-2002, 04:45 PM   #56
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**If it were to fly, I'd love to see the American Indians sue to get their land back. Now THAT is one that makes sense.**

Thats the bent my previous post was angling at. The old man is Shawnee-Cherokee and he's actual chuckling over this suit. His thoughts are, we'll have the Summer home around Xenia Ohio where his faamily on his Mom's side lived and the Winter home down in the Carolinas where his Dads family lived. lol

Odd thing, both sides of his family fought for the North. There is a church in Alabama that was used as a civil war hospital, and it was left as it was then. Museum style. And in candle soot on one of the angled ceilings where the cots were placed, is his family name. That man almost died in Andersonville for that war. Several others DID die. He owes what to whom?

We owe who WHAT? BS! He holds no grudges to be truthful so why are they? More Indians suffered than the Slaves of African ethninticity. <sp?> Ahh but he has abit of the Irish blarney in him too. Also his Irish ancestor was beknighted in England so they have a Brit coat of Arms. Maybe THAT keeps him from being upset that his tribes were both forced to march a thousand miles on foot IN the Winter so that the slaves HAD fields to work in.


His only statement has been let the wasitay set precedence and we will own Ohio once again. He just got back from tinkering with yet ANOTHER war. Seems these Injuns just love a good fight and will travel.
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Old 03-26-2002, 05:09 PM   #57
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its funny how slavery was such a big issue when more salved where sent to brazil than any other country, and yet people plame the whites for it when it was the blacks selling there own people to white buyers.
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Old 03-27-2002, 12:07 PM   #58
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If only people in Africa would have thought of it first... they could have bought white people and then there might have been a United States of Africa.

As human beings, I don't feel people are responsible for what their ancestors did. This seems simlar to discovering that an ancestor from 137 years ago committed murder, so you get life in prison. It's different times now, different generations of people, and there have been advances in medicine, technology, etc. Basically this influences how people act... they are not the same as people were a century ago.

If you are a U.S. citizen, unemployment and welfare is equally available to you no matter what your race is. And the laws are the same for us all now. If something like slavery happened to you personally then you should have to right to make things even. The person(s) suing my not even have known their ancestors which were in slavery.
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