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Doctor Dre · 12-02-2005, 07:16 PM

Another great business advice :

Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks. With the money you make reinvesting it over the years, when you'll be retiring, you'll have way more. So stop spending and start re-investing.

DamageX · 12-02-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose

A business thread... nice...

Shit happens.

LiveDose · 12-02-2005, 07:16 PM

haha it is a nice change.

DamageX · 12-02-2005, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks.

You're a fucking genius.

QuaWee · 12-02-2005, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Another great business advice :

Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks. With the money you make reinvesting it over the years, when you'll be retiring, you'll have way more. So stop spending and start re-investing.

say what?

Doctor Dre · 12-02-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

say what?

Say that if you re-invest your money instead of spending it, on the long run it will be worth a lot more then the buck you spent on a coke. After you got a certain ammount of money, it's easier to make some more...

If you tell yourself that everytime you spend a dollar, you actually spend 10, then you'll stop spending and start re-investing a bit more ;)

ilsoph · 12-02-2005, 08:22 PM

a lot of interesting advice

here's my 2 cents:

1. do what you know
2. leverage your strengths
3. think outside the box

practical applications from personal experience:

1. trying to grow a gay tgp (bad idea)
2. hire monkeys; your best resource is your brain and the best use of your time is using your best resource
3. copying someone else will allow you to duplicate their success to a point, but you will never be greater than what you copied

Nicky · 12-02-2005, 08:31 PM

This thread is good, we need more of these

David - PG · 12-02-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ilsoph

1. trying to grow a gay tgp (bad idea)
2. hire monkeys; your best resource is your brain and the best use of your time is using your best resource
3. copying someone else will allow you to duplicate their success to a point, but you will never be greater than what you copied

ad 2: Carefully think what activities are inhouse and which are outsourced. Wasting hours a day explaining things to people on ICQ or over Skype can be hurting your bottom line because the day only has 24 hours.

ad 3: So true.

John Marco · 12-02-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Another great business advice :

Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks. With the money you make reinvesting it over the years, when you'll be retiring, you'll have way more. So stop spending and start re-investing.

lol.. yeah I think like this too. If you can make 20% return $1 is worth $6.20 in 10 years..

latinasojourn · 12-02-2005, 11:47 PM

with erotica and web marketing you must diversify. only then can you scale it up.

because if you are working with a certain solo model site, or a single tight niche site, you can only produce so much content in a given amount of time that is very tightly niched---so you reach a point of diminishing returns if you try to do continuous saturation marketing...because for erotica, even though the product has great repeat sale potential, the consumer must constantly see NEW stuff to want to buy---in other words, once he's seen it, and presumably rubbed one out to it, it is more difficult to rub one out with the same content the second time.

so to scale out you must not over saturate your content, because on planet earth the surfers group for specific niches is not growing exponentially at this time.

diversify the content, then scale out the marketing.

wedouglas · 12-02-2005, 11:50 PM

I am kind of stuck in the 200 range.

I would be satisfied if it stayed like this, but it won't, so I need to step up my game and find new sources of income.

fallenmuffin · 12-03-2005, 08:36 AM

I'm very suprised at everyones advice and welling-ness to take part in my business thread. You have all given great advice. I now know which direction I'm going in to reach my goal. I hope others have learned something in here.

warlock5 · 12-03-2005, 08:50 AM

Are you even a webmaster? Your first post suggested bankrupcty was in the future of someone making $70 a day if he tried to double his income.

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Originally Posted by David - PG

And why is that??????????? You're not making sense. What's the difference between 50k a day and $300 a day. Why does "duplication" stop working at 50k a day? lol

Have you ever run a business? You sure don't sound like it.

69pornlinks · 12-03-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

How does one start a _paysite_ with PornAccess/AVS/AEN is it a matter of supplying content (i.e. pictures and movies) or selecting from their content database, branding, and then pushing traffic..

I'm interested in this and would love to know more about it.. any links you have with more detailed information would be very appricated.

some places allow you to get content from them, all you do is build/design the site then push traffic. or you can go the premium avs route where you supply your own content (best if it's a underpushed niche-hairy fat chicks or something), you do the update yourself, and it's all recurring income, the sellling point to the surfer is that they will have access to alll the sites in their network...i have no links available at the moment...

HXMGP · 12-03-2005, 09:05 AM

I get 1000 google uniques per day

That's nice!

Part-timer · 12-03-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HXMGP

I get 1000 google uniques per day

That's nice!

It's not nice if you get them with keyword "free recipe for grandmas to make cookies"

It's nice if you get them with keyword "i have $200 000 and i want to buy a ferrari online" and you are a ferrari broker...

Anyway to get 1000 google uniques in a day is a good achievement, keep up the good work!

Marshal · 12-03-2005, 02:20 PM

great advices!

Playa-Deak · 12-03-2005, 02:31 PM

Cool

FlyingIguana · 12-03-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTymer

Add PayServe to your lineup.

or you can be a knob and spam ppl's threads

StudioCash Luke · 12-03-2005, 03:24 PM

Very good thread. David knows what he is talking about.

datatank · 12-03-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Part-timer

It's not nice if you get them with keyword "free recipe for grandmas to make cookies"

It's nice if you get them with keyword "i have $200 000 and i want to buy a ferrari online" and you are a ferrari broker...

Anyway to get 1000 google uniques in a day is a good achievement, keep up the good work!

haha so true

David - PG · 12-04-2005, 06:58 AM

You're an idiot who didn't understand my post nor knows anything of my business.

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Originally Posted by warlock5

Are you even a webmaster? Your first post suggested bankrupcty was in the future of someone making $70 a day if he tried to double his income.

Morgan Sommer · 12-04-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Okay, so I'm stuck at $70 a day sometimes I tap out at $100 a day but it's usually 70..

What steps did _YOU_ take to boost your income to the $300/day range? My traffic is small and niched but it works, clearly. Growing traffic could get me to a steady 100/day and I plan to launch another site later this month.. But I'm wondering about what paths you took.

This thread doesn't apply to program owners or up sellers only straight affiliate marketers... Although your wisdom is always appreciated.

Not straight but the lessons we have used are the same. We have been very very picky over the years about who's sites and products we promote from our free sites.

Generally we operate on instict, that a particular site, it's name, content, over all image, etc are good. Then we promote. If it grows we divert attention away from those that dont and really promote. If it grows more we promote to the point that it looks like the site might even be our own. This method has worked for us to build a free site from scratch 3 years ago and make it make significantly more than 300 a day, and only one person works on that site.

Joe D is flattering to me but is also correct about the shows. Get to know some of those people he refers to who represent great products and know people who know people.

TheDoc · 01-31-2006, 09:12 AM

automate & duplicate!

bigdog · 01-31-2006, 09:22 AM

Keep working hard and try to work on niches that not everyone else is doing.

TubeSubmitters · 02-01-2007, 10:46 AM

so did you manage to get to $200-300/day yet?

Dildozer · 02-01-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bengtarne

so did you manage to get to $200-300/day yet?

Prolly "workin on it"

tombarr · 02-01-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

David you are a wise guy. Every reply in this thread has been a good one. And that is exactly what I've been doing, lol. I do all my own traffic building (I will never buy traffic), I do my own designing and I do my own programming (I've been a freelance web and software developer for 7 years). So, literally my only investment is hosting and the domain name, lol.

Your Time is also your investment. You have an hourly value for that time. If you can have redundant tasks handled by someone who costs you less than that per hour, that with your supervision and oversight could give you that extra pair of hands, you could then be freed up to do things that generate more revenue.

DateDoc · 02-01-2007, 11:02 AM

I did not read the whole thread but here is my 2 cents. Pick 1 thing and master it. Whether it be submitting, running a tgp, building SE traffic or whatever it is. Once you have mastered it and are comfortable with it pick a 2nd thing and master it.

Starting out if you try to do 50 things you will do ok at a few and more than likely fail at the rest as you will only have a basic knowledge of 50 things. Being great at a few things is 100 times better than be ok at a lot of things and will make you more money.

Most importantly - If you LOVE what you do you will be SUCCESSFUL at it! So don't spend time on something you don't like to do.

JD · 02-01-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn

old thread alert

oldie but goodie

RBC · 02-01-2007, 11:43 AM

traffic.

you have small and niched. the problem is SMALL
work on it, pay for it, try to get it for free - traffic is the key

niched - is not a problem if you can be #1-#3 in your niche you will get good part of the cake

and dont think about just $300 this about how you can grow, its just a game
and we should know the rules.

my advice - blogs and SE traffic.

I don't know what niche are you in and I hope you like it because it helps when you like what you do

my 2 pennies

tehHinjew · 02-01-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

I'm not talking about mailing either ... anybody in mailing who dosen't make 300 a day is a fucking tool.

whats the best mailing program out there?

polish_aristocrat · 03-23-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tehHinjew

whats the best mailing program out there?

ask your friends' friend

V_RocKs · 03-23-2007, 02:48 PM

To answer the question....

You reinvent yourself...

When I got started I was a submitter...

Then a TGP owner...

Then I posted to newsgroups...

Then I did some other spammish stuff... (namely spamming).

Then I did free sites...

Then I did blogs...

Then I did MGP's...

Then I did SEO...

Then I started looking into how people actually get traffic in large amounts and I learned how to incorporate some of their techniques into my own game plan and refine them...

But basically I reinvented myself multiple times...

polish_aristocrat · 03-24-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bengtarne

so did you manage to get to $200-300/day yet?

I guess we won't hear the answer...

good thread btw

fallenmuffin · 03-24-2007, 02:58 PM

Wow, someone bumped my old thread lol. Yes, this is a good thread indeed. I managed to boost my income and keep it stable for awhile now.

AtlantisCash · 03-24-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

You sound like you've been to business school but never done anything in this business.

You make ZERO sense. Tell me who is making 50 000 a day in this business ?
Very few people, and thoses who are doing aren't posting galleries on than.

I'm taking 300 a day because of the topic. 300 a day is midly EASILY doable in this business with some work and good business sense. For 50 000 a day you need to be a fucking genious

Your posts are all valuable in this thread & i agree with you with many points, however when you said industry, You only count TGPS, Blogs, Gallery submitters etc. You don't care program owners, trafficshops, content shooters and other money makers in this industry, like Phone Sex, Dialers, pbp, ppc & many of them wich i don't know much, so my opinion is never think this biz has limited on one way.

INTERNET is a very big ocean and we webmasters are captains, we keep driving our boat through to where the fish is

Peace.

hentaibee · 03-25-2007, 02:34 PM

select sticky sponsors,and blog about them as if you really really into their models.

might only work if you really are a total fetishist

03-25-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Wow, someone bumped my old thread lol. Yes, this is a good thread indeed. I managed to boost my income and keep it stable for awhile now.

how did you do it?
Im stuck at about $70 a day as well

polish_aristocrat · 08-15-2007, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Wow, someone bumped my old thread lol. Yes, this is a good thread indeed. I managed to boost my income and keep it stable for awhile now.

good for you

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ilsoph Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 225	a lot of interesting advice here's my 2 cents: 1. do what you know 2. leverage your strengths 3. think outside the box practical applications from personal experience: 1. trying to grow a gay tgp (bad idea) 2. hire monkeys; your best resource is your brain and the best use of your time is using your best resource 3. copying someone else will allow you to duplicate their success to a point, but you will never be greater than what you copied

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latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	with erotica and web marketing you must diversify. only then can you scale it up. because if you are working with a certain solo model site, or a single tight niche site, you can only produce so much content in a given amount of time that is very tightly niched---so you reach a point of diminishing returns if you try to do continuous saturation marketing...because for erotica, even though the product has great repeat sale potential, the consumer must constantly see NEW stuff to want to buy---in other words, once he's seen it, and presumably rubbed one out to it, it is more difficult to rub one out with the same content the second time. so to scale out you must not over saturate your content, because on planet earth the surfers group for specific niches is not growing exponentially at this time. diversify the content, then scale out the marketing.

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wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	I am kind of stuck in the 200 range. I would be satisfied if it stayed like this, but it won't, so I need to step up my game and find new sources of income.

12-03-2005, 08:36 AM	#113
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	I'm very suprised at everyones advice and welling-ness to take part in my business thread. You have all given great advice. I now know which direction I'm going in to reach my goal. I hope others have learned something in here.

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HXMGP Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 252	I get 1000 google uniques per day That's nice!

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bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Keep working hard and try to work on niches that not everyone else is doing.

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DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	I did not read the whole thread but here is my 2 cents. Pick 1 thing and master it. Whether it be submitting, running a tgp, building SE traffic or whatever it is. Once you have mastered it and are comfortable with it pick a 2nd thing and master it. Starting out if you try to do 50 things you will do ok at a few and more than likely fail at the rest as you will only have a basic knowledge of 50 things. Being great at a few things is 100 times better than be ok at a lot of things and will make you more money. Most importantly - If you LOVE what you do you will be SUCCESSFUL at it! So don't spend time on something you don't like to do. __________________

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RBC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 328	traffic. you have small and niched. the problem is SMALL work on it, pay for it, try to get it for free - traffic is the key niched - is not a problem if you can be #1-#3 in your niche you will get good part of the cake and dont think about just $300 this about how you can grow, its just a game and we should know the rules. my advice - blogs and SE traffic. I don't know what niche are you in and I hope you like it because it helps when you like what you do my 2 pennies

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	To answer the question.... You reinvent yourself... When I got started I was a submitter... Then a TGP owner... Then I posted to newsgroups... Then I did some other spammish stuff... (namely spamming). Then I did free sites... Then I did blogs... Then I did MGP's... Then I did SEO... Then I started looking into how people actually get traffic in large amounts and I learned how to incorporate some of their techniques into my own game plan and refine them... But basically I reinvented myself multiple times...

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fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Wow, someone bumped my old thread lol. Yes, this is a good thread indeed. I managed to boost my income and keep it stable for awhile now.

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