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DamageX 12-02-2005 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
Select content from them, make a site, send it traffic.

Knowledge is power - see sig ;)

I see you have decided to make use of my motto. What else, which is not yours, are you using? :Graucho

Part-timer 12-02-2005 04:46 PM

educate yourself to google adwords professional, (or at least take the 1st steps to PPC advertising) focus on mainstream (less competition) and you will make a $1000 in a day in no time.. :2 cents:

John Marco 12-02-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Part-timer
educate yourself to google adwords professional, (or at least take the 1st steps to PPC advertising) focus on mainstream (less competition) and you will make a $1000 in a day in no time.. :2 cents:

Google adwords takes quite a lot of money to see any decent return, because it's pretty hit and miss. You can spend $500 and only get 10 sales and then the next $100 will get you another 10.. This requires a substantial investment for it to be worthwhile. Same goes for buying gallery traffic -- one top hun gallery will get you only 10 sales for a $300 loss but the next one will get you 30 to make up for it.

I think it's better to build a stable network of free sites with free traffic until you are netting at least $300 per day before you venture into paid spots (at least for adult).

fuzebox 12-02-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX
I see you have decided to make use of my motto. What else, which is not yours, are you using? :Graucho

Wtf? "your motto"? :1orglaugh

fallenmuffin 12-02-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by John Marco
Google adwords takes quite a lot of money to see any decent return, because it's pretty hit and miss. You can spend $500 and only get 10 sales and then the next $100 will get you another 10.. This requires a substantial investment for it to be worthwhile. Same goes for buying gallery traffic -- one top hun gallery will get you only 10 sales for a $300 loss but the next one will get you 30 to make up for it.

I think it's better to build a stable network of free sites with free traffic until you are netting at least $300 per day before you venture into paid spots (at least for adult).

I agree with you John regarding Google Adwords. I once did a champign for a mainstream template site and lost $375 in the process. I was even weeding out keywords like _free_ and only after targeted buying searchers. I think Adwords is a good tool but unless you already have a large stable income I wouldn't risk it.

Part-timer 12-02-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John Marco
Google adwords takes quite a lot of money to see any decent return, because it's pretty hit and miss. You can spend $500 and only get 10 sales and then the next $100 will get you another 10..

Yes but what about if i get $150 per sale? :thumbsup For $500 investment, with 10 "sales" it's about 300% ROI. You can start to learn adwords by spending only 1 cent per click.

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Originally Posted by John Marco
This requires a substantial investment for it to be worthwhile. Same goes for buying gallery traffic -- one top hun gallery will get you only 10 sales for a $300 loss but the next one will get you 30 to make up for it.

it's all about knowledge and education, to know what to sell and how to sell. You can get the knowledge from education or from experience. As i said you will need education to get that profit from galleries, free sites or adwords. I have tried them all and adwords rocks for me!

Part-timer 12-02-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin
I agree with you John regarding Google Adwords. I once did a champign for a mainstream template site and lost $375 in the process. I was even weeding out keywords like _free_ and only after targeted buying searchers. I think Adwords is a good tool but unless you already have a large stable income I wouldn't risk it.

I doubt you are adwords professional?

DamageX 12-02-2005 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox
Wtf? "your motto"? :1orglaugh

It's on top of ADX. He doesn't have the brains to think of that himself.

detoxed 12-02-2005 05:17 PM

repeat what you've been doing, with a new site and a new main source of traffic... for example trade with new sites etc.

fuzebox 12-02-2005 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX
It's on top of ADX. He doesn't have the brains to think of that himself.


:1orglaugh people have been saying that since before you were born.

Did you invent the internet too?

DamageX 12-02-2005 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox
:1orglaugh people have been saying that since before you were born.

Did you invent the internet too?

No. Al Gore did.

chshkt 12-02-2005 06:11 PM

Actually "Knowledge is Power" is said in like 16th century by Francis Bacon, an english philosopher.

DamageX 12-02-2005 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chshkt
Actually "Knowledge is Power" is said in like 16th century by Francis Bacon, an english philosopher.

Was.
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Tala 12-02-2005 06:17 PM

Thread bookmarked!! :thumbsup

Part-timer 12-02-2005 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chshkt
Actually "Knowledge is Power" is said in like 16th century by Francis Bacon, an english philosopher.

Todays philosophers says "It's not about what you know, it's about what you do whit what you know"

But basically, you can always do more if you know more :winkwink:

kahell 12-02-2005 06:36 PM

:thumbsup This is the best thread that I ever read and I am learning a lot of things . The admin of GFY should pin this thread as important and a must read thread. (on top. page1). Just like what the GFY slogan say ?where the industry meet?. :thumbsup

fuzebox 12-02-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Part-timer
I doubt you are adwords professional?

I think that's the point of this thread :winkwink:

Are you saying you promote cams using Adwords?

Part-timer 12-02-2005 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox
I think that's the point of this thread :winkwink:

Are you saying you promote cams using Adwords?

No, i used to promote cams making living before, via freesites, galleries and stuff.

Now i use Adwords and other popular SE's (PPC) to promote articles which bring me the most profit in the industry, and it's not the adult industry.

Doctor Dre 12-02-2005 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Part-timer
Todays philosophers says "It's not about what you know, it's about what you do whit what you know"

But basically, you can always do more if you know more :winkwink:

I gotta agree with this . Too many people don't perform like they could.

LiveDose 12-02-2005 07:16 PM

A business thread... nice...

Doctor Dre 12-02-2005 07:16 PM

Another great business advice :

Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks. With the money you make reinvesting it over the years, when you'll be retiring, you'll have way more. So stop spending and start re-investing.

DamageX 12-02-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose
A business thread... nice...

Shit happens. :thumbsup

LiveDose 12-02-2005 07:16 PM

haha it is a nice change.

DamageX 12-02-2005 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks.

You're a fucking genius.

QuaWee 12-02-2005 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Another great business advice :

Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks. With the money you make reinvesting it over the years, when you'll be retiring, you'll have way more. So stop spending and start re-investing.

say what?

Doctor Dre 12-02-2005 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee
say what?

Say that if you re-invest your money instead of spending it, on the long run it will be worth a lot more then the buck you spent on a coke. After you got a certain ammount of money, it's easier to make some more...

If you tell yourself that everytime you spend a dollar, you actually spend 10, then you'll stop spending and start re-investing a bit more ;)

ilsoph 12-02-2005 08:22 PM

a lot of interesting advice

here's my 2 cents:

1. do what you know
2. leverage your strengths
3. think outside the box

practical applications from personal experience:

1. trying to grow a gay tgp (bad idea)
2. hire monkeys; your best resource is your brain and the best use of your time is using your best resource
3. copying someone else will allow you to duplicate their success to a point, but you will never be greater than what you copied

Nicky 12-02-2005 08:31 PM

This thread is good, we need more of these

David - PG 12-02-2005 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ilsoph
1. trying to grow a gay tgp (bad idea)
2. hire monkeys; your best resource is your brain and the best use of your time is using your best resource
3. copying someone else will allow you to duplicate their success to a point, but you will never be greater than what you copied

ad 2: Carefully think what activities are inhouse and which are outsourced. Wasting hours a day explaining things to people on ICQ or over Skype can be hurting your bottom line because the day only has 24 hours.

ad 3: So true.

John Marco 12-02-2005 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Another great business advice :

Everytime you spend a buck, you are actually spending 10 bucks. With the money you make reinvesting it over the years, when you'll be retiring, you'll have way more. So stop spending and start re-investing.

lol.. yeah I think like this too. If you can make 20% return $1 is worth $6.20 in 10 years..

latinasojourn 12-02-2005 11:47 PM

with erotica and web marketing you must diversify. only then can you scale it up.

because if you are working with a certain solo model site, or a single tight niche site, you can only produce so much content in a given amount of time that is very tightly niched---so you reach a point of diminishing returns if you try to do continuous saturation marketing...because for erotica, even though the product has great repeat sale potential, the consumer must constantly see NEW stuff to want to buy---in other words, once he's seen it, and presumably rubbed one out to it, it is more difficult to rub one out with the same content the second time.

so to scale out you must not over saturate your content, because on planet earth the surfers group for specific niches is not growing exponentially at this time.

diversify the content, then scale out the marketing.

wedouglas 12-02-2005 11:50 PM

I am kind of stuck in the 200 range. :(

I would be satisfied if it stayed like this, but it won't, so I need to step up my game and find new sources of income.

fallenmuffin 12-03-2005 08:36 AM

I'm very suprised at everyones advice and welling-ness to take part in my business thread. You have all given great advice. I now know which direction I'm going in to reach my goal. I hope others have learned something in here. :thumbsup

warlock5 12-03-2005 08:50 AM

Are you even a webmaster? Your first post suggested bankrupcty was in the future of someone making $70 a day if he tried to double his income.

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Originally Posted by David - PG
And why is that??????????? You're not making sense. What's the difference between 50k a day and $300 a day. Why does "duplication" stop working at 50k a day? lol

Have you ever run a business? You sure don't sound like it.


69pornlinks 12-03-2005 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin
How does one start a _paysite_ with PornAccess/AVS/AEN is it a matter of supplying content (i.e. pictures and movies) or selecting from their content database, branding, and then pushing traffic..

I'm interested in this and would love to know more about it.. any links you have with more detailed information would be very appricated.

some places allow you to get content from them, all you do is build/design the site then push traffic. or you can go the premium avs route where you supply your own content (best if it's a underpushed niche-hairy fat chicks or something), you do the update yourself, and it's all recurring income, the sellling point to the surfer is that they will have access to alll the sites in their network...i have no links available at the moment...

HXMGP 12-03-2005 09:05 AM

I get 1000 google uniques per day :) That's nice!

Part-timer 12-03-2005 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HXMGP
I get 1000 google uniques per day :) That's nice!

It's not nice if you get them with keyword "free recipe for grandmas to make cookies"

It's nice if you get them with keyword "i have $200 000 and i want to buy a ferrari online" and you are a ferrari broker... :2 cents:

Anyway to get 1000 google uniques in a day is a good achievement, keep up the good work! :thumbsup

Marshal 12-03-2005 02:20 PM

great advices! :)

Playa-Deak 12-03-2005 02:31 PM

Cool :pimp

FlyingIguana 12-03-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTymer
Add PayServe to your lineup.

or you can be a knob and spam ppl's threads


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