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Old 12-01-2005, 08:21 AM   #1
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Computer expert testifies that Florida elections were fixed [VIDEO]

http://www.iwilltryit.com/fixed1.htm

Computer programmer Clinton Curtis testified at the December 13th, 2004 Congressional hearing in Columbus, Ohio naming Republican Congressman Tom Feeney as the person who hired him to prepare vote-rigging software.

The programmer claims that he designed and built a "vote rigging" software program at the behest of then Florida Congressman, now U.S. Congressman, Republican Tom Feeney of Florida's 24th Congressional District.

Clint Curtis, 46, claims that he built the software for Feeney in 2000 while working at a sofware design and engineering company in Oviedo, Florida (Feeney's home district).

Curtis, in his affidavit, says that as technical advisor and programmer at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI) he was present at company meetings where Feeney was present "on at least a dozen occasions".

Feeney, who had run in 1994 as Jeb Bush's running-mate in his initial unsuccessful bid for Florida Governor, was serving as both corporate counsel and registered lobbyist for YEI during the period that Curtis worked at the company.

Feeney was also concurrently serving as a Florida state congressman while performing those services for YEI. Feeney would eventually become Speaker of the Florida House before being elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2002. He is now a member of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee.

At an October 2000 meeting with Feeney, according to the affidavit and BRAD BLOG interviews with Curtis over the past three days, Feeney inquired whether the company could build a "vote fraud software prototype".

At least three YEI employees are said to have been present at that meeting; Curtis, company owner, Mrs. Li Woan Yang, and her executive secretary, Mike Cohen. Two other YEI employees may have come in and out at different points of the meeting according to Curtis.

Curtis says that Feeney "was very specific in the design and specifications required for this program."

"He detailed, in his own words, that; (a) the program needed to be touch-screen capable (b) the user should be able to trigger the program without any additional equipment (c) the programming to accomplish this needed to stay hidden even if the source code was inspected."

Though there was no problem with the first two requirements, Curtis explained to the Congressman that it would be "virtually impossible to hide such code written to change the voting results if anyone is able to review the uncompiled source code"

Nonetheless, he was asked at the meeting by Mrs. Yang to build the prototype anyway.

Curtis, "a life-long Republican" at the time, claims that it was his initial belief that Feeney's interest was in trying to stop Democrats from using "such a program to steal an election". Curtis had assumed that Feeney, "wanted to be able to detect and prevent that if it occurred."

Upon delivery of the software design and documentation on CD to Mrs. Yang, Curtis again explained to her that it would be impossible to hide routines created to manipulate the vote if anybody would be able to inspect the precompiled source code.

Mrs. Yang then told him, "You don?t understand, in order to get the contract we have to hide the manipulation in the source code. This program is needed to control the vote in South Florida."

Mrs. Yang then took the CD containing the software from Curtis, reportedly for later delivery to Feeney.

In other meetings with Feeny prior to the 2000 elections, it became clear to Curtis that Feeney had plans to suppress the vote in strong Democratic precincts. In the affidavit, Curtis claims that in those meetings Feeney had "bragged that he had already implemented 'exclusion lists' to reduce the 'black vote'." Feeney also mentioned that "proper placement of police patrols could further reduce the black vote by as much as 25%."

Curtis says that he submitted his resignation to YEI effective December 2000, but stayed on until they had found someone to replace him in February of 2001. He eventually became employed by the Florida Dept. of Transportation (FDOT) after leaving YEI.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:23 AM   #2
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Not shocked. Odd he would come out and say this now. What about an example of the soft? If he did it once, shouldnt be anything for him to throw it together again.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:24 AM   #3
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this is old news (see dat in article) and no one cares.. Amazing..
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:29 AM   #4
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some countries would be revolting in the streets...but that shit would get in the way of the new sitcom...desperate housewives..or was it wifeswap..or escape death for money reality show

ah well..whats on TNN
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:57 AM   #5
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This is just unreal!!
How can americans sit and watch how some dumb fucks are ruining such great country and the whole world for sooo long... And then you wonder why the people don't like USA any more.
If that happened here, they would lynch them on the streets.

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?George Bush, what will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra? ?Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us.? ?
What are you waiting for?
TURN OFF THE FUCKING TELEVISION AND GET BACK YOUR COUNTRY AND YOUR FREEDOM!
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:44 AM   #6
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The US is a free contry, and election fraud simply can't happen here. Ever. No matter what.

That kind of a mindset is why nobody gives a damn about this theory.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:29 AM   #7
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Get your head out of the sand.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:16 AM   #8
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Get your head out of the sand.
Posting 100 links a day you probably get from the same website won't help ...

I do agree that the least election was probably rigged thought
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:18 AM   #9
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America consists of 45% sheep, 45% spineless pussies and 10% people who know the deal but don't have enough support to do anything about it. Sad but true.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:21 AM   #10
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I wonder how long it'll take theking to come in and state that his testimony isn't really "proof" and ask us all if we have harvard educations.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:24 AM   #11
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pretty much
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:28 AM   #12
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I read a bumper sticker a couple days ago that made so much sense in it's simplicity.

"If you are not outraged, you're not paying attention"

More trees, less Bush.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:34 AM   #13
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10 % of people that think they know the deal ... and 0.0001 % in the know
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I wonder how long it'll take theking to come in and state that his testimony isn't really "proof" and ask us all if we have harvard educations.
I know damn well he has Dubya, terrorism, Cheney and WMD on his board tracker. Should be here any minute. C'mon theking...we need you to set us all straight again.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:50 AM   #15
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I was getting ready to make a post about how chksht's conspriracy theories are as bad as conservatives spreading shit around Clinton being a mass murderer and killing Vince Foster, but I googled Curtis and Feeney first.

Apparently, this is all true! LOL

Nothing surprises me about the total corruption of the Republican Party anymore.
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I wonder how long it'll take theking to come in and state that his testimony isn't really "proof" and ask us all if we have harvard educations.
Too funny! But the B.S. keeps on piling up deeper and deeper, and we'll have to wait until January, 2009 until the stench begins to dissapate in Washington.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:20 PM   #17
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I read a bumper sticker a couple days ago that made so much sense in it's simplicity.

"If you are not outraged, you're not paying attention"

More trees, less Bush.
Simple but so true. BTW, "how are one touch cockie"!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:25 PM   #18
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I was getting ready to make a post about how chksht's conspriracy theories are as bad as conservatives spreading shit around Clinton being a mass murderer and killing Vince Foster, but I googled Curtis and Feeney first.

Apparently, this is all true! LOL

Nothing surprises me about the total corruption of the Republican Party anymore.
I Googled and found no "proof" that it is true...
just the same story from Curtis over and over.

Not saying Feeney didn't request it... or that Curtis did or didn't try to
write the code... or whether it was or wasn't used...
But with millions of people and millions of dollars opposed to Bush, I find
it hard to believe that the Democrat Party couldn't get "the lid blown
off this" in time for the Nov 2004 election. What are they waiting for?

True or not, until some proof comes along.. this is destined for the tin-foil hat crowd.
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I Googled and found no "proof" that it is true...
just the same story from Curtis over and over.

Not saying Feeney didn't request it... or that Curtis did or didn't try to
write the code... or whether it was or wasn't used...
But with millions of people and millions of dollars opposed to Bush, I find
it hard to believe that the Democrat Party couldn't get "the lid blown
off this" in time for the Nov 2004 election. What are they waiting for?

True or not, until some proof comes along.. this is destined for the tin-foil hat crowd.
I didn't say it was 'proven', just that it was in fact a credible accusation and not made up out of thin air, like the Vince Foster bullshit.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:30 PM   #20
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Simple but so true. BTW, "how are one touch cockie"!!
HaHa the OTC's are doing real good today. Gotta keep an eye on them though
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I Googled and found no "proof" that it is true...
just the same story from Curtis over and over.

Not saying Feeney didn't request it... or that Curtis did or didn't try to
write the code... or whether it was or wasn't used...
But with millions of people and millions of dollars opposed to Bush, I find
it hard to believe that the Democrat Party couldn't get "the lid blown
off this" in time for the Nov 2004 election. What are they waiting for?

True or not, until some proof comes along.. this is destined for the tin-foil hat crowd.
If belonging to the "tin foil hat" crowd includes questioning EVERYTHING that is presented to me as a fact by anyone...then count me in.

It'd be a perfect world if noone ever questioned authority and propaganda and lies and just stuck their head in the sand and took what was spoonfed to them on a daily basis. That would be just perfect...

Not taking shots at ya...but the whole "tin foil hat" thing always makes me laugh. If noone had ever questioned anything we'd all be running around thinking the world was flat. Questions and distrust aren't always a bad thing.

Spreading rumors as truths are a bad thing however and I think that's the tin foil hat community you are referring to, but some of us who wear the tin foil hats just honestly have a general mistrust in the information we're expected to believe.
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I Googled and found no "proof" that it is true...
just the same story from Curtis over and over.

Not saying Feeney didn't request it... or that Curtis did or didn't try to
write the code... or whether it was or wasn't used...
But with millions of people and millions of dollars opposed to Bush, I find
it hard to believe that the Democrat Party couldn't get "the lid blown
off this" in time for the Nov 2004 election. What are they waiting for?

True or not, until some proof comes along.. this is destined for the tin-foil hat crowd.
Wake up and smell the bullshit. The election of 2000 was totally manipulated and they just made a few modifications in 2004 to make it look less suspect. Dubya's daddy was the Director of the CIA so if you don't think strings couldn't be pulled to modify a few thousand votes, you're not living in reality. BTW Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill Kennedy either.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:44 PM   #23
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Fuck, who still expect for clean elections anyway?
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