Death Penalty - yes or no? - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 03-24-2002, 07:32 PM

I know we have people from all over the world here, and I know there are countries out there that do not allow the death penalty under any circumstance, but I do not know what the people feel.

So, do you feel that the death penalty should ever be applied? If so, is there a minimum age that a criminal should be before it is applied?

kmanrox · 03-24-2002, 07:33 PM

fry them all

mika · 03-24-2002, 07:35 PM

I saw a list of countries that have AND actually use death penalties

3rd world countries+USA

not a single other Western country

But my opinion,.. hmm
Maybe..

Lev · 03-24-2002, 07:36 PM

It's better than life time in jail, being banged up the ass by some hairy big dude.

oscer · 03-24-2002, 07:37 PM

Fuck man DOnt fry anyone make a virus that will match Genetic codes of a Certain Type of People and then let it go

greentea · 03-24-2002, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
fry them all

I agree, TOAST THEM!

Why pay to jail these people in prison for life? Its costs something like $30K+ a year of our taxpayer money to house them in disney land..

Fry them its costs 2bucks worth of electric...

Fuck giving murders, all cop killers,rapists etc life in prision
Pull the lever and end it..

larry · 03-24-2002, 07:38 PM

Well If they know they did it for sure... I'm all game..... The Fucking TAX in the UK is real bad..... If we start poping off all the shit heads then we'll be sorted

greentea · 03-24-2002, 07:41 PM

Look at the texans and floridans, there frying someone every other month.

These states you fuck up, they will kill you..

way it should be

Uncle Vinny · 03-24-2002, 07:43 PM

A bullet is cheaper than life in prison

larry · 03-24-2002, 07:43 PM

you gota stutter

larry · 03-24-2002, 07:47 PM

camel jocky's got it right ..... no criminal lives there

headly669 · 03-24-2002, 07:49 PM

Kill them ALL

and let GOD sort them out

larry · 03-24-2002, 07:51 PM

here here

LiveDose · 03-24-2002, 07:56 PM

First torture these fucks. Then strap 'em up and pull the switch. I'm also for a bullet to the head but something like a russian roulette style. Six guys take a turn with a gun to the head of the scum with one bullet. The last gun should be fully loaded.

Plus we should all be allowed to watch on cable tv.

Child molesters(this includes those Catholic scum priests), rapists etc etc. Kill 'm all and let God sort'em out!

LD

larry · 03-24-2002, 07:56 PM

Well you could make all prisions a Free Gay Sex Party......... I'm sure all the dildo boys out there would sort them out...... I know I wouldn't offend

larry · 03-24-2002, 07:59 PM

yeah Live TV show......$10 per view...... 1 lucky winner gets to hit the switch..........hey who knows there could be money in that

greentea · 03-24-2002, 08:00 PM

Ill pay to see it any day live on court tv

Amputate Your Head · 03-24-2002, 08:03 PM

Ride The Lightning.

TheEnforcer · 03-24-2002, 08:06 PM

Shouldn't be a death penalty in my opinion. And BTW- Death penalty cases cost MORE than simple incarceration.

Amputate Your Head · 03-24-2002, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by TheEnforcer
And BTW- Death penalty cases cost MORE than simple incarceration.

Do you know how much it costs to keep one man in prison for a year? It's not pretty.

VeNoM · 03-24-2002, 08:13 PM

more firing squads needed...

Sexymail · 03-24-2002, 08:22 PM

child molesters and sponsors that rip off people are the only ones that should be put to death!

larry · 03-24-2002, 08:25 PM

well half the sponsors would disappear then

Gemini · 03-24-2002, 08:27 PM

Hopefully the NEXT death penalty laws will be for sheer ignorance.

Wizzo · 03-24-2002, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEnforcer
Shouldn't be a death penalty in my opinion. And BTW- Death penalty cases cost MORE than simple incarceration.

In Texas, it's getting cheaper...I'm 100% for it!

baddog · 03-24-2002, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wizzo

In Texas, it's getting cheaper...I'm 100% for it!

well, like anything else, there is a discount for volume

larry · 03-24-2002, 08:43 PM

as it goes for minimum age ..... people who offend bad enough for the death penalty ...... at a young age, I personally would get rid of them but hey, Its all about second chances, Let them see other fuckers fry, let it play on their minds fo a while, lock them up for a bit, and see what happens

UnseenWorld · 03-24-2002, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Look at the texans and floridans, there frying someone every other month.

These states you fuck up, they will kill you..

way it should be

I have a fundamental "eye for an eye" belief in the justice of the death penalty for murder. However, the example of Illinois where MORE THAN HALF those on death row were proved by DNA analysis to be innocent brought me to the point of believing we should do what they did in Illinois: put the death penalty on hold until a more just and credible system can be created. Right now, if someone is convicted of a murder they didn't do in front of a crowd of witnesses or on video tape, I have to wonder if they are really guilty, and this is an uneasy feeling.

Proponents should also address the fact that those states which enforce the death penalty most vigorously have very little to show for it in terms of reduced murder rate. In fact, murderers seem to be lining up to be excecuted in those states which enforce the death penalty most fiercely.

Hot Tropical Babes · 03-24-2002, 08:44 PM

I am for it. I think we would have a hell of a lot less crime. When the consequences are high stakes, people think twice before they do the crime. Here in Florida, they got rid of old "sparky" (electric chair) due to the last person they fried got a nose bleed. Well what about his victoms, I bet they had a hell of a lot more inflictions than a nose bleed. Its sickening that a woman can drown her children and then live with three squares a day and the love and support of her husband. Now I think if the husband would of done it, he would be looking at the end of the needle or life in prison by now. This world is so fucked up. I enjoyed seeing Timothy McVeigh get the needle. Too bad he couldnt suffer as the people he killed and their familes did.
I dont understand why people make execution so costly and then drag it out for years. Hell ,, what does a simple bullet cost? vs. what does it cost to maintain a cold blooded killer for life?

eru · 03-24-2002, 08:46 PM

Of course we should keep the death penalty. I believe we are way too lenient with it though. For the most part, USA uses the lethal injection. This method of death is totally painless for the person it is given to due to the fact that they are put under before the injection is given. Serial killers should not die like this. We should delve into their minds with intense days-long interrogations and discover their darkest fears and use these fears to kill them.

I know this sounds kind of like something out of a science-fiction novel, but I think it could work. Another intresting thing to do I did read in a sci-fi novel (Chung Kuo series by David Wingrove) is to enforce a very unique type of death penalty: If someone is found guilty of murder, then that person and all of his family to the third generation will be killed. I forgot how though!

-eru

zubr · 03-24-2002, 09:04 PM

kmanrox · 03-24-2002, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Hopefully the NEXT death penalty laws will be for sheer ignorance.

but we'd like to keep you around for a little while gemini, we need a tree-hugging, baby kissing save the whales wench layin around to be our pin cushion

kmanrox · 03-24-2002, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by larry
as it goes for minimum age ..... people who offend bad enough for the death penalty ...... at a young age, I personally would get rid of them but hey, Its all about second chances, Let them see other fuckers fry, let it play on their minds fo a while, lock them up for a bit, and see what happens

i like your line of thought, essentially they fry, but we get to have fun with them first...

larry · 03-24-2002, 09:26 PM

larry · 03-24-2002, 09:27 PM

product of a sick mind

Pipecrew · 03-24-2002, 09:27 PM

shitty, maybee if this was started earlier in the week, you could of win a dvd player

Gemini · 03-24-2002, 09:47 PM

I'd tell you to try harder Kman but it would strain your peanut sized brain in that little head you have. ;-) Better people have tried and can't get a rise from me.

40 yrs at 30k per is 1.2m versus average 3m for the death penalty. Now take into consideration that death lets them OUT of any punishment beyond the sweat they lose while waiting. A nice 6x8 23 hours per day x 40 yrs. Do the math.

Oh and tree hugging? Please! lmao Men are tree huggers not woman. And no I don't attend all those save the whale things either. In fact I know very little about that sort of thing. I took engineering in college and thankfully they didn't insist on that sort of thing. lol What did YOU major in? Keg parties or attempting sex 101?

But seriously why give them the easy out? Make them REALLY suffer for life plus ten years. Back in the olden days they wouldn't even give the body to the family. They were buried inside the prison. So even their family didn't get closure. Most true killers are sick in the head so the death threat to them is nothing. How can that deter someone already a mental case?

Joe Blow · 03-24-2002, 09:50 PM

I say we should apply the death penalty Taliban style... a soccer field, hundreds of spectators, an automatic rifle and a party atmosphere...

At least they had the guts to kill their citizens out in the open instead of behind closed doors.

Kimmykim · 03-24-2002, 09:51 PM

Who needs the death penalty? If the US instituted the same sort of punishments as some middle eastern countries, there wouldn't be three strikes since no one would have any hands to strike with...

baddog · 03-24-2002, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
shitty, maybee if this was started earlier in the week, you could of win a dvd player

Damn, so the week ends at midnight tonight, not midnight Saturday night? Oh well, there goes my sons birthday present.

Sorry Daniel

Rictor · 03-24-2002, 10:13 PM

Death penalty for ALL crimes...ESPECIALLY jay-walking!

jennycards · 03-24-2002, 11:19 PM

<B><I>The death penalty is the ultimate cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment.

It violates the right to life.

It is irrevocable and can be inflicted on the innocent. It has never been shown to deter crime more effectively than other punishments.</I></B>

Go to http://web.amnesty.org/rmp/dplibrary.nsf/index?openview to read more facts about the death penalty.

- Otto -

Joe Blow · 03-24-2002, 11:27 PM

AFGHANISTAN, BAHAMAS, BELARUS, BURUNDI, CHINA, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, EGYPT, GUATEMALA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAPAN, JORDAN, KUWAIT, MALAYSIA, PAKISTAN, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, SAUDI ARABIA, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, TAIWAN, THAILAND, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN

Those are the countries, according to Amnesty International, that executed people in the year 2000. It is interesting to see the USA (& Japan) in that list of third world hell holes.

LiveDose · 03-24-2002, 11:43 PM

Jenny IT DETERS THAT INDIVIDUAL from every commiting a crime again. Why do we always have to talk about detering other people??? That isn't the point. If someone is a killer and you off them, I guarantee you they will never ever kill anyone again.

bunky · 03-24-2002, 11:55 PM

I say if u know they are gulity paint the fuckers up like 10 pointed deers and make em run through 500+ acres of woods during hunting seasons... make it sporty

my

bunky

Caroline · 03-24-2002, 11:57 PM

my dad likes the idea of keeping them for organ donors. like an organ farm. i like that idea too, but i dont think anyone would actually want a kidney from a rapist or a murderer.
personally, i figure if you break a law, you deserve to be punished. i used to be opposed to the idea of "an eye for an eye" but as i grow older... it's more like an eye, ear... and a few limbs for an eye. if someone ever harmed one of my loved ones... i just hope i never find out who it was.
torture is the way to go.
slow, deliberate and extremely painful.
people who do not respect life, deserve no respect in return.
and that woman, the one in texas... i hope god has a special place for her.

i cant really put all of my feelings into words about this whole topic.

i do think however, that the lord of the rings should have gotten the award for the best picture.

jennycards · 03-25-2002, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bunky
I say if u know they are gulity ...

But how can you KNOW it? There are so many people found guilty in court and finally released from death row because they wer NOT guilty.
And only god knows how many innocent people have been killed on the e-chair.
(funny enough to write about "god" on this board)

- Otto -

kmanrox · 03-25-2002, 12:04 AM

hey otto, id love to see what you'd say if you found your sister and mother raped and killed and tortured, and they found the guy with lots of evidence....

youd prolly kill him yourself, so sit down, shut up, and GO FUCK YOURSELF

baddog · 03-25-2002, 12:05 AM

I am not aware of anyone that claims the death penalty is there as a deterrent. I believe it falls more appropriately under the classification of punishment.

The only people I hear discussing the death penalty as a deterrent, are those against it. they always say it is not a deterrent. Well, that is not really the purpose. There is no deterrent to crime, as long as there are webmasters, sponsors, Soviets, Republicans, Catholic priests, cops and Al Queda there will be crime. There is nothing that will deter any of them.

I have had an idea for an alternative to the death penalty for a long time. My idea would be to turn death row into a parts house for organ transplants. As science has progressed, my idea has gained additional benefits. The main one would be mandatory DNA testing which could assist in filtering through those wrongfully accused.

jennycards · 03-25-2002, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Caroline
my dad likes the idea of keeping them for organ donors ...

This idea is nothing better than what the Nazis did when they performed "medical research" in the concentration camps. And they were also CONVINCED about the guilt of the Jews. They thought to KNOW it.

- Otto -

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mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	I saw a list of countries that have AND actually use death penalties 3rd world countries+USA not a single other Western country But my opinion,.. hmm Maybe..

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LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	First torture these fucks. Then strap 'em up and pull the switch. I'm also for a bullet to the head but something like a russian roulette style. Six guys take a turn with a gun to the head of the scum with one bullet. The last gun should be fully loaded. Plus we should all be allowed to watch on cable tv. Child molesters(this includes those Catholic scum priests), rapists etc etc. Kill 'm all and let God sort'em out! LD __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

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larry Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: UK Posts: 45	as it goes for minimum age ..... people who offend bad enough for the death penalty ...... at a young age, I personally would get rid of them but hey, Its all about second chances, Let them see other fuckers fry, let it play on their minds fo a while, lock them up for a bit, and see what happens __________________ My Bitch Better Have My Money

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Hot Tropical Babes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 3,014	I am for it. I think we would have a hell of a lot less crime. When the consequences are high stakes, people think twice before they do the crime. Here in Florida, they got rid of old "sparky" (electric chair) due to the last person they fried got a nose bleed. Well what about his victoms, I bet they had a hell of a lot more inflictions than a nose bleed. Its sickening that a woman can drown her children and then live with three squares a day and the love and support of her husband. Now I think if the husband would of done it, he would be looking at the end of the needle or life in prison by now. This world is so fucked up. I enjoyed seeing Timothy McVeigh get the needle. Too bad he couldnt suffer as the people he killed and their familes did. I dont understand why people make execution so costly and then drag it out for years. Hell ,, what does a simple bullet cost? vs. what does it cost to maintain a cold blooded killer for life? __________________ <BR> Trade with Big Tits TGP Trade with Titman

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eru Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hawai'i Posts: 2,612	Of course we should keep the death penalty. I believe we are way too lenient with it though. For the most part, USA uses the lethal injection. This method of death is totally painless for the person it is given to due to the fact that they are put under before the injection is given. Serial killers should not die like this. We should delve into their minds with intense days-long interrogations and discover their darkest fears and use these fears to kill them. I know this sounds kind of like something out of a science-fiction novel, but I think it could work. Another intresting thing to do I did read in a sci-fi novel (Chung Kuo series by David Wingrove) is to enforce a very unique type of death penalty: If someone is found guilty of murder, then that person and all of his family to the third generation will be killed. I forgot how though! -eru

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Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	I'd tell you to try harder Kman but it would strain your peanut sized brain in that little head you have. ;-) Better people have tried and can't get a rise from me. 40 yrs at 30k per is 1.2m versus average 3m for the death penalty. Now take into consideration that death lets them OUT of any punishment beyond the sweat they lose while waiting. A nice 6x8 23 hours per day x 40 yrs. Do the math. Oh and tree hugging? Please! lmao Men are tree huggers not woman. And no I don't attend all those save the whale things either. In fact I know very little about that sort of thing. I took engineering in college and thankfully they didn't insist on that sort of thing. lol What did YOU major in? Keg parties or attempting sex 101? But seriously why give them the easy out? Make them REALLY suffer for life plus ten years. Back in the olden days they wouldn't even give the body to the family. They were buried inside the prison. So even their family didn't get closure. Most true killers are sick in the head so the death threat to them is nothing. How can that deter someone already a mental case?

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Joe Blow Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My house Posts: 276	I say we should apply the death penalty Taliban style... a soccer field, hundreds of spectators, an automatic rifle and a party atmosphere... At least they had the guts to kill their citizens out in the open instead of behind closed doors. __________________ Joe Blow Clickcash give you $50 just for signing up! Offer your surfers Pay-Per-View XXX Movies!

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jennycards Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,124	<B><I>The death penalty is the ultimate cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment. It violates the right to life. It is irrevocable and can be inflicted on the innocent. It has never been shown to deter crime more effectively than other punishments.</I></B> Go to http://web.amnesty.org/rmp/dplibrary.nsf/index?openview to read more facts about the death penalty. - Otto - __________________ Make Money with true niche programs like Adult ECards - Pantyhose Fetish - Men in Pantyhose

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LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	Jenny IT DETERS THAT INDIVIDUAL from every commiting a crime again. Why do we always have to talk about detering other people??? That isn't the point. If someone is a killer and you off them, I guarantee you they will never ever kill anyone again. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal