I'll help in keeping this thread going.

When people say right off your money i think they are saying don't put all your hopes into it. But that is not to say give up trying to make these assholes pay whats due or to keep this thread in the publics eye until all outstanding amounts are paid in full.

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Seriously, I hear you. If I was in the US I would have done that months ago. If Ibill was in my country, I would have done that a long time ago.

Unfortunately, that´s not the case. EU and US webmasters have different options. Unless someone can recommend a US lawyer who will take this on for a reasonable price and work with a EU webmaster, that´s just not an option for me.

True, at this point my entire existence is not based on getting the money and somehow I suspect that I will not get them, so I´m not putting all my hopes into it. However, I do put an effort into trying to get the money.

still no word =) ?

The cery best thing that any of you can do it to hire an attorney, and make sure that you and he gets paid before the CEO of Ibill does.

PS. Its almost tax season, and you can claim that money as a loss.

I have also recieved a reply from Andrew Frederick Smith today after 2 weeks of silence and a zillion emails to every Ibill email I could find. I also mailed Christian Strohmenger, who someone mentioned in previous post. I suspect that he is the one who finally got Andrew to reply (or it´s one and the same person - at this point it would not surprise med).

The answer I got from Andew was that he didn´t knew anything. He could only tell me what "they" told him, which was that there still was a problem with the settlement payments and that he didn´t knew what the problem was. That´s what he have been telling me for 2 months now.

Didn't i see that The Score Group started an action against Ibill some time ago. Did that work out for them ? They do seem conspicuous by their absence lately?

Claude,

How much money are you talking about? Don't forget there was a hurricane in South Florida, so that is probably the reason for the delay.

Your money is safe in the Caribbean somewhere, I believe Antigua.

Ha Ha Ha !!! you just dug another 6 feet deep in the Iball's grave.

You came to the board not liking Ibill:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...993#post8695993

After a few posts you are the big crusader spreading the gospel about Ibill:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...668#post8691668

What´s up with that - what made you change your mind? Seriously?

You are not all that bright, are you?

Probably...huh Webmeister?

Was there another hurricane I didn't hear about after Nov. 6th. That was the day I was personally promised by Tom Catterson that a cheque was being cut immediately. I have it marked on my calendar here beside me in bold letters.

That was nearly three weeks ago - NO CHEQUE!

What was the intervening excuse between Nov. 6th - and now? Hail of toads? Locusts? Or did Cliff Clavin lose his way between Florida and Canada?

Oh...wait, I know. Its the Christmas season. Increased mail volumes and such - all those cheerful Xmas cards being sent. That must be it. Cheque is in the mail...on a slow boat via Istanbul.

iBalls must surely tune in to CNN on a daily basis and pray for the next natural disaster, or holiday, or any sort of event they can point to as an excuse not to deliver on their promises. They probably have events ranked on a 10-scale of how many days each one allows them to stall.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Thats Funny :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It should be obvious that they dont have the money. If they did, they would send it to you. What is it you don't understand???

speaking as an affiliate : LOVE CCBILL

never understood why people used iBill, they were horrible: software, stats and especially support sucked ass !!!

mean they would give you this affiliate number and if you didn't correspond the affiliate program, you were fucked, they wouldn't even look it up

happy people are using ccbill and nats, life has become so much better :)

how did iBill go bankrupt anyway?

no you can't. Trust me i thought the same way but have been around the block with my CPA about these types of issues ( companies that owe me money and have not paid). You can't write off a loss on money you did not receive. Basically you can't lose something you don't have. You can certainly wrote off your expenses you had from trying to make that money, etc... but if you were owed say 20K from ibill at the end of the year you don't get a 20K write off. You just have 20K less in income.

Listen here you pathetic piece of shit. I will explain what is obvious. It is obvious ibill signed an agreement to pay me 5K within 14 days of accepting the agreement the proposed to me and then 3K every 3 months for the next 2 years, with a final payment of the balance owed in 2 years. It is obvious that it has been over 2 months since ibill received this agreement from me (they confirmed this in email, that they received it), and I have not seen a penny from them.

So here is a fucking " it is obvious" for you. It is obvious they continue to lie to webmasters and that they have no intentions to carry out on new contracts they are making with people.

Shit you where last in line when they gave out brains ?
What i dont understand is why a moron like you who can hardly string two words together is even on GFY. Lens should start giving IQ tests to make sure this sort of idiot never gets to post here.

I was just copying the post so it was on this page as well. Good luck finding a legal option over in the UK. Hopefully everyone can get what is owed to them. :thumbsup

Its quite simple, really. Let me spell it out for you Mr. Webmeister.

None of us understand why they keep making specific promises of payments to be made - if they don't have the money.

But thanks for continuing to bump the thread and keep them on the front page. You're useful in that respect.

http://www.fetishopolis.com/kap-images/ibull-l.jpg

Instead of all the negativity, I would invite people here to share their POSITIVE experiences with Ibill. don't listen to the one or two malcontents.

OK.. Politeness goes so far.

Shut the fuck up you stupid asshole.

There are NO positive experiences with iBill over the last two years. "One or two malcontents" are the sum total of iBill's clients.

Now.. fuck off and play elsewhere! :321GFY

"...one or two malcontents."

Ignorance must be bliss for you.

Since you've obviously not been keeping up with current events - here's a brief summation - the only positive experiences with iBill are from iBill reps themselves.

When the overwhelming majority have been royally fucked over...why can't you comprehend the utter futility of your position here?

You're either delusional...or in complete denial of the facts.

http://www.fetishopolis.com/kap-images/ibull-d.jpg

Some interesting facts from the IBD quarterly report, posted Nov. 23 (http://biz.yahoo.com/e/051123/ibdi.ob10qsb_a.html):

Nice, they collected interest on the reserves held. Also they seem to have hefty debts, 450k interest from LOC = millions of $ in debt.lol

(Sorry if this has already been posted.)

Love that first quote in your post David. It comprises of "words" of hope and countered by "no assurances" - ie.. means nothing.

It's in keeping with the stream of "iBill moving forward" statements issued earlier.

They all need throwing in jail :winkwink:

150.........

The real problem as I see it is the lack of communication. IBill ignores people straight up when it comes to their payments. For some it hurts and who wants to loose money? For the others, those funds are the means to pay for their daily bread.

Sure - tho even when solvent they never quite refined the art of communication. (That's called sarcasm BTW)

Who knows what the truth is behind closed doors, - that may be released at some future point, - but it is clear there was an abundance of mismanagement from at least the time Galanis/Molina/Penthouse/IBD and their dogs and families took over. When banks start being "concerned" (with good reason) and announcing in advance, their intention not to continue doing business with iBill and the management then do nothing to remedy this and replace banks - their sure is some problem!

It took less than an hour when first asking some banking folks about iBill - the problem lay with the possibility of iBill management having access to millions of credit card details and the background of the management was more than dubious.

The real problem is Iball's not paying the money they promised to pay months ago. The real problem is Iball's spewing lies and deceit. The real problem is the company is still owned by the fools who caused the First Data fiasco. Lack of communication or dis information is the foundation of Iball's management strategy and always has been since we first had an account with them over 8 years ago.. :winkwink:

bump diddy bump bump for the theiving fucks

Ibill paid me for 5 years. I was a long time loyal customer. They still owe me over 30K and signed a contract with me over 2 months ago to start paying that money back. They even said the first payment was being sent to my bank account over 6 weeks ago, still no money!

Do you think I, or anyone of the tens of thousands of webmasters who they owe money, actually gives a shit about any of the positive stuff they have done when they not only refuse to pay us but continue to dick us around. For that matter even if they have done anything positive in the last year. Why don't you start us off, what have they done positive.

why do you guys keep feeding into this webmeister guy, he's obviously a troll and just yanking your chain.

it helps keep the thread going.. :2 cents:


BTW, i gave ibill until friday to make that payment they were suppose to send 2 months ago or I will turn this over to my attorney. I am one of the people who does not NEED the money but I will be damned if I walk away from it. Even if most of the money owed went to attorney fees I would do it out of principle. I have been letting them string me along for the last 4 months or so, that and the fact that I am too busy to deal with this shit on a daily basis, but from this friday on I will have a full time attorney working on it. And if they really want to piss me off about paying me I will hire someone full time just to give them bad PR. If they don't want to fucking pay me I will make evey legal effort to bring down that company and make sure all of the assholes working there are jobless and not getting paid either.

We will see how effective a booth is at the next show when I have one next to it that says" Ibill doesn't pay webmasters".