The best web site designers thread

[webaddict]

Who here on gfy is the best web site designer and why? its hard for me to choose personally I like the work of webinc.com and gamarays.com

how about you? whos your favorite?

[Machete_]

Kyle hoppes - they paid for his Ferrari

[DamageX]

Whoever delivers you great results for a price to match them.

[Harmon]

dickman

[TDF]

see sig...becuase time and quality matter

[onno]

the best designers doesnt post on gfy

[Fletch XXX]

sales count more than eye candy

[JamesK2]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

sales count more than eye candy

What he said.

Some designs look like shit but convert like a mofo... but nobody will ever say "that's the best design", simply because it doesn't look good on the eye.

[bigdog]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

sales count more than eye candy

true, but i think eye candy at least gets webmasters intrested in pushing your sites especially if you are a new company

[rezdesign]

dickman designers are fuckin awesome...

but of course you should check out xdesignstudio.com!

[borys]

Who designed Alexamodel?

[webaddict]

thanks for the fast replies guys!

[mammy]

on gfy its webinc

[GFX Wiz]

As you can tell by the varied replies, taste is subjective. As Fletch pointed out...there's eye candy and then there's effective design. I have seen crap-looking tours convert spectacularly well and pretty tours convert like shit. I have, of course, seen ugly tours that converted like shit and pretty tours convert awesome.

Bottom line is the fee a designer charges in usually in fairly direct relation to whether they KNOW what makes a tour convert and can create something that does and those who only charge a couple hundred bucks for a tour cuz they don't know what the fuck "works." All designers that KNOW how to make shit that converts DO NOT charge cheap rates

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by bigdog

true, but i think eye candy at least gets webmasters intrested in pushing your sites especially if you are a new company

you arent telling me anything.

i have worked with companies, specifically doing promo stuff that is NOT TO BE RELEASED to affiliates, as well as doing promo which WILL BE FOR AFFILIATES, and there has always been a distinction between the two.

Companies know this, I know this - having worked with companies and their programs for over 5 years now - you are correct - programs use their designs to gain affiliates as well. Which would be sort of like someone using the hype behind "amps" designs as a sell point to affiliates. look at how jason and Alex used amps name on their tours, no one needs to see a designer signature on tours.

anyone who has worked with traffic and maintaing clockthrough ratios knows that the "best design" done by the "industrys highest paid designer" doesnt mean shit in the end. That is mostly done to get affiliates.

This is why BYOT and alternate tours do so well becuase they are not done so much for the flagship (eyecandy) design - but to convert.

Ive been working with programs so long, some ask for two of things. One for affiliates, and one for in house promo and the affiliate stuff is always eye candy, and the stuff used for un house traffic generation is always much lighter on graphics, focuses on the content etc...

just like my tours

http://www.linkmytours.com

and its no doubt i left out all the eye candy and the bisexual tour is converting better than anything i have done. Was at 1:118 earlier this week and was only beat by 1 site for converting



i purposefully design my own personal stuff very stripped down and fast loading. fuck eye candy, it doesnt mean anything.

as a designer, and as someone who converts traffic. eye candy is worthless once your eyes are on the prize.

my site is #2 converting. and #6

[Yoni]

all is true what Fletch XXX says but I doubt that webmasters need crappy looking tours when hiring designers to make ones though those tours could convert better.

[Bluewire Ross]

Bluewirestudio RULES!