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TinCan 11-13-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Go fuck yourself.

Eva is the best thing that ever happened to me. Yes a model I met and married.

Now I aint sayin she's a gold digga, but she aint messin wit no broke...

Love Sex 11-13-2005 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
As I'm going out I will give you the answer.

She sells better and makes the shooter more money.

She's working with her lover, showing more than a piece of meat.

We are working in a business that's all about fantasy. For a lot of porn consumers the fantasy is that this girl will fuck him. How much better can you produce that fantasy with a girl who is thinking about making love to you, Against a girl who has a wall between her and the shooter, or even worse a shooter who has that wall?

The simple truth it if the girl is sleeping with the photographer he's working on a different level to other shooters or girls. She will sell better.

None of you clearly saw it, though some got close. most thought of some element of force or manipulation. Makes me wonder about their people skills with the opposite sex.

How ever if you are crap in bed best to leave the girl wanting you than for her to find out how crap you are. I fortunately do not have that problem and any who doubt it consider the age of my wife. :1orglaugh

The last picture I did not shoot, but is still applies to this thread.

This is question has no real answer but Im going to have to burst your bubble. My thoughts are this is just your perception of things. Im sure a much much greater magority of models do not sleep with the photogs. Its about the quality of the product and what the end user seeks. You forgot one thing marketing is a majpr factor in what sells these girls.

Lets also assume most of these girls are horny sluts, so whats the big deal to fuck another guy who will potentionly make them money. Everyone has different bussines ethics and morals. So on that note if the chick wants to bang after work, give it to them.

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
When you have achieved 1 quarter of what I have with a camera then come and talk to me. Until then keep scratching for business at $150 a set. Wanker.



And now stupid on top. Eva shoots 80% of the content we produce. Then there are the other girls shooting.

When did I say I screw the talent? When did I say I would be unfaithful to Eva?

I've seen your work, it's not so good. When you have my record with a camera come and tell me.

Dude.. you have no idea. I have never shot a set for less then twice that. What dont you get and since when do you know my rates? Fuck off!

If Eva shoots 80% of yrou content then how can you claim to be so damn good anyway? I shoot 100% of mine. Eva makes you look good Paul. If 8 out of every 10 pics on your site are hers as you claim, then you better stop fucking around on her. She is the best thing that ever happened to you... as you said.....haha shes your photographer.. hahaha

How can you lay claim to your skills when someone else shoots 80% of it?

Paul, you have said over and over for years and year how you screw the talant. This thread makes it clear you do. I mean do you read what you post?

But yeah, youre right about one thing, Im not near as good as a photgrapher as Eva is. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


I dont suck though either :winkwink:

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Jollyjoe 11-13-2005 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Belinda
It is becuase the model is exposing themself to you very intimately. That turns them on even if they don't realize it at first. The model feels sexy posing and feels vulnerable at the same time... they get all of your attention for the time they are there, listening to you tell them how beautiful and sexy they look. It makes them feel good and naughty all at the same time.. I shoot girls all the time and being female myself they still hit on me, or if they don't hit on me to my face, they ask donny if I am bi and if I would like to mess around with them. There is just something about posing nude that makes them horny I guess... But that is just my oppinion, others may have different views.

That's Hot :thumbsup

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 01:44 PM

I bump for Charlie! He fucks his models.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1
I bump for Charlie! He fucks his models.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

At least he pays them :321GFY

Citizen Cain 11-13-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Eva is the best thing that ever happened to me. Yes a model I met and married.

hahaha

fool, she can't wait untill you kick the bucket so she gets to inherit all your shit :1orglaugh

Nydahl 11-13-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
At least he pays them :321GFY

you know nothing

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl
you know nothing

:1orglaugh

Young 11-13-2005 02:20 PM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by NTSS
Because they are broke ass hoes with low self esteem?

:1orglaugh

Dagwolf 11-13-2005 02:24 PM

If you shoot me for $500 a day I'll sleep with you, Paul! :thumbsup

Nydahl 11-13-2005 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf
If you shoot me for $500 a day I'll sleep with you, Paul! :thumbsup

don't risk - you know Paul

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
At least he pays them :321GFY


You saying I dont pay my models you fucktard? Me and you are about to have a huge and I mean fucking huge problem. You feelin me boy?

Make another lie and accusation like that and watch what happens. DOnt play me Dean. You have no idea buddy!

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1
You saying I dont pay my models you fucktard? Me and you are about to have a huge and I mean fucking huge problem. You feelin me boy?

Make another lie and accusation like that and watch what happens. DOnt play me Dean. You have no idea buddy!

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

fucktard? problem? boy?

:1orglaugh

Jeff - bring on your best shot man. I know MUCH more about you then you think I do. I don't think you want to fuck around with me bro'. But if you insist....let's rock n roll then :winkwink:

Dagwolf 11-13-2005 02:33 PM

Libel/slander drama coming up soon! Stay tuned for details...

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
fucktard? problem? boy?

:1orglaugh


Yep... all of the above. You have about 30 seconds to call me and recant your lie or I will become a very big part of your world.

734-968-0404

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf
Libel/slander drama coming up soon! Stay tuned for details...

Naaaa - I doubt it. All I said was that Paul pays his models...which I'm sure is true :winkwink:

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Naaaa - I doubt it. All I said was that Paul pays his models...which I'm sure is true :winkwink:

Im sure he does.... just as you know I do you fucking little pussy. Stop playing Capt Save A Hoe and pick up your phone and all me.

tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock

Dagwolf 11-13-2005 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Naaaa - I doubt it. All I said was that Paul pays his models...which I'm sure is true :winkwink:

Oh yeah.

adultchica 11-13-2005 02:41 PM

I say some models sleep with photographers because of human nature. THey are getting stimulated taking the pics..and want to get off!

Makes sense to me.

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1
Im sure he does.... just as you know I do you fucking little pussy. Stop playing Capt Save A Hoe and pick up your phone and all me.

tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock

Jeff....is this the same threatening tone and name calling that you use to scare other people into doing what you want them to do? I'm sorry bro...this does not work for me. I have no problem picking up the phone and talking with you, but all this name calling and this threatening tone will get you nowhere with me. Now, after you apologize for threatening me and calling me names....I'll "consider" calling you. :thumbsup

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 02:44 PM

Where are you Dean? Come on! I have all afternoon to set you straight.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2005 02:45 PM

OMG this got really gay.

I mean it was gay before but it just got worse.

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Jeff....is this the same threatening tone and name calling that you use to scare other people into doing what you want them to do? I'm sorry bro...this does not work for me. I have no problem picking up the phone and talking with you, but all this name calling and this threatening tone will get you nowhere with me. Now, after you apologize for threatening me and calling me names....I'll "consider" calling you. :thumbsup

Fine.. Im sorry for calling you names, however, you should be equally as sorry for saying I dont pay my models. Give me a call and lets up this to rest. Im leaving on vacation in the morning and would love to go with a clear head.

734-968-0404

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2005 02:47 PM

http://www.shootingmaniac.com/samples/15.jpg

Nice shot. :thumbsup

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ


Thanks!

:thumbsup

Nydahl 11-13-2005 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

do you think she is willing to blow Paul up after shooting ?
edited : I know its not Pauls pic - every1 can see right

BlackCrayon 11-13-2005 03:08 PM

i'd have to say mostly because they feel they have to....

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl
do you think she is willing to blow Paul up after shooting ?
edited : I know its not Pauls pic - every1 can see right



Hahaha! Highly doubtful. For one, she speaks english and two, she makes more then $1000.00 a year. She does not need Paul as bad as those poor girls in Prague do. I call it taking advantage.

Hmmmm suck Pauls dick so I can pay rent next month or dont and never get hired back. hmmmmm.

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1
Fine.. Im sorry for calling you names, however, you should be equally as sorry for saying I dont pay my models. Give me a call and lets up this to rest. Im leaving on vacation in the morning and would love to go with a clear head.

734-968-0404

Jeff, I didn't say that you didn't pay your models. I simply said that Paul pays his. You must have a guilty concious or something? :1orglaugh

Listen, next time you want to have a phone conversation with somebody, maybe threatening them and calling them names is not the best approach. Who wants to have a conversation with someone who can't control their emotions and their behavior? I sure don't! Your a loose canon Jeff! I would just end up hanging up on you and that would probably piss you off even more and your ol' blood pressure probably ain't what it used to me huh?

If you want to be treated and respected as a professional - you need to start acting like one. Constantly changing your identity and lying about who you really are is not something that a professional would do. Sending threatening emails to models to pressure them into keeping their mouth shut about their experience working with you is not something that a professional would do. I think your damn lucky that anybody would do business with you after all the shit that you've pulled but I guess there's room for everybody in this industry. Nothing surprises me anymore about people in this industry :Oh crap

pussyluver 11-13-2005 04:11 PM

A professional model should be able to fake (act) like she wants to fuck you while she is in front of the camera. Photo lights go off, she gets dressed and is on her way...

I get your concept Paul, this is not the first time you have explained it on GFY.

The way you're painting the picture you'd have to fuck every model to get quaility product for your clients. Guess I'll leave the content production to you and Araon. I don't want to fuck every model (maybe half of 'em?). BTW Do any Tranny content? Does the same thing apply? Just given ya shit Paul. Enjoy!

xcitecash 11-13-2005 04:14 PM

A Good Photographer Would Never Sleep With His Model

Work Is Work

Be Fucking Professional

Redrob 11-13-2005 04:19 PM

Very talented models in the picts!

SinisterStudios 11-13-2005 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
You don't even understand the question do you?

Duh what was the question again???? Yes i understand the question and i was making a statement, not neccesarily towards you. I would never fuck any of the models that come through our studio, and i have a rule that my crew is also not allowed to touch them while in the studio either or i fire them on the spot. Bragging that you fuck the models is just stupid.

thewebgarage 11-13-2005 04:29 PM

to advance their career your the new Hef

tranza 11-13-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Corona
They sleep with everyone and since you are a photographer you notice they sleep with a bunch of photographers

he's not a photographer, but i agree

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Jeff, I didn't say that you didn't pay your models. I simply said that Paul pays his. You must have a guilty concious or something? :1orglaugh

Please dont play coy Dean. You knew exactly what you were implying. Spin it anyway you like. There was purpose in yoru statement and you know it as did everyone else that read it. Dont insult yourself.

You dont know me well enough to know if I am a loose canon or not. Im about the easist going guy you were ever meet. However, being attacked here on a daily bases with claims such as you have made makes me very defensive an franky, I have a right to defend myself in the manner I see fit. If you had been a professional, you would have contacted me, got my side of the story on this issue, not brought it to gfy and at least hadenough info to make an informed decison on the actual events. Trust me, it was FAR from the way you have painted it. And you know full well that models always tell he "truth". I know three other photographers, two of which you know well that have had very similar expeniences with this girl. Shes a known liar. There also another programthat shot her who she trashed when she was shooting for us. Same exact sitauation. Come to find out.. those claims she made were untrue also. I will give you the info in private of course. Shes a sweet as pie and sucked me in also... I never let models and their families stay at my home, but I did her their case. Like a fool.. I trusted her and her husband and I NEVER gave them a reason to not trust me. I sent her an email with what was going on and the first words out of her mouth were "FUCK YOU JEFF". After all I did for her and booking her, paying her ontime, everytime, avancing them 1500.00 for her wedding ring so she coud get married. Advancing them $500.00 so they could take teir daughter away for the weekend and I get a "Fuck You"? I dont think so. Regardless, I did exactly what I said I would do and when I said I would do it... a day early in both cases. My only regret is that I dont have that young lady taking depositions with my Laywer right now. Talking about "her expeiences" is one thing... making up lies and mis-representing the truth is another.

I went after you because you were making claims without having al the info. I will do it again, without hesitation. Im a very easy going guy Dean and a ton of fun actually, but Im not some kid that is going to just roll over when soemone throws a dart.

You are intitled to your opinion of course, but as a professional, make sure its an informed one before you hit the send button.

:thumbsup

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 05:18 PM

Your a good one to be telling me what is and isn't professional. I'm not the one who changes my nic regularly and lies about who I am. I'm not the one who spent all that time and energy trying to convince everyone that I was somebody else. When you grow the fuck up and start taking some responsibility for who you are, what you've done and how you act...then you and I can have a mature convo.

Congratulations, I've just added you to my ignore list. You and AlienQ should be honored. You two dipshits deserve each other.

Say whatever you wanna say Jeff - I will not be reading or responding to anymore of your pathetic excuses. You want so badly for people to believe that your a good honest guy but your past cannot escape you.

:321GFY

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Congratulations, I've just added you to my ignore list. You and AlienQ should be honored. You two dipshits deserve each other.

LOL...

What a joke.

latinasojourn 11-13-2005 06:42 PM

because the pro shooter knows how to talk to the girl to get the shots he needs.

and if he's doing his job right she feels very special and very beautiful during the shoot, and things do get pretty intimate, pretty close.

and if the photographer is the least bit attractive and he wants the girl, he can usually have the girl.

been there. done that (many times) in my formative years.

Sebastian Sands 11-13-2005 06:50 PM

they like?....

NoWhErE 11-13-2005 06:56 PM

Simple, a women's sexual drive is powered by men with Power. A photographer has power when it comes to Models, so they are turned on.

Same thing goes for nurses towards their bosses etc.




Oh and the fact that most women are total sluts is also a keyfactor.

tony286 11-13-2005 07:10 PM

too me fucking models is very very unprofessional.

fr0gman 11-13-2005 07:21 PM

I worked in the strip club busine3ss for 11 years and I can tell you that the majority of strippers are having sex with DJ's, bartenders and managers at an alarming rate. It is not about the money because if it was they would be sleeping with the customers more than they do. I was never able to find the root of the phenomenon, but then again I did not really have the time to look. I was mainly too busy banging strippers to concern myself with the esoteric.

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Your a good one to be telling me what is and isn't professional. I'm not the one who changes my nic regularly and lies about who I am. I'm not the one who spent all that time and energy trying to convince everyone that I was somebody else. When you grow the fuck up and start taking some responsibility for who you are, what you've done and how you act...then you and I can have a mature convo.

Congratulations, I've just added you to my ignore list. You and AlienQ should be honored. You two dipshits deserve each other.

Say whatever you wanna say Jeff - I will not be reading or responding to anymore of your pathetic excuses. You want so badly for people to believe that your a good honest guy but your past cannot escape you.

:321GFY

Cool you cant read it.... SUCK MY MOTHER FUCKING COCK YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dude i was just trying to be nice. YOu want ot ignore other side of the story, thats cool. She must have gave you some ass. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Thats the only thing that justifies your lack of interest in the other side of the story. haha

Fine, ignore me. Other then you rpic, you have nothing of value anyways.

:321GFY

MaDalton 11-14-2005 08:07 PM

some threads are really amazing...

for the records: i never fucked any model... - but i know it happens. but when it happens: please after the shooting and without any pressure like "blow me or i don't pay you". i heard things like that happen - and that's truly sick. :2 cents:

Dagwolf 11-14-2005 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
too me fucking models is very very unprofessional.

That's a little ironic coming from you! :winkwink: Of course, it's a little different when you're married to the model.

detoxed 11-14-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
No I'm asking why do we shoot them more when it costs us $1,000 a day.


Well any girl would cost $1,000 a day, the girls you fuck obviously think they are going to be working more days. Just my 2 cents. Just a response to that particular post, not the thread.

detoxed 11-14-2005 08:21 PM

Simply: women fuck males that they are around a lot. If you work with someone your chance to bang them is raised :)

GlydeGirl 11-14-2005 08:34 PM

In my three years as talent, I NEVER fucked a photographer or, for that matter, any other talent I worked with.

Wow... some of you get really fooled about models being all turned on "for real" during a shoot. When I was working, I was so busy thinking about camera angles, getting the best positions, creating the right mood for the shoot, and getting the best content possible that I was not at all interested in any off-the-books sex after a gig! In fact, I'd usually be off the menu for my guy that night too!

Those of you who fuck the talent, get your action somewhere else! Just because we're good at convincing you that we're all hot and horny for the camera, don't try and get a little piece for yourself! That's very icky!


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