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Mr.Right - Banned For Life 11-13-2005 02:07 AM

50........

I have always wanted to do that

sonofsam 11-13-2005 02:07 AM

batts.... this means war :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Well.....your a pornographer with a good eye :winkwink:

Not the only good part of me.

sonofsam 11-13-2005 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Not the only good part of me.

your earlobe?

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 11-13-2005 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
batts.... this means war :1orglaugh

Sorry mate, it has been my life long fantasy to post 50 :1orglaugh , now i have to think of a differnt fantasy

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Batts
50........

I have always wanted to do that

Good for you man - you fucking ROCK :thumbsup

DeanCapture 11-13-2005 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
your earlobe?

:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Fuck this shit...

This thread needs pics.

http://www.ialien.com/riley/pic6.jpg

Very true and if I had pics to show I would do. But at home and don't know what on ths server.

ServerGenius 11-13-2005 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

You should actually paint these and sell them on tradeshows....you'd make a fortune...... :thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2005 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Very true and if I had pics to show I would do. But at home and don't know what on ths server.


Ehh it just gives us a reason to bump this thread tomarrow :thumbsup

Corona 11-13-2005 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
But you are missing the point, that could be why they sleep with us. But why do we shoot them again and again?

I see what you are asking now but it was a bit unclear in your inital post.

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:22 AM

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/0703.jpg

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Corona
I see what you are asking now but it was a bit unclear in your inital post.

Sorry, so the question is

"Why do we shoot more of a model who wants to sleep with us?"

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:29 AM

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/latin.jpg

This shows you the answer.

But you have to think about it.

Pipecrew 11-13-2005 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Sorry, so the question is

"Why do we shoot more of a model who wants to sleep with us?"

ego?
Wanting to get your moneys worth? (how you phrased the other question) just my assumption, I dont know how all this shit works.

Belinda 11-13-2005 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Sorry, so the question is

"Why do we shoot more of a model who wants to sleep with us?"

Because you are flattered that she wants to sleep with you....

Walrus 11-13-2005 02:33 AM

Is shooting solo girls considered being a "pornographer"? You still have to learn the art of photography to do that.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2005 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/latin.jpg

This shows you the answer.

But you have to think about it.

Because it is hard to say no. :1orglaugh

And I am oughtah here, time for bed.

phonesex 11-13-2005 02:34 AM

I've always wanted to get into that side of the biz. I'm one step closer now.

leg4 11-13-2005 02:49 AM

What is the Answer PAUL??????????????????

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew
ego?
Wanting to get your moneys worth? (how you phrased the other question) just my assumption, I dont know how all this shit works.

A magazine shoot day costs $500 for the model, $500 for the film, the camera and lens are usually around the $2,000 and upwards level. The strobe lights are $1,000 each and I use 3 to 5 to light a set.

Then there is make up, assistants, location, and a few other things. How do you even dream that me getting laid is "Getting my moneys worth"

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Belinda
Because you are flattered that she wants to sleep with you....

Always flattered and hooured that woman would sleep with me, but still not the reason I shoot her. That's the reason I take her out to dinner. $100 worth.

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Walrus
Is shooting solo girls considered being a "pornographer"? You still have to learn the art of photography to do that.

Yes if you do it right.

Dax 11-13-2005 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
A magazine shoot day costs $500 for the model, $500 for the film, the camera and lens are usually around the $2,000 and upwards level. The strobe lights are $1,000 each and I use 3 to 5 to light a set.

Then there is make up, assistants, location, and a few other things. How do you even dream that me getting laid is "Getting my moneys worth"

Are u trying to say that they sleep with photogs cuz they think they are rich ?

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by leg4
What is the Answer PAUL??????????????????

As I'm going out I will give you the answer.

She sells better and makes the shooter more money.

She's working with her lover, showing more than a piece of meat.

We are working in a business that's all about fantasy. For a lot of porn consumers the fantasy is that this girl will fuck him. How much better can you produce that fantasy with a girl who is thinking about making love to you, Against a girl who has a wall between her and the shooter, or even worse a shooter who has that wall?

The simple truth it if the girl is sleeping with the photographer he's working on a different level to other shooters or girls. She will sell better.

None of you clearly saw it, though some got close. most thought of some element of force or manipulation. Makes me wonder about their people skills with the opposite sex.

How ever if you are crap in bed best to leave the girl wanting you than for her to find out how crap you are. I fortunately do not have that problem and any who doubt it consider the age of my wife. :1orglaugh

The last picture I did not shoot, but is still applies to this thread.

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dax
Are u trying to say that they sleep with photogs cuz they think they are rich ?

They might do, but not answering the question.

Nydahl 11-13-2005 04:45 AM

are you on drugs or what Paul ?
The most of all models (including softcore ladies) are fucking dirty , and they smell like fish.Also 99% of hardcore girls went through terrible issues in thier pussy
I wouldn't even touch them
So if you fuck your models then I am happy I don't belong to this club - jesus.

JFK 11-13-2005 04:57 AM

Paul is a real Chick Magnet :thumbsup
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...nus/z02885.jpg

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...nus/z02887.jpg

she could hardly wait to get a hold of him :1orglaugh
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...nus/z02888.jpg

Fletch XXX 11-13-2005 07:14 AM

people who brag about fucking their models show their true call to this business.

and its in this thread that you can see how people fucking their models has even started shit and caused girls to close affiliate programs or change them.

brag all you want, but you lose more than respect when you brag about how many of the content girls you fuck.

its funny how lame some people really are.

i hope they all die of aids.

ps: every content shooter i know brags about how many girls they shoot and fuck.

how many content shooters actually keep one of the talent girls as a wife? they may fuck them but they will never marry.

LadyMischief 11-13-2005 07:18 AM

Personally, I'm not really into having personal relationships with my models... it just makes things way too complicated, although I must say I've had more than a few models try.

It's easy enough to find play partners outside of my business, I really don't like to take any chances or risks to try to play with my work associates (and models fall in that category)

beemk 11-13-2005 07:26 AM

the girls probably take better pictures when its a guy who they have fucked before behind the camera. i'm sure they get more into it than they would with some guy they barely know and feel nervous.

MandyBlake 11-13-2005 07:38 AM

i honestly don't think a photographer should ever fuck around with his/her models.

Machete_ 11-13-2005 07:41 AM

Paul: you come of as such a self-centered ego tripping attention whore in this post its not even funny.. I always respected your work, but now you have tainted that image with one stupid post showing us one truely ugly side of your personality

I know you don't care about it... but that is just my 2 cents

Citizen Cain 11-13-2005 07:56 AM

because they are whore who will do anything for money?

just a guess

SinisterStudios 11-13-2005 08:28 AM

Personally i think it is very very unprofessional to fuck the models, but with some photographers this is the only way they can get laid.

Manowar 11-13-2005 08:31 AM

for the $$$?

bigdog 11-13-2005 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt
because a good nude photographer knows how to make a model feel like the sexiest girl on earth in front of his camera.

it's a gift - Stephen Hicks has it - my partner John has it. I sent him to Minneapolis about 2 months ago to test shoot 5 girls over two days. He came back and I asked him how it went - he said 'tired - worn out' - he went for 5 for 5 :1orglaugh

You could have all the charm in the world but if you are ugly ain't going to make a difference

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl
are you on drugs or what Paul ?
The most of all models (including softcore ladies) are fucking dirty , and they smell like fish.Also 99% of hardcore girls went through terrible issues in thier pussy
I wouldn't even touch them
So if you fuck your models then I am happy I don't belong to this club - jesus.

Well maybe we shoot a different type of girl. I know some of the girls you're talking about and I would agree with you for them.

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 08:40 AM

This thread is a riot. What type of photographer would brag about fucking their teenage models and expect to get resepct for that? Ummm Paul would i guess.. If I ever fucked one of my girls, I sure would never tell the world about it. I would be to damn ashamed of myself. You go Paul.. keep fucking those 18 year old that can barely speack English if at all and throw your money at them like you are the Great White Hope. Thats really impressive.

Lord, a 60 plus year old man talking about his "tool". Get in a chatroom buddy.


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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
people who brag about fucking their models show their true call to this business.

and its in this thread that you can see how people fucking their models has even started shit and caused girls to close affiliate programs or change them.

brag all you want, but you lose more than respect when you brag about how many of the content girls you fuck.

its funny how lame some people really are.

i hope they all die of aids.

ps: every content shooter i know brags about how many girls they shoot and fuck.

how many content shooters actually keep one of the talent girls as a wife? they may fuck them but they will never marry.

:thumbsup

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
how many content shooters actually keep one of the talent girls as a wife? they may fuck them but they will never marry.

Go fuck yourself.

Eva is the best thing that ever happened to me. Yes a model I met and married.

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk
the girls probably take better pictures when its a guy who they have fucked before behind the camera. i'm sure they get more into it than they would with some guy they barely know and feel nervous.

Got it in one.

Some of the people here simply do not have a clue that they are in the sex industry and people get hot. Maybe they work so cold and detatched it never happens to them.

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Go fuck yourself.

Eva is the best thing that ever happened to me. Yes a model I met and married.


So you fuck around on her also? I thoght you were married and you still screw the talant. Lord, poor girl. She might be the best thing that ever happened to you, but youre the worst thing that has ever happened to her if you do all the modeling fucking you do.

:mad:

gangbangjoe 11-13-2005 08:45 AM

is it to late for a sig spot already ?

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SinisterStudios
Personally i think it is very very unprofessional to fuck the models, but with some photographers this is the only way they can get laid.

You don't even understand the question do you?

Shooting_Maniac1 11-13-2005 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Got it in one.

Some of the people here simply do not have a clue that they are in the sex industry and people get hot. Maybe they work so cold and detatched it never happens to them.


You can get a model hot without fucking them. The girls leave here dripping, but I still dont have to fuck them. Get them hot? Yes! Take adavantage? No!

Extreme Holly 11-13-2005 08:46 AM

Models are likely to sleep with anyone they want to. To sleep with a photographer....well who knows what kind of benefits come along with that.

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1
This thread is a riot. What type of photographer would brag about fucking their teenage models and expect to get resepct for that? Ummm Paul would i guess.. If I ever fucked one of my girls, I sure would never tell the world about it. I would be to damn ashamed of myself. You go Paul.. keep fucking those 18 year old that can barely speack English if at all and throw your money at them like you are the Great White Hope. Thats really impressive.

Lord, a 60 plus year old man talking about his "tool". Get in a chatroom buddy.

:thumbsup

When you have achieved 1 quarter of what I have with a camera then come and talk to me. Until then keep scratching for business at $150 a set. Wanker.

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So you fuck around on her also? I thoght you were married and you still screw the talant. Lord, poor girl. She might be the best thing that ever happened to you, but youre the worst thing that has ever happened to her if you do all the modeling fucking you do.
And now stupid on top. Eva shoots 80% of the content we produce. Then there are the other girls shooting.

When did I say I screw the talent? When did I say I would be unfaithful to Eva?

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You can get a model hot without fucking them. The girls leave here dripping, but I still dont have to fuck them. Get them hot? Yes! Take adavantage? No!
I've seen your work, it's not so good. When you have my record with a camera come and tell me.

Lee 11-13-2005 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Still totally missing the question.

Maybe so but the pic does look like you :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Extreme Holly
Models are likely to sleep with anyone they want to. To sleep with a photographer....well who knows what kind of benefits come along with that.

Some of them are and these are the ones who you don't want to shoot because they are desperate for work. If a model does it for the money it does not work the same way.

When you work for magazines you're in a business where editors see 10 times the amount of work they need, so 90% ends up being thrown out. Usually because it's not right.

You do nothing to distance or upset the model, the look in her eyes is very important. Then things like the pose and setting come us. I'm the most magazine published content provider on the Internet. While some fools work for companies who will but anything so long as its $150 a set. I work for magazines who pay up to $2500 for solo girl. A single solo girl set will sell 5-6 times and gross $3,000 to $5,000.

So what makes the difference? Well sometimes it's because the photographer and model work so well together they get more out of the shoot than usual. And sometimes it's because they're intimate and the relationship is coming out in the pictures. This makes the girl's work more saleble, therefore she comes back and gets more work.

But I'm getting told how to work by a guy who shoots at a price level I would not drop to.

Paul Markham 11-13-2005 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Maniac1
You can get a model hot without fucking them. The girls leave here dripping, but I still dont have to fuck them. Get them hot? Yes! Take adavantage? No!

So if you so good why aren't you shooting for magazines as well as the Internet?

Or do you prefer to shoot for $150 a set?


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