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Sosa · 11-03-2005, 12:21 PM

Those of you that have a Palm or Treo can you tell me what you like or dislike about them? I'm trying to decide on one of them when a new cell provider moves into town in a few months. The blackberry to me looks alot bigger and wider and not sure how I would like that compared to a Treo. Whichone has better apps, games, etc?

smack · 11-03-2005, 12:42 PM

the blackberry is actually slightly more compact. it is a little thicker i believe, but the treo is taller and wider, and the keyboard is smaller.

but then again, i like my PDA's like i like my women, thick and black.

Sosa · 11-03-2005, 12:52 PM

damn in the pics that I seen, the treo didn't look to be as wide. I'll have to really check them both out.

Would still like more opinions from others as well.

Young · 11-03-2005, 12:58 PM

Depends, are you more of an organizer or an e-mail'er?

If you're more into organizing and don't rely on getting your e-mail ASAP then go with the Treo. It runs on Palms software and definately is more of an organizer then the Blackberry. As far as e-mailing goes you can DL programs that will have the Treo Poll for Pop3 e-mails ala Outlook. Some people told me you actually have to physically log-in to view your e-mail.

If you're like me...and you're all about E-Mail then the Blackberry is for you. E-Mail is literally instant. I recieve it the moment someone sends it, and the moment I reply they recieve my response. It really is amazing. Its faster than text messaging . The Blackberry comes with a full featured Calendar that easily synchs with both Lotus Notes and Microsoft Outlook. It also comes with "Tasks checklist" and "MemoPad" both of which can be synched through Notes and Outlook.

Both have HTML browsers, the only Blackberry with a speakerphone is the one available through Nextel. Unless you go with the 7100. Hopefully that answers your questions.

Bomber8888 · 11-03-2005, 01:26 PM

Go with the Treo .. i love it.. can't live without!

Triple 6 · 11-03-2005, 01:30 PM

treo 600 (also the 650 i believe) have had recalls due to hardware/software conflicts. You can pick up a 600 on ebay, refurb, like $200...

JFK · 11-03-2005, 01:45 PM

crackberry all the way

quiet · 11-03-2005, 01:48 PM

i'm all about the blackberry.

Anthony · 11-03-2005, 01:54 PM

TREO 650. Or wait 4 or 5 months for the TREO 700W windows os.

I havve the 650. Love it, can't live without it. God knows I have tried.

G-Rotica · 11-03-2005, 02:05 PM

Dell Axim, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, even CF-GPS if I need it. Email thru bluetooth on my cell phone or free wi-fi at an starbucks. And it's an organizer, with Pocket Word and Excel. Runs on Windows mobile 2003 or 2005.

fetishblog · 11-03-2005, 02:07 PM

I loved my Treo 650 before I ditched Sprint's shitty network.

born · 11-03-2005, 02:15 PM

I have used both the Treo 600 & 650. I still use the 650. It is a great device. I have compared it to the guys in my office that uses the BlackBerry.... I personallly think the Treo has more to offer. Go with the 650 if you are going to get one (not the 600)... The fast home & edit keys on the phone is a nice feature (on the 650)...

The camera on both of the 600 & 650 are pretty crapy.... The 650 is a lot better then the 600 but still not all that great. The VersaMail that comes on the treo 650 is a great email client and works well....

Hope this helps.

B-

Triple 6 · 11-03-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

TREO 650. Or wait 4 or 5 months for the TREO 700W windows os.

I havve the 650. Love it, can't live without it. God knows I have tried.

oooooooooooo yes! i had no idea there would be a windows treo.

im sooo waiting

all the other pda phones with windows are utter shit, but i lovvvvve the pda win OS. I have had a few ipaqs in my time

MacDaddyPlaya · 11-03-2005, 02:29 PM

I have a Blackberry and can't really say I would recommend it. It does a lot of different things, but it only does them ok.

BigRod · 11-03-2005, 02:33 PM

I have had 3 Treo 650s die on me.. I hate them the Blackberry Rocks!

Anthony · 11-03-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple 6

oooooooooooo yes! i had no idea there would be a windows treo.

im sooo waiting

all the other pda phones with windows are utter shit, but i lovvvvve the pda win OS. I have had a few ipaqs in my time

Werd! Soon as it comes out, I'm buying one. I'll keep the 650 just in case something goes wrong.

dooglas · 11-03-2005, 02:37 PM

I love my blackberry but I don't have much experience with the Treo.

Sosa · 11-03-2005, 02:41 PM

damn. I was hoping there was a clear winner between the two. I'll mostly be using it to talk on, check email/stats when I travel which isn't that often. Check out the lines on sports games if possible and maybe make the bets. I've never used a phone for WAP sites before so I will be all new to it.

Sosa · 11-03-2005, 02:42 PM

also use it to store appointments and shit like that but I won't use it for that very often.

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 03:37 PM

As someone that handles all the phones in our company, (3000+) the blackberry's are the clear winner. The treo's do what's called a pull for the e-mail and the quickest you can pull is 5 minutes. We have a Blackberry Enterprise Server and over 2500 blackberry's. The users get there e-mail sometimes before it shows up in their outlook on our Exchange 2003 server. The keys are bigger on the blackberry's and they are almost bullet proof. The treo's reset a lot for no reason, dropped and missed calls. There's a class action lawsuit against Palm right now because they know of all the issues with them but aren't doing anything to address them.

We tried the i730 phones and they were ok but not stable, they should just put a reboot key on anything with the windows OS on it.

If you have a big enough company, get the BES 4 server for your blackberry's or get a hosting company like mailstreet to handle it for you, then EVERYTHING in outlook is synced up and you won't ever need to connect your device to your system to do any syncing.

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 03:40 PM

If you have any questions, let me know. I take care of a few other companies on the side and their Blackberry servers.

Sosa · 11-03-2005, 03:48 PM

thanks for that info!

Penthouse_mike · 11-03-2005, 03:53 PM

I travel a lot so I love my blackberry. The phone works where ever I go, and back in the states I get my email to my bberry sooner than it shows up in Entourage.

All the Penthouse Pets seem to love the Treo tho.

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Penthouse_mike

All the Penthouse Pets seem to love the Treo tho.

Yea because of the camera in them more then likely so they can take pictures of themselves and shit like that.

I liked the treo a lot but it was a bitch for typing out e-mails compared to the keys on the blackberry. It also crashed a lot when downloading e-mails with attachments. Since we run citrix on our network, I liked it because i could access our servers from anywhere but then the i730 was better for someone like me that handles the servers because of the citrix client. I carry the blackberry all the time and use that 98% of the time but when I need to access my servers for some reason, I pull out the i730 and do it. Works good when I'm in my treestand during hunting season.

BlueWire · 11-03-2005, 04:03 PM

Totally depends on what use you want. If you want a cool toy, get a blackberry...cant go wrong

If you want a serious business tool. Hands down treo. Anyone who tells you differently hasnt used one

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

Totally depends on what use you want. If you want a cool toy, get a blackberry...cant go wrong

If you want a serious business tool. Hands down treo. Anyone who tells you differently hasnt used one

I think you have the 2 mixed up. The treo is a great Toy but the Blackberry is a great business tool. You still have to hook up the treo to your system to do all the syncing that the Blackberry can do without that.

If someone loses a blackberry, they can contact me and I can have the thing wipped clean and locked over the air in real time, if someone loses a treo, all their information is there for whomever finds it.

That alone is worth it for security reasons. The blackberry even has better a better radio in them and that means better coverage.

And yes I've used them both, Right now I have a treo, i730 and a blackberry with me and out of the 3 of them, the treo has the most problems.

http://www.mobiletracker.net/archive...palm-sued-treo

Read that and see for yourself all the problems that most treo users have. The people that don't have any problems are rare.

smack · 11-03-2005, 04:11 PM

oh, by the way, my blackberry is a 7250. i have played with a couple other BB models, and they suck.

they are alot larger and alot of them don't have bluetooth. so if you're gonna get a blackberry the 7250 is the way to go.

i think it ultimately comes down to personal preference though. i wasn't really interested in something with a camera and mp3 player, also i found the treo to be less comfortable to type on and use as a phone.

just go down to the store and play with each of them a little bit. i am sure one will stand out over the other.

Mr. Jim · 11-03-2005, 04:11 PM

I have had the 7100 t and the treo 600

thisis what i have been most satisfied with

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 04:12 PM

Are you with Verizon? We're using the 7250's also. matter of fact the 7250's are supposed to get a new firmware update sometime this month that enables EDVO.

smack · 11-03-2005, 04:14 PM

i have verizon, what is EDVO?

smack · 11-03-2005, 04:19 PM

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EVDO or Evolution Data Only,Evolution Data Optimized, often abbreviated as EVDO, EV-DO, EvDO, 1xEV-DO or 1xEvDO, is a fast wireless broadband access (3G) without needing a WiFi hotspot (a common misspelling is EDVO). You are the hotspot. You can have fast internet access, anywhere. No need to find a hotspot. For example, get high speed internet access in a car, train, clients, anywhere you can open your laptop.

http://www.evdoinfo.com/EVDO/Info/Wh...O?_2005021237/

their high speed access?

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 04:20 PM

EVDO or Evolution Data Only,Evolution Data Optimized, often abbreviated as EVDO, EV-DO, EvDO, 1xEV-DO or 1xEvDO, is a fast wireless broadband access (3G) without needing a WiFi hotspot (a common misspelling is EDVO). You are the hotspot. You can have fast internet access, anywhere. No need to find a hotspot. For example, get high speed internet access in a car, train, clients, anywhere you can open your laptop.

The I730 posted above has it enabled and it works quite well when your in an area with it. Plus if your surfing the net with EDVO, you will get all your calls also. with 1X, if your getting e-mail, your calls goto voicemail. that's another reason I like the blackberry's over the treo because it's instant. If I have a dozen e-mails that the treo is downloading and I get a call, it goes to voicemail, where on my blackberry, it get's the e-mail as soon as it arrives and I've yet to miss a call.

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 04:22 PM

You can also visit http://www.blackberryforums.org/ and see what other people have to say.

smack · 11-03-2005, 04:22 PM

actually i was fortunate enough to get that a couple months ago. my aunt works there and hooked me up with it shortly after all their employees received it.

skoalman · 11-03-2005, 04:38 PM

Here's another thread that compares the 2 and shows what's better.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/show...94&postcount=3

Sosa · 11-03-2005, 04:47 PM

Well I can't get it yet or try them out because the provider is just moving into town here. I could drive a little bit and check them out at one of their other stores though.
Either of them have newer models coming out soon as in the next 3 months that I should just wait for?

marzzo · 11-03-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

http://www.evdoinfo.com/EVDO/Info/Wh...O?_2005021237/

their high speed access?

FedEX just dropped off my LG vx9800 a few hours ago, I can't wait to fire it up

It uses EV-DO too which is available in most major US cities. I've been wanting another good reason to switch from Sprint and I don't quite like the width of the BB or Treos.

http://www.mobiledia.com/shop/lg/vx9800.html

Judging from all the reviews I read I thought the vx9800 would be bigger than it looks in the pictures but it's actually pretty damn compact, just a wee bit bigger than a pack of smokes. I wasn't looking for a full-on PDA but just something that I can surf the web with, check emails, IM, and take pics with. The MP3 player and widescreen stereo theatre is a nice frivolous bonus, as is the miniSD slot for storing 1 Gig of media ;)

reynold · 11-03-2005, 07:54 PM

Treo 650, though I don't have it yet.

reed_4 · 11-03-2005, 11:12 PM

Those two PDAs are all good but i suggest you go for the Treo.

Young · 11-03-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

oh, by the way, my blackberry is a 7250. i have played with a couple other BB models, and they suck.

Nextel 7520....Speakerphone. Direct Connect. Bluetooth.

SeniorX · 11-04-2005, 01:09 AM

Treo is better than blackberry. You might want to read http://blog.treonauts.com/

BlueWire · 11-04-2005, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by skoalman

I think you have the 2 mixed up. The treo is a great Toy but the Blackberry is a great business tool. You still have to hook up the treo to your system to do all the syncing that the Blackberry can do without that.

If someone loses a blackberry, they can contact me and I can have the thing wipped clean and locked over the air in real time, if someone loses a treo, all their information is there for whomever finds it.

That alone is worth it for security reasons. The blackberry even has better a better radio in them and that means better coverage.

And yes I've used them both, Right now I have a treo, i730 and a blackberry with me and out of the 3 of them, the treo has the most problems.

http://www.mobiletracker.net/archive...palm-sued-treo

Read that and see for yourself all the problems that most treo users have. The people that don't have any problems are rare.

You are so unbelievibly wrong. The palm format of the Treo opens up to 100's of thousands of applications I can use.

I can ftp to my servers, shell access, I can remotely access files off my pc , I can make quick edits on web pages or scripts that go wrong, I can hook up my treo to my laptop with PDANet and get internet anywhere my cellphone works on my laptop.

They are 2 different things completely and the blackberry is a nice tool and i would argue that maybe its easier to use for instant messaging and emailing....but if you're in IT field...its not even a question

And about the lawsuit thing...thats just people wanting money. Myself and everyone i know have never had a problem with it. The only people who have problems with it are the same people who get an error on their pc and think that its broken

11-03-2005, 12:21 PM	#1
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	Treo or Blackberry? Those of you that have a Palm or Treo can you tell me what you like or dislike about them? I'm trying to decide on one of them when a new cell provider moves into town in a few months. The blackberry to me looks alot bigger and wider and not sure how I would like that compared to a Treo. Whichone has better apps, games, etc?

11-03-2005, 12:42 PM	#2
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	the blackberry is actually slightly more compact. it is a little thicker i believe, but the treo is taller and wider, and the keyboard is smaller. but then again, i like my PDA's like i like my women, thick and black. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

11-03-2005, 12:58 PM	#4
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	Depends, are you more of an organizer or an e-mail'er? If you're more into organizing and don't rely on getting your e-mail ASAP then go with the Treo. It runs on Palms software and definately is more of an organizer then the Blackberry. As far as e-mailing goes you can DL programs that will have the Treo Poll for Pop3 e-mails ala Outlook. Some people told me you actually have to physically log-in to view your e-mail. If you're like me...and you're all about E-Mail then the Blackberry is for you. E-Mail is literally instant. I recieve it the moment someone sends it, and the moment I reply they recieve my response. It really is amazing. Its faster than text messaging . The Blackberry comes with a full featured Calendar that easily synchs with both Lotus Notes and Microsoft Outlook. It also comes with "Tasks checklist" and "MemoPad" both of which can be synched through Notes and Outlook. Both have HTML browsers, the only Blackberry with a speakerphone is the one available through Nextel. Unless you go with the 7100. Hopefully that answers your questions. __________________ ★★★

11-03-2005, 01:26 PM	#5
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11-03-2005, 12:52 PM	#3
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	damn in the pics that I seen, the treo didn't look to be as wide. I'll have to really check them both out. Would still like more opinions from others as well.

11-03-2005, 01:45 PM	#7
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,374	crackberry all the way __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

11-03-2005, 01:48 PM	#8
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i'm all about the blackberry. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

11-03-2005, 01:54 PM	#9
Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	TREO 650. Or wait 4 or 5 months for the TREO 700W windows os. I havve the 650. Love it, can't live without it. God knows I have tried. __________________

11-03-2005, 02:05 PM	#10
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	Dell Axim, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, even CF-GPS if I need it. Email thru bluetooth on my cell phone or free wi-fi at an starbucks. And it's an organizer, with Pocket Word and Excel. Runs on Windows mobile 2003 or 2005. __________________

11-03-2005, 02:07 PM	#11
fetishblog Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Your mom is my favorite pornstar!#% Posts: 5,995	I loved my Treo 650 before I ditched Sprint's shitty network. __________________ Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!

11-03-2005, 02:15 PM	#12
born Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: BMore, MD Posts: 588	I have used both the Treo 600 & 650. I still use the 650. It is a great device. I have compared it to the guys in my office that uses the BlackBerry.... I personallly think the Treo has more to offer. Go with the 650 if you are going to get one (not the 600)... The fast home & edit keys on the phone is a nice feature (on the 650)... The camera on both of the 600 & 650 are pretty crapy.... The 650 is a lot better then the 600 but still not all that great. The VersaMail that comes on the treo 650 is a great email client and works well.... Hope this helps. B-

11-03-2005, 02:29 PM	#14
MacDaddyPlaya Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Just north of Cuba Posts: 1,785	I have a Blackberry and can't really say I would recommend it. It does a lot of different things, but it only does them ok. __________________ Sigless

11-03-2005, 02:33 PM	#15
BigRod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 3,685	I have had 3 Treo 650s die on me.. I hate them the Blackberry Rocks! __________________ Rod Macdonald Mainstream Ad Agency Owner ICQ: 607306

11-03-2005, 02:37 PM	#17
dooglas So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: A Strip Club Posts: 2,068	I love my blackberry but I don't have much experience with the Treo.

11-03-2005, 02:41 PM	#18
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	damn. I was hoping there was a clear winner between the two. I'll mostly be using it to talk on, check email/stats when I travel which isn't that often. Check out the lines on sports games if possible and maybe make the bets. I've never used a phone for WAP sites before so I will be all new to it.

11-03-2005, 02:42 PM	#19
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	also use it to store appointments and shit like that but I won't use it for that very often.

11-03-2005, 03:37 PM	#20
skoalman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	As someone that handles all the phones in our company, (3000+) the blackberry's are the clear winner. The treo's do what's called a pull for the e-mail and the quickest you can pull is 5 minutes. We have a Blackberry Enterprise Server and over 2500 blackberry's. The users get there e-mail sometimes before it shows up in their outlook on our Exchange 2003 server. The keys are bigger on the blackberry's and they are almost bullet proof. The treo's reset a lot for no reason, dropped and missed calls. There's a class action lawsuit against Palm right now because they know of all the issues with them but aren't doing anything to address them. We tried the i730 phones and they were ok but not stable, they should just put a reboot key on anything with the windows OS on it. If you have a big enough company, get the BES 4 server for your blackberry's or get a hosting company like mailstreet to handle it for you, then EVERYTHING in outlook is synced up and you won't ever need to connect your device to your system to do any syncing.

11-03-2005, 03:40 PM	#21
skoalman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	If you have any questions, let me know. I take care of a few other companies on the side and their Blackberry servers.

11-03-2005, 03:48 PM	#22
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	thanks for that info!

11-03-2005, 03:53 PM	#23
Penthouse_mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 317	I travel a lot so I love my blackberry. The phone works where ever I go, and back in the states I get my email to my bberry sooner than it shows up in Entourage. All the Penthouse Pets seem to love the Treo tho.

11-03-2005, 04:03 PM	#25
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	Totally depends on what use you want. If you want a cool toy, get a blackberry...cant go wrong If you want a serious business tool. Hands down treo. Anyone who tells you differently hasnt used one

11-03-2005, 04:11 PM	#27
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	oh, by the way, my blackberry is a 7250. i have played with a couple other BB models, and they suck. they are alot larger and alot of them don't have bluetooth. so if you're gonna get a blackberry the 7250 is the way to go. i think it ultimately comes down to personal preference though. i wasn't really interested in something with a camera and mp3 player, also i found the treo to be less comfortable to type on and use as a phone. just go down to the store and play with each of them a little bit. i am sure one will stand out over the other. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

11-03-2005, 04:11 PM	#28
Mr. Jim Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,372	I have had the 7100 t and the treo 600 thisis what i have been most satisfied with

11-03-2005, 04:12 PM	#29
skoalman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	Are you with Verizon? We're using the 7250's also. matter of fact the 7250's are supposed to get a new firmware update sometime this month that enables EDVO.

11-03-2005, 04:14 PM	#30
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	i have verizon, what is EDVO? __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

11-03-2005, 04:20 PM	#32
skoalman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	EVDO or Evolution Data Only,Evolution Data Optimized, often abbreviated as EVDO, EV-DO, EvDO, 1xEV-DO or 1xEvDO, is a fast wireless broadband access (3G) without needing a WiFi hotspot (a common misspelling is EDVO). You are the hotspot. You can have fast internet access, anywhere. No need to find a hotspot. For example, get high speed internet access in a car, train, clients, anywhere you can open your laptop. The I730 posted above has it enabled and it works quite well when your in an area with it. Plus if your surfing the net with EDVO, you will get all your calls also. with 1X, if your getting e-mail, your calls goto voicemail. that's another reason I like the blackberry's over the treo because it's instant. If I have a dozen e-mails that the treo is downloading and I get a call, it goes to voicemail, where on my blackberry, it get's the e-mail as soon as it arrives and I've yet to miss a call.

11-03-2005, 04:22 PM	#33
skoalman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	You can also visit http://www.blackberryforums.org/ and see what other people have to say.

11-03-2005, 04:38 PM	#35
skoalman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	Here's another thread that compares the 2 and shows what's better. http://www.blackberryforums.com/show...94&postcount=3

11-03-2005, 04:47 PM	#36
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	Well I can't get it yet or try them out because the provider is just moving into town here. I could drive a little bit and check them out at one of their other stores though. Either of them have newer models coming out soon as in the next 3 months that I should just wait for?

11-03-2005, 07:54 PM	#38
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Treo 650, though I don't have it yet.

11-03-2005, 11:12 PM	#39
reed_4 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 9,640	Those two PDAs are all good but i suggest you go for the Treo. __________________

11-04-2005, 01:09 AM	#41
SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	Treo is better than blackberry. You might want to read http://blog.treonauts.com/