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babz4u · 11-03-2005, 10:18 PM

Liz Ashley wants www.lizashleynude.com taken down right now. You scum bags stole her name and are promoting a solo girl site that will never shoot with her again. Scam your models, scam your affiliates, and scam your customers. Rot in hell. GFY.
Explain yourselves you scamming, scum bag, assholes!

Young · 11-03-2005, 10:20 PM

Rights to pictures....are rights to pictures. Ask her what she signed

haven't seen this happen before

I'm a mainstream model. I am signed to a new york agency. I know if I ever was to get really big all those test shoots that I did back in the day would be sold to the highest bidder.

You sign it away..they can do whatever the fuck they want to do with it.

Chio · 11-03-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u

Liz Ashley wants www.lizashleynude.com taken down right now. You scum bags stole her name and are promoting a solo girl site that will never shoot with her again. Scam your models, scam your affiliates, and scam your customers. Rot in hell. GFY.
Explain yourselves you scamming, scum bag, assholes!

I have no idea what you are talking about so here's a pic of lil' kim with a cock in her mouth.

Chio · 11-03-2005, 10:22 PM

Here's a pic of lil' kim with two! cocks in her mouth.

Chio · 11-03-2005, 10:23 PM

Chio · 11-03-2005, 10:24 PM

babz4u · 11-03-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

Rights to pictures....are rights to pictures. Ask her what she signed

haven't seen this happen before

I'm a mainstream model. I am signed to a new york agency. I know if I ever was to get really big all those test shoots that I did back in the day would be sold to the highest bidder.

You sign it away..they can do whatever the fuck they want to do with it.

These fucking assholes gave her no indication that they were doing a solo girl site with her name.

babz4u · 11-07-2005, 10:39 PM

Still no reply from you scamming mothers. How will you explain no updates to all of your customers and affiliates that are selling that site? Is this what you think people expect?

Rob · 11-07-2005, 10:40 PM

What in the fuck are you talking about?

pocketkangaroo · 11-07-2005, 10:45 PM

I don't see the site mentioning anything about updates, not sure how that is "scamming".

babz4u · 11-07-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

What in the fuck are you talking about?

Some scammers that shot a model who told her that she was going on an amateur site with a bunch of other models. Instead they bought a domain name that was her name and put up a fake solo girl site. They portrayed her nothing like she is or want's to be. They also have no more content for updates. She will never shoot with them again but they are marketing the site as her. Fuck these guys, they are fucking everyone who markets the site as well as all of the customers that sign up. Aren't solo girl sites supposed to retain because of the model?

Rob · 11-07-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u

Some scammers that shot a model who told her that she was going on an amateur site with a bunch of other models. Instead they bought a domain name that was her name and put up a fake solo girl site. They portrayed her nothing like she is or want's to be. They also have no more content for updates. She will never shoot with them again but they are marketing the site as her. Fuck these guys, they are fucking everyone who markets the site as well as all of the customers that sign up. Aren't solo girl sites supposed to retain because of the model?

Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation.

Did she sign the release? If so, they can do whatever they want and portray her in any manner they chose. Even if she doesn't agree with the portrayal. That's life. Chalk it up as experience and move on. That's all I can suggest.

babz4u · 11-07-2005, 10:53 PM

That is not what they said they were doing. This model values her name and was building a solo girl site of her own. That is why they are complete assholes.

3M TA3 · 11-07-2005, 11:04 PM

I had a hard time getting a releases from one girl during a competition, however, it was a part of the agreement to compete. No photographer release no contest, regardless of what she signed for the contest.

Allot of these girls have been abused by other people in the industry. But that's the beautiful part of having good people to go to. It's not so much "what you are signing" it has allot to do with "who you are signing it with".

Good luck to her, the bright side is that her name is getting out. Should be easy to do some conversions.

Young · 11-07-2005, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u

That is not what they said they were doing. This model values her name and was building a solo girl site of her own. That is why they are complete assholes.

Come up with original content. Original as in "nobody else has it" and original as in "nobody else is doing it" and she should have no problem building her own solo site.

Its been done over and over again...one girl...two sites.

Damian_Maxcash · 11-07-2005, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u

That is not what they said they were doing. This model values her name and was building a solo girl site of her own. That is why they are complete assholes.

It does sound fucked up - but Id guess if she signed a realease that the only thing she may be able to do anything about is the use of her name ???

reed_4 · 11-08-2005, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chio

my first time to notice chio's pic in this one.

Jace · 11-08-2005, 12:19 AM

if the model signed a release she signed the rights to those pics away...she basically signed her life away

the only thing she can do now, is trademark that name (as long as she can show prior use), and turn around and have the site shut down for trademark violation

Jace · 11-08-2005, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by reed_4

my first time to notice chio's pic in this one.

haha, me too man

emthree · 11-08-2005, 12:41 AM

So what makes you think the guy who did it has a GFY account?
If you know for a fact that he posts here, what's his nick?

emthree · 11-08-2005, 12:43 AM

Contact:
Synister INC., Synister INC.

Doctor Dre · 11-08-2005, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babz4u

These fucking assholes gave her no indication that they were doing a solo girl site with her name.

Tell her to get a better agent then you

Doctor Dre · 11-08-2005, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babz4u

That is not what they said they were doing. This model values her name and was building a solo girl site of her own. That is why they are complete assholes.

That sucks but she can blame nobody else but herself

LiveDose · 11-08-2005, 12:52 AM

Just here for the drama...

Murderous · 11-08-2005, 01:43 AM

I just signed up to their affiliate program.

BTW - I am sure they will sell it to you for a good price with content design and domain now that you went on GFY and called them scammers and assholes. Give them a call with your offer.

EDIT:
Lots Of Laughs @ Lil' Kim with 2 dicks in her mouth

Sebastian Sands · 11-08-2005, 01:50 AM

She is hot.. I wonder why no one mentioned that.. lol.. I'd hit it.. film it.. and put it on the internet.. is that ok?

Dirty Dane · 11-08-2005, 01:57 AM

its badgirlbucks.... big surprise

emthree · 11-08-2005, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Tell her to get a better agent then you

hahhahah that's fucked up but on point

loxapinedreams · 11-08-2005, 02:14 AM

I guess he is the anger boyfriend? the jilted engaged boyfriend? or the stupid asshole husband? the lazy fat ass model agent?
which are you?

AdPatron · 11-08-2005, 02:18 AM

I just farted.

High Quality · 11-08-2005, 02:20 AM

Wow, real drama

babz4u · 11-08-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by loxapinedreams

I guess he is the anger boyfriend? the jilted engaged boyfriend? or the stupid asshole husband? the lazy fat ass model agent?
which are you?

Non of the above, just a friend and photographer who works with Liz occasionally. I believe business should be conducted honestly with people. Honestly with both models and customers. There is no need to mislead people, there are plenty of models that are ok with a solo girl site and customers wanting a solo girl site expect it to be endorsed by the model.

GweedZilla · 11-08-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by babz4u

Non of the above, just a friend and photographer who works with Liz occasionally. I believe business should be conducted honestly with people. Honestly with both models and customers. There is no need to mislead people, there are plenty of models that are ok with a solo girl site and customers wanting a solo girl site expect it to be endorsed by the model.

Yeah and all the dirty librarians in Playboy REALLY are dirty librarians.

Just because yer friend apparently got hustled does not give you the right to come broadly attacking gfy and its members about it. If you have proof of wrong doing by the particular site owner then bring it out.

MaDalton · 11-08-2005, 09:15 AM

how could they do that? BadGirlBucks is a reputable company that never caused any drama before...

but besides that: did she sign a release that says they can do whatever they want? if so: end of story

TheLegacy · 11-08-2005, 09:17 AM

verbal agreements mean nothing - she should have insisted a lawyer look at the release and made comments that her name cannot be used. Failing to do so - shes at a loss. as was mentioned, its who you work with. If you have serious problems then I would suggest taking it to the courts. I can offer you some great legal services that deal specifically with adult content if you want, but outside of that, what do you expect is going to be done? Take the site down? Not going to happen.

Clients of the site dont care they got their pictures, and the owners have their money. Best to create a site since someone has done the leg work for you in advertising and build saying its the Official site. I still dont see how this affects GFY

Screaming · 11-08-2005, 09:20 AM

Is this simon sinister?

Mutt · 11-08-2005, 09:30 AM

is anybody surprised? it's BadGirlBucks - it may be legal what they did with Liz Ashley but its unethical. Another one of their models contacted me not long ago - the girl who is Mandy Michaels - the sum total she received for that site according to her - $800.

zero ethics - just because you can take advantage of somebody doesn't mean you should.

CherryLipsRosa · 11-08-2005, 09:33 AM

sometimes it is unfair but that is how you learn life's lessons... (the hard way)

nofx · 11-08-2005, 09:45 AM

is this the same shit we talked on icq about?

sucks for the model but i'm not really sure what can be done..

ejeet · 11-08-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by babz4u

They also have no more content for updates. She will never shoot with them again but they are marketing the site as her.

That's BadGirlBuck's business model and that's why an affiliate well never see any rebills

CybermedAndy · 11-08-2005, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by emthree

Contact:
Synister INC., Synister INC.

That explains it right there

ejeet · 11-08-2005, 09:57 AM

Congrats to the winners

Mutt · 11-08-2005, 10:01 AM

[QUOTE=Young]Rights to pictures....are rights to pictures. Ask her what she signed

QUOTE]

you're right - right to pictures are rights to pictures - rights to a professional stage or real name of a working model - very different. she should be consulting an attorney.

TheLegacy · 11-08-2005, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

is anybody surprised? it's BadGirlBucks - it may be legal what they did with Liz Ashley but its unethical. Another one of their models contacted me not long ago - the girl who is Mandy Michaels - the sum total she received for that site according to her - $800.

zero ethics - just because you can take advantage of somebody doesn't mean you should.

exactly.. and thats why few work with them to begin with. dont know why this guy thinks that gfy is at fault, but if its any consulation, the majority of webmasters dont really use badgirlbucks when there are better more ethical companies to work with

babz4u · 11-08-2005, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

is anybody surprised? it's BadGirlBucks - it may be legal what they did with Liz Ashley but its unethical. Another one of their models contacted me not long ago - the girl who is Mandy Michaels - the sum total she received for that site according to her - $800.

zero ethics - just because you can take advantage of somebody doesn't mean you should.

EXACTLY, I am not slamming GFY, I am trying to let GFY members know that this kind of thing is just wrong and not good for our industry. I would also love to hear from these assholes as to why they think this is a good business model and how they justify their actions.

edgeprod · 11-08-2005, 05:52 PM

Want a tissue?

babz4u · 11-08-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx

is this the same shit we talked on icq about?

sucks for the model but i'm not really sure what can be done..

yes, it is the same thing we talked about! and yes it does suck! I hear shit all of the time from the models I shoot with but this is absolutely the lowest.

pornguy · 11-08-2005, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u

That is not what they said they were doing. This model values her name and was building a solo girl site of her own. That is why they are complete assholes.

The best that you can do is hire an attorney, and pray that there is a hole in the contract.

Good luck

But bitching here will do nothing.

edgeprod · 11-09-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

But bitching here will do nothing.

Well, if it's good with you, it's good with me. I get to laugh at the guy.

babz4u · 11-10-2005, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Well, if it's good with you, it's good with me. I get to laugh at the guy.

Fuck you, these guys were quick to tell me that they were selling her in another post but won't explain why they are selling a solo girl site the way they are. If you are selling that program wouldn't you want to know there will be no updates? This is a public service communication.

11-03-2005, 10:18 PM	#1
babz4u Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: where you are Posts: 358	Calling you out you motherfuckers. Liz Ashley wants www.lizashleynude.com taken down right now. You scum bags stole her name and are promoting a solo girl site that will never shoot with her again. Scam your models, scam your affiliates, and scam your customers. Rot in hell. GFY. Explain yourselves you scamming, scum bag, assholes!

11-03-2005, 10:20 PM	#2
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	Rights to pictures....are rights to pictures. Ask her what she signed haven't seen this happen before I'm a mainstream model. I am signed to a new york agency. I know if I ever was to get really big all those test shoots that I did back in the day would be sold to the highest bidder. You sign it away..they can do whatever the fuck they want to do with it. __________________ ★★★

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babz4u Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: where you are Posts: 358	Still no reply from you scamming mothers. How will you explain no updates to all of your customers and affiliates that are selling that site? Is this what you think people expect?

11-07-2005, 10:40 PM	#9
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11-07-2005, 10:45 PM	#10
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babz4u Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: where you are Posts: 358	That is not what they said they were doing. This model values her name and was building a solo girl site of her own. That is why they are complete assholes.

11-07-2005, 11:04 PM	#14
3M TA3 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 2,972	I had a hard time getting a releases from one girl during a competition, however, it was a part of the agreement to compete. No photographer release no contest, regardless of what she signed for the contest. Allot of these girls have been abused by other people in the industry. But that's the beautiful part of having good people to go to. It's not so much "what you are signing" it has allot to do with "who you are signing it with". Good luck to her, the bright side is that her name is getting out. Should be easy to do some conversions. __________________ Dedicated and colo hosting: ICQ 291313057 "A problem cannot be solved from the same consciousness that created it. We must learn to see the world anew." - Albert Einstein

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Murderous Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,938	I just signed up to their affiliate program. BTW - I am sure they will sell it to you for a good price with content design and domain now that you went on GFY and called them scammers and assholes. Give them a call with your offer. EDIT: Lots Of Laughs @ Lil' Kim with 2 dicks in her mouth

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11-08-2005, 09:17 AM	#35
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 17,079	verbal agreements mean nothing - she should have insisted a lawyer look at the release and made comments that her name cannot be used. Failing to do so - shes at a loss. as was mentioned, its who you work with. If you have serious problems then I would suggest taking it to the courts. I can offer you some great legal services that deal specifically with adult content if you want, but outside of that, what do you expect is going to be done? Take the site down? Not going to happen. Clients of the site dont care they got their pictures, and the owners have their money. Best to create a site since someone has done the leg work for you in advertising and build saying its the Official site. I still dont see how this affects GFY __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

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11-08-2005, 09:30 AM	#37
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	is anybody surprised? it's BadGirlBucks - it may be legal what they did with Liz Ashley but its unethical. Another one of their models contacted me not long ago - the girl who is Mandy Michaels - the sum total she received for that site according to her - $800. zero ethics - just because you can take advantage of somebody doesn't mean you should. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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11-08-2005, 10:01 AM	#43
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	[QUOTE=Young]Rights to pictures....are rights to pictures. Ask her what she signed QUOTE] you're right - right to pictures are rights to pictures - rights to a professional stage or real name of a working model - very different. she should be consulting an attorney. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-08-2005, 05:52 PM	#46
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Want a tissue?