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tony286 · 10-31-2005, 12:04 PM

Today was the day.

selena · 10-31-2005, 12:05 PM

I wondered that earlier. Hopefully someone in the know will be able to update us soon.

Redrob · 10-31-2005, 12:55 PM

As soon as I hear something, I'll post to GFY.

MrPinks · 10-31-2005, 01:15 PM

Negrodamus says another delay

DWB · 10-31-2005, 01:17 PM

Call me crazy but I wil bet nothing will happen with 2257 any time soon.

MrPinks · 10-31-2005, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Call me crazy but I wil bet nothing will happen with 2257 any time soon.

I'll have to agree with you crazy

nicchick · 10-31-2005, 01:35 PM

Wondering that too. Judge Miller said that the ruling on the injuction would be "sooner rather than later" but that was months ago.

Toolz · 10-31-2005, 01:51 PM

On October 7th a motion was granted for an extension to November 21st 2005

pornpf69 · 10-31-2005, 01:58 PM

what about it? I dont get?

Elli · 10-31-2005, 02:07 PM

Sites are already getting raided. A Washington State BDSM site was shut down last week. I asked the webmaster to post here to tell us about it, but I guess she hasn't yet.

nicchick · 10-31-2005, 04:02 PM

They are supposed to rule on an injuction that was filed by the Free Speech Coalition

Linkster · 10-31-2005, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli

Sites are already getting raided. A Washington State BDSM site was shut down last week. I asked the webmaster to post here to tell us about it, but I guess she hasn't yet.

I dont believe that had anything to do with 2257

After Shock Media · 10-31-2005, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toolz

On October 7th a motion was granted for an extension to November 21st 2005

Where did you get this info?

And please do not say a FSC newsletter or I will rip my hair out cause I am a member and have never recieved a single one.

10-31-2005, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli

Sites are already getting raided. A Washington State BDSM site was shut down last week. I asked the webmaster to post here to tell us about it, but I guess she hasn't yet.

Was she a member of the FSC?

Linkster · 10-31-2005, 04:13 PM

Also I believe (at least the way it was reported) the sites that were shutdown were voluntary by their WM's - out of fear

Linkster · 10-31-2005, 04:15 PM

Sherm - it wasnt 2257 related - it was some WMs that got scared that the obscenity task force was going after BDSM sites and they voluntarily shut down themselves - at least according to their media release

Redrob · 10-31-2005, 04:19 PM

If you are a member of FSC and not receiving the weekly emailed newsletter, The Xpress, please email Neva at the FSC offices.

[email protected]

sunshynevideo · 10-31-2005, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Where did you get this info?

And please do not say a FSC newsletter or I will rip my hair out cause I am a member and have never recieved a single one.

Hmmm I get a newsletter each week.

Each newsletter I get has this at the bottom

Subscriptions to Free Speech X-Press are FREE to FSC members. Contact us at [email protected] or 800-476-7813

seeric · 10-31-2005, 04:21 PM

my dj website was raided becasue i caught these two hotties in the bathroom backstage together and they couldn't prove that they didn't mack each others fun place.

i may go to jail for failure to prove sex happened.

Elli · 10-31-2005, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shermsshack

Was she a member of the FSC?

No, she had no idea what 2257 was all about or what has been going on. She's more a bdsm'er who just happens to have a site than a webmaster.

Michaelious · 10-31-2005, 04:27 PM

Nice to see the us goverment are still screwing up

tony286 · 10-31-2005, 04:35 PM

bump for any news

Tat2Jr · 10-31-2005, 05:07 PM

bumpidy bump!

Tat2Jr · 10-31-2005, 07:08 PM

Bump????

DamageX · 10-31-2005, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr

Bump????

JasonB · 10-31-2005, 07:38 PM

Extended again.
http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=245133

Redrob · 10-31-2005, 09:31 PM

Got this in from FSC.

Denver, Co. ? A motion was filed in the U.S. District Court of Colorado this afternoon that extends for one month the original stipulated agreement between the parties for a temporary restraining order (TRO) in Free Speech Coalition et al v. Alberto Gonzales.

The extension will terminate November 30, 2005, or until the Court rules on Plaintiffs? motion for preliminary injunction, whichever occurs first. During that time period, the Justice Department is restrained from inspecting or enforcing U.S.C. 18 § 2257 against plaintiffs in the case, which includes all members of the Free Speech Coalition.

Terms of the original stipulation are once more maintained intact, and it is still the expectation of the attorneys for the Free Speech Coalition that a decision by U.S District Court Judge Walker D. Miller on the Plaintiff?s motion for a preliminary injunction will be rendered soon.

?We understand that the adult entertainment community is as eager as we are to have a ruling on our motion for a preliminary injunction,? said FSC Executive Director Michelle L. Freridge, ?but sometimes the wheels of justice revolve very slowly, and we simply must be patient. But make no mistake, we are as confident as ever that our arguments challenging these abusive regulations will win out at the end of the day. We appreciate your patience, and look forward to ultimate victory in this significant battle to protect your free speech rights.?

llporter · 10-31-2005, 09:55 PM

thanks redrob

adultchica · 10-31-2005, 10:03 PM

I heard a rumor on another board that the DOJ seemed to be giving in on some of the 2257 stuff that they had written in (like what is considered explicit). Is there any truth to that?

Redrob · 10-31-2005, 10:20 PM

I haven't heard anything to that effect. I'm sure the attorneys for both sides would keep an agreement like that under wraps until all the details were finalized. Only afterwards, would they make a formal announcement.

Mr.Fiction · 11-01-2005, 12:18 AM

The government probably wants to keep delaying the case until they get another right winger on the Supreme Court so they can be assured of a win on appeal.

nicchick · 11-01-2005, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

The government probably wants to keep delaying the case until they get another right winger on the Supreme Court so they can be assured of a win on appeal.

I suspect you are exactly right.

Marshal · 11-01-2005, 08:20 AM

i'm also interested...
so a little bump for you... ;)

gornyhuy · 11-01-2005, 08:25 AM

I'm so fucking paranoid about this shit that i'm not doing any image or movie content until it is resolved. I know its an overreaction, but i'm not taking any chances.

mikesouth · 11-01-2005, 08:34 AM

Told ya they'd extend it again ;) Feds move S L O W

MrPinks · 11-01-2005, 10:21 AM

Just read this on Yahoo
2257 hits mainstream entertainment

But guess what, Pence is willing to bend for them, not us

I also did not know that this is eventually going to the Senate. Is it?

Bugbee · 11-01-2005, 10:25 AM

another 30 day stay!

ModelPerfect · 11-01-2005, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPinks

Just read this on Yahoo
2257 hits mainstream entertainment

But guess what, Pence is willing to bend for them, not us

I also did not know that this is eventually going to the Senate. Is it?

"Including the legitimate industry in the reporting requirement risks having the entire statute fail because it would expand the reach of the law beyond child protection."

I'm a little offended by this word.

MrPinks · 11-01-2005, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

"Including the legitimate industry in the reporting requirement risks having the entire statute fail because it would expand the reach of the law beyond child protection."

I'm a little offended by this word.

I overlooked that. That is pretty fucked up.

Nikki_Licks · 11-01-2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

If you are a member of FSC and not receiving the weekly emailed newsletter, The Xpress, please email Neva at the FSC offices.

[email protected]

We are members and have not recieved anything at all execpt thank you for joining. This was a couple of months ago.

Nikki_Licks · 11-01-2005, 11:48 AM

Hey Redrob, when all is said and done with 2257...what is going to be done with the membership list that is the hands of some court appointed clerk.
Will it be turned over to the government so they can start with the names on the list?
I am just curious as to how this will be handled and just how secure the list will be once the new regulations are in place.
No one has been able to answer this as of yet

Redrob · 11-01-2005, 12:00 PM

I have inquired on your behalf and post a reply when I receive it concerning the "List".

Hymes · 11-01-2005, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Hey Redrob, when all is said and done with 2257...what is going to be done with the membership list that is the hands of some court appointed clerk.
Will it be turned over to the government so they can start with the names on the list?
I am just curious as to how this will be handled and just how secure the list will be once the new regulations are in place.
No one has been able to answer this as of yet

Nikki,

It is not a clerk, but a retired judge, who is keeping the master list under the terms of the stipulated agreement with the Feds. When that agreement is up, the list will be returned to us, but it will never be handed over to the government. Now, the actual ruling by the court on the motion for a preliminary injunction, which we are waiting for right now, will determine the reach of 2257, and what the government can do with respect to it while both sides prepare for the full trial. But please be assured that the list of FSC members will never be given to anyone for any reason other than one similar to this situation, where the full force of the law guarantees its secrecy.

Tom

Redrob · 11-01-2005, 02:19 PM

Tom,
Thank you

Elli · 11-01-2005, 02:40 PM

So far so good, I guess. It's good that they're not dismissing it out of hand.

Nikki_Licks · 11-02-2005, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymes

Nikki,

It is not a clerk, but a retired judge, who is keeping the master list under the terms of the stipulated agreement with the Feds. When that agreement is up, the list will be returned to us, but it will never be handed over to the government. Now, the actual ruling by the court on the motion for a preliminary injunction, which we are waiting for right now, will determine the reach of 2257, and what the government can do with respect to it while both sides prepare for the full trial. But please be assured that the list of FSC members will never be given to anyone for any reason other than one similar to this situation, where the full force of the law guarantees its secrecy.

Tom

Thanks for clarifying a few things for me. Its great to see the FSC is on top of things and looking out for rights.

Nikki_Licks · 11-02-2005, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

I have inquired on your behalf and post a reply when I receive it concerning the "List".

Redrob, thanks for getting Tom to answer my question. It puts me at ease knowing we wont just be put on the chopping block by the government because we are part of an organization that stands up for the rights and freedoms of the people.

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	2257 Agreement Extended Again - For One Month Got this in from FSC. Denver, Co. ? A motion was filed in the U.S. District Court of Colorado this afternoon that extends for one month the original stipulated agreement between the parties for a temporary restraining order (TRO) in Free Speech Coalition et al v. Alberto Gonzales. The extension will terminate November 30, 2005, or until the Court rules on Plaintiffs? motion for preliminary injunction, whichever occurs first. During that time period, the Justice Department is restrained from inspecting or enforcing U.S.C. 18 § 2257 against plaintiffs in the case, which includes all members of the Free Speech Coalition. Terms of the original stipulation are once more maintained intact, and it is still the expectation of the attorneys for the Free Speech Coalition that a decision by U.S District Court Judge Walker D. Miller on the Plaintiff?s motion for a preliminary injunction will be rendered soon. ?We understand that the adult entertainment community is as eager as we are to have a ruling on our motion for a preliminary injunction,? said FSC Executive Director Michelle L. Freridge, ?but sometimes the wheels of justice revolve very slowly, and we simply must be patient. But make no mistake, we are as confident as ever that our arguments challenging these abusive regulations will win out at the end of the day. We appreciate your patience, and look forward to ultimate victory in this significant battle to protect your free speech rights.?

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	I haven't heard anything to that effect. I'm sure the attorneys for both sides would keep an agreement like that under wraps until all the details were finalized. Only afterwards, would they make a formal announcement.

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Nikki_Licks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 6,323	Hey Redrob, when all is said and done with 2257...what is going to be done with the membership list that is the hands of some court appointed clerk. Will it be turned over to the government so they can start with the names on the list? I am just curious as to how this will be handled and just how secure the list will be once the new regulations are in place. No one has been able to answer this as of yet __________________ Amateur Content ICQ: 292 356 077 Last edited by Nikki_Licks; 11-01-2005 at 11:49 AM..

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