Damn TGP Bullshit - GoFuckYourself.com

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 09:03 AM

I fired my last TGP guy - too many reasons to list.
Since Im an involved webmaster I figured I would take a shot a doing them myself. What the hell, add it to the list of headaches I already deal with, right ?

So I build some templates and get submitting....
One template has recips for TheHun and WorldSex on the same page. I submit it to WorldSex with no problem. I then submit it to TheHun and I get a message that says

"...Please remove all links to worldsex and cindysex from your page before you submit to the Yellow Pages. I don't mind competition, but this guy owes me money. In 1999 they
advertised on the Yellow Pages for a month. After the advertising-period was over they decided to charge back all money. When I called him about it to ask what was up he
started threatening me. He grew up in Amsterdam and 'knew some friends that could help him'... I will not send traffic to a gallery with a link to a guy like this, sorry... "

Now I agree with most everything thehun does but this sucks balls. I cant remove any link because WorldSex will drop the submission and Im guessing WorldSex wont accept any galleries from thehun either but I cant be sure. Now I have to sit on this gallery and see if it does anything with WorldSex. What a waste of my time.

Nobody wins when you mix personal problems with busines. I was talking to worldsex about advertising but thats not going to happen now because it appears he isnt paying his bills. Im also going to think twice about TheHun submissions because I dont like wasting my time on this bullshit. You would think using one recip per page would solve the problem but some TGPs want to see other TGP recips so they know they are getting cross traffic.

I cant keep up with the fucking politics of it all. I have over 10,000 photos ready for submission and at this point Im looking for newbie TGPs or maybe I will start my own. The shit is nuts guys, if you want to do this stuff keep a running list of your politics next to your rules page or something.

God damn, wheres the fucking Tylenol

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepy
Accident quote

Ludedude · 03-10-2002, 10:14 AM

Worldsex no longer belongs to the original owner. It was sold last year, so maybe The Hun has to review his policy?

Theo · 03-10-2002, 10:21 AM

change the gallery
if you are not listed you don't have problem

Brian911 · 03-10-2002, 10:24 AM

hahahar tgp webmasters and their egos..
they have better designs than some paysites, offer 100's of galleries in their "archives" and wonder why they dont make money

... this doesnt really mean the hun, but people like gotys ;)

just submit to hun without any recip or perhaps, if you like to lose sign-ups, with a small backlink on the bottom.

on a side note.. maybe you dont want to "waste" those pics on tgps but actually make money with it?
freesites, avs, turnkeysites, paysites from scratch.. endless possibilities.

ldinternet · 03-10-2002, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brian911
they have better designs than some paysites, offer 100's of galleries in their "archives" and wonder why they dont make money
... this doesnt really mean the hun, but people like gotys ;)

i don't know...
gotys is my 16th biggest referrer and sends a fair amount of decent traffic. i've made good numbers off of it anyway.

Brian911 · 03-10-2002, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet

i don't know...
gotys is my 16th biggest referrer and sends a fair amount of decent traffic. i've made good numbers off of it anyway.

well, perhaps he sends out all those "conerting surfers" then

I dont really care about it, just pisses me off if somebody continues to complain about a situation he is responsible for.

LoveAsianChicks · 03-10-2002, 10:35 AM

Simple solution... Forget about that gallery being listed on the hun.

Next time you make a gallery for the hun use another recip instead. It is not really an issue.
Don't remove the worldsex recip to make the hun happy on that gallery. Just re-submit the gallery without worldsex recip.

Try:
easypic
freepicspage
al4a
hun

A listing on those 4 sites would give you some traffic :P

TFCash · 03-10-2002, 10:35 AM

Why not just copy that page to a new name, remove the offending link and resubmit to the Hun ???

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hardcorehosting
Why not just copy that page to a new name, remove the offending link and resubmit to the Hun ???

Why not just find another site where it doesnt matter ? Ya know what I mean ? I dont want to keep a log of who is friends with who. Its easier to just not submit there...

BTW, I talked to Pierre at WorldSex and he was a real nice guy.
TheHun has always been good too but his enemies are not mine.

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brian911
on a side note.. maybe you dont want to "waste" those pics on tgps but actually make money with it?
freesites, avs, turnkeysites, paysites from scratch.. endless possibilities.

I do all that except the AVS sites - which I would do if I could find the right person to run them. its hard finding someone who isnt a crook that you can count on.

ez12 · 03-10-2002, 11:20 AM

so Sleepy you're lookin for a guy to do your tgp stuff I might know someone could you mail me with the things this guy should do than I'll ask around

[email protected]

Westin · 03-10-2002, 11:20 AM

hun has traffic.

you want the traffic.

play by the rules and quit your bitchin'

LoveAsianChicks · 03-10-2002, 11:55 AM

Just remember the hun does not want a worldsex recip. Its a non-issue. I wonder why the orginal owner of worldsex would need to stiff the hun?

He had 800,000K hits for the longest time, now its over 1M. With that much traffic you would be rich.
It doesn't make sense.

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ez12
so Sleepy you're lookin for a guy to do your tgp stuff I might know someone could you mail me with the things this guy should do than I'll ask around

[email protected]

I have new tgp guy starting monday...
If you know an AVS guy looking for work let me know. I will consume the bandwidth and provide legal content for a split of the net.

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks
Just remember the hun does not want a worldsex recip. Its a non-issue. I wonder why the orginal owner of worldsex would need to stiff the hun?

He had 800,000K hits for the longest time, now its over 1M. With that much traffic you would be rich.
It doesn't make sense.

Now that WorldSex said they will accept my gallery even though thehuns banner is on it too - its a non-issue. According to WorldSex thehun doesnt believe they are a new owner of the site. I will just not put any recips on Hun gallerys anymore.. kinda fucking stupid though.

Thumbs up to WorldSex for being professional

SleazyDream · 03-10-2002, 01:44 PM

What's really fucking sad is idiots like sleepy who don't realize that the SAME advertising agency ( cybercat.com ) handles the ads for both the hun and worldsex. If you were really interested in buying ads on either thehun or worldsex you would have known that and not pretended that you were going to be buying ads in some vain attempt to make yourself look like a real player.

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 06:54 PM

From: "Parney Galione" <[email protected]>

To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Advertise on Worldsex
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:52:50 -0500

Hi Terry,

Thank you for your inquiry

Here is the banner and the text link advertising information.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

thanks!

Parney G

Re: Advertising on Worldsex

Go to:
http://ranks.sextracker.com/spn.html...re&pg=0-0.html
to check stats on Worldsex traffic

We are currently booking banner insertions for April 2002.

$900.00 buys you a horizontal banner in rotation on the Current Month Page.
This will expose you to a minimum of 25% of the Worldsex traffic which over
the month
should get all of his traffic allowing for users coming back every 3 days as
per the net average.
We also have the ever popular Vertical Banner Spot. A higher traffic
generator
because of its location and visibility.

You host your own banner.

The advantage of keeping it on your server is that you can change
the banner as often as you like (as long as you keep the name of
the banner the same.) Previous users coming in during the month will
not see the old banner. It will look new and fresh and receive more
activity.

You can also increase your exposure rate by purchasing additional
banner space. Or you can purchase a text link or links on
Worldsex, which should give you between 50,000 and 80,000 click thru's in a
couple of days

To target Webmasters, Banner advertising is also available
on The Worldsex Webmaster/ Submit page.

ALSO MORE GREAT NEWS
A package deal is now available when purchasing banner spots with exposure
on
www.absolut-series.com contact us for more details

Worldsex will not accept advertising from sites that promote potentially
kiddie porn or advertise other sites that are considered potentially kiddie
porn sites.

These sites will be judged solely by ourselves and any picture or wording
that insinuates that the site contains underage models will no longer be
considered for posting or advertising on Worldsex.

We can also offer you additional exposure on other sites that we
Handle. http://www.cybercatinc.com

Please email me back if you have any further questions or want to
purchase any of this limited space.

Thank You
Parney Galione
CyberCat Productions. Inc.
http://www.cybercatinc.com

Text Link Advertising on WorldSex

http://www.worldsex.com

check stats at:
http://ranks.sextracker.com/spn.html...re&pg=0-0.html

The top link is the only link that can be sold on an individual basis.

The way it works is that you would be the top text link on a given day ( you
can select the day ) and you remain at the top of that days page for 5 days
on the main page.

The most frequently you can be posted in any placement is every 3rd day.

With multiple text link purchases, we also sell the 2 to 5 spots in all 3
columns
and the 6 to 15 spots in the left hand column only.

Here is the break down.

LEFT HAND COLUMN:

A top text link in the left hand column sells for $400.00

3 text links for $1000.00 ( in the 2 to 5 spot )

10 text links for $2000.00. ( in the 2 to 5 spot )

10 text links for $1500.00. ( in the 6 to 15 spot )

CENTER COLUMN:

A top text link in the center column sells for $300.00

3 text links for $800.00 ( in the 2 to 5 spot )

10 text links for $1500.00. ( in the 2 to 5 spot )

RIGHT HAND COLUMN

A top text link in the right hand column sell for $300.00

3 text links for $500.00 ( in the 2 to 5 spot )

10 text links for $1000.00. ( in the 2 to 5 spot )

If you purchase a top link in conjunction with a banner spot then you will
receive a $100.00 discount on the text link.

TEXT LINK REQUIRMENTS:

To read about the requirements, rules and regulations for a text link on
Worldsex please go to:
http://www.worldsex.com/submit.htm

When getting into multiple text links bear in mind that we need a new URL
each time so that it doesn't show up as previously "clicked on" on peoples
browsers and we need a new gallery each time.

Text link advertising can start anytime.

If you are interested in placing a static text link, within the Blue Box at
the top of the page where it reads: "WorldSex recommends these Outstanding
Pay-Sites"
The cost is $1500.00 a month. The link can lead directly to your site.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Parney Galione
CyberCat Productions, Inc.
http://www.cybercatinc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sleepy Teens [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Advertise on Worldsex

Please send me available options for banner advertising on your site.
Thanks
Terry

Sleepy · 03-10-2002, 06:58 PM

SleazyDream, I like you and I like your site.
Please feel free to e-mail them incase you still think Im a liar.
An apology is cool with me.

SleazyDream · 03-10-2002, 10:41 PM

I'll offer you a full and public apology as soon as you buy some ads from cybercat on any of the sites they promote (including mine), till then as far as I'm concerned it looks like you're just blowing smoke. Please prove me wrong.

I know I know, I dont' have anywhere near the same amount of class and restraint thehun has - but i gots to be me.
he has a pic of a hun that looks like a viking running around yet he acts like a real professional business man. My ancestors ARE Vikings and even though I don't look like em I act like them.

if you knew the background of the hun and worldsex and the owners (past and present) you'd know what the hun's auto response was about. They both live in the same country and know each other and there isn't any bad blood there with the current owners.

Sleepy · 03-11-2002, 06:45 AM

Do you know what an "Easy Out" is ? Thats when you shove your own head up your ass and someone gives you the chance to pull it out gracefully.

You could have just said you misread my post or you misunderstood it and then looked like a man. I mean thats what you want, right ? You want to be a man like the TheHun.

I respect TheHun, but I have no respect for you.

SR · 03-11-2002, 07:44 AM

Don't argue with Sleazydream

He's the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite.

Sly_RJ · 03-11-2002, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hardcorehosting
Why not just copy that page to a new name, remove the offending link and resubmit to the Hun ???

No fucking shit. You guys are kings at duping and you couldn't figure this out?

Sleepy · 03-11-2002, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

No fucking shit. You guys are kings at duping and you couldn't figure this out?

PREVIOUSLY POSTED:

"..Why not just find another site where it doesnt matter ? Ya know what I mean ? I dont want to keep a log of who is friends with who. Its easier to just not submit there... "

Steve · 03-11-2002, 12:22 PM

Why do people get their panties in a bunch of TGP submit rules?
Now you are pissing with SD. Think about it. If you really annoy him, he might contact his friends, and ask that they find a way to decline your gallery submissions. That would suck, wouldn't it?

I think you should hire another guy to handle your TGP submits asap. If you were familiar with the TGP business, this thread would never have started.

03-10-2002, 09:03 AM	#1
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	Damn TGP Bullshit I fired my last TGP guy - too many reasons to list. Since Im an involved webmaster I figured I would take a shot a doing them myself. What the hell, add it to the list of headaches I already deal with, right ? So I build some templates and get submitting.... One template has recips for TheHun and WorldSex on the same page. I submit it to WorldSex with no problem. I then submit it to TheHun and I get a message that says "...Please remove all links to worldsex and cindysex from your page before you submit to the Yellow Pages. I don't mind competition, but this guy owes me money. In 1999 they advertised on the Yellow Pages for a month. After the advertising-period was over they decided to charge back all money. When I called him about it to ask what was up he started threatening me. He grew up in Amsterdam and 'knew some friends that could help him'... I will not send traffic to a gallery with a link to a guy like this, sorry... " Now I agree with most everything thehun does but this sucks balls. I cant remove any link because WorldSex will drop the submission and Im guessing WorldSex wont accept any galleries from thehun either but I cant be sure. Now I have to sit on this gallery and see if it does anything with WorldSex. What a waste of my time. Nobody wins when you mix personal problems with busines. I was talking to worldsex about advertising but thats not going to happen now because it appears he isnt paying his bills. Im also going to think twice about TheHun submissions because I dont like wasting my time on this bullshit. You would think using one recip per page would solve the problem but some TGPs want to see other TGP recips so they know they are getting cross traffic. I cant keep up with the fucking politics of it all. I have over 10,000 photos ready for submission and at this point Im looking for newbie TGPs or maybe I will start my own. The shit is nuts guys, if you want to do this stuff keep a running list of your politics next to your rules page or something. God damn, wheres the fucking Tylenol Last edited by Sleepy; 03-10-2002 at 09:05 AM..

03-10-2002, 10:14 AM	#3
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Worldsex no longer belongs to the original owner. It was sold last year, so maybe The Hun has to review his policy? __________________

03-10-2002, 10:24 AM	#5
Brian911 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 654	hahahar tgp webmasters and their egos.. they have better designs than some paysites, offer 100's of galleries in their "archives" and wonder why they dont make money ... this doesnt really mean the hun, but people like gotys ;) just submit to hun without any recip or perhaps, if you like to lose sign-ups, with a small backlink on the bottom. on a side note.. maybe you dont want to "waste" those pics on tgps but actually make money with it? freesites, avs, turnkeysites, paysites from scratch.. endless possibilities. __________________ - Brian [ a directive occured while processing this error ]

03-10-2002, 11:20 AM	#12
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	so Sleepy you're lookin for a guy to do your tgp stuff I might know someone could you mail me with the things this guy should do than I'll ask around [email protected] __________________ Main sites: Duclerck.com & Diderote.com My Hosting: AmeriNOC My Sponsors: NewNudeCash, Silvercash, Sapphic Cash, BCash4you Email: webmaster @ duclerck.com

03-10-2002, 11:20 AM	#13
Westin Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 393	hun has traffic. you want the traffic. play by the rules and quit your bitchin' __________________ <a href="http://www.xamo.com/"><img border="0" src="http://www.fuck-or-suck.com/freepics/xamo.gif"><BR>XAMO.com Content - Images, CD's, Video, Games, Cartoon plugins, and Custom Shoots!!

03-10-2002, 10:21 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	change the gallery if you are not listed you don't have problem

03-10-2002, 10:35 AM	#8
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Simple solution... Forget about that gallery being listed on the hun. Next time you make a gallery for the hun use another recip instead. It is not really an issue. Don't remove the worldsex recip to make the hun happy on that gallery. Just re-submit the gallery without worldsex recip. Try: easypic freepicspage al4a hun A listing on those 4 sites would give you some traffic :P

03-10-2002, 10:35 AM	#9
TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	Why not just copy that page to a new name, remove the offending link and resubmit to the Hun ???

03-10-2002, 11:55 AM	#14
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Just remember the hun does not want a worldsex recip. Its a non-issue. I wonder why the orginal owner of worldsex would need to stiff the hun? He had 800,000K hits for the longest time, now its over 1M. With that much traffic you would be rich. It doesn't make sense.

03-10-2002, 01:44 PM	#17
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	What's really fucking sad is idiots like sleepy who don't realize that the SAME advertising agency ( cybercat.com ) handles the ads for both the hun and worldsex. If you were really interested in buying ads on either thehun or worldsex you would have known that and not pretended that you were going to be buying ads in some vain attempt to make yourself look like a real player. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

03-10-2002, 06:54 PM	#18
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	From: "Parney Galione" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Advertise on Worldsex Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:52:50 -0500 Hi Terry, Thank you for your inquiry Here is the banner and the text link advertising information. Please let me know if you have any questions. thanks! Parney G Re: Advertising on Worldsex Go to: http://ranks.sextracker.com/spn.html...re&pg=0-0.html to check stats on Worldsex traffic We are currently booking banner insertions for April 2002. $900.00 buys you a horizontal banner in rotation on the Current Month Page. This will expose you to a minimum of 25% of the Worldsex traffic which over the month should get all of his traffic allowing for users coming back every 3 days as per the net average. We also have the ever popular Vertical Banner Spot. A higher traffic generator because of its location and visibility. You host your own banner. The advantage of keeping it on your server is that you can change the banner as often as you like (as long as you keep the name of the banner the same.) Previous users coming in during the month will not see the old banner. It will look new and fresh and receive more activity. You can also increase your exposure rate by purchasing additional banner space. Or you can purchase a text link or links on Worldsex, which should give you between 50,000 and 80,000 click thru's in a couple of days To target Webmasters, Banner advertising is also available on The Worldsex Webmaster/ Submit page. ALSO MORE GREAT NEWS A package deal is now available when purchasing banner spots with exposure on www.absolut-series.com contact us for more details Worldsex will not accept advertising from sites that promote potentially kiddie porn or advertise other sites that are considered potentially kiddie porn sites. These sites will be judged solely by ourselves and any picture or wording that insinuates that the site contains underage models will no longer be considered for posting or advertising on Worldsex. We can also offer you additional exposure on other sites that we Handle. http://www.cybercatinc.com Please email me back if you have any further questions or want to purchase any of this limited space. Thank You Parney Galione CyberCat Productions. Inc. http://www.cybercatinc.com Text Link Advertising on WorldSex http://www.worldsex.com check stats at: http://ranks.sextracker.com/spn.html...re&pg=0-0.html The top link is the only link that can be sold on an individual basis. The way it works is that you would be the top text link on a given day ( you can select the day ) and you remain at the top of that days page for 5 days on the main page. The most frequently you can be posted in any placement is every 3rd day. With multiple text link purchases, we also sell the 2 to 5 spots in all 3 columns and the 6 to 15 spots in the left hand column only. Here is the break down. LEFT HAND COLUMN: A top text link in the left hand column sells for $400.00 3 text links for $1000.00 ( in the 2 to 5 spot ) 10 text links for $2000.00. ( in the 2 to 5 spot ) 10 text links for $1500.00. ( in the 6 to 15 spot ) CENTER COLUMN: A top text link in the center column sells for $300.00 3 text links for $800.00 ( in the 2 to 5 spot ) 10 text links for $1500.00. ( in the 2 to 5 spot ) RIGHT HAND COLUMN A top text link in the right hand column sell for $300.00 3 text links for $500.00 ( in the 2 to 5 spot ) 10 text links for $1000.00. ( in the 2 to 5 spot ) If you purchase a top link in conjunction with a banner spot then you will receive a $100.00 discount on the text link. TEXT LINK REQUIRMENTS: To read about the requirements, rules and regulations for a text link on Worldsex please go to: http://www.worldsex.com/submit.htm When getting into multiple text links bear in mind that we need a new URL each time so that it doesn't show up as previously "clicked on" on peoples browsers and we need a new gallery each time. Text link advertising can start anytime. If you are interested in placing a static text link, within the Blue Box at the top of the page where it reads: "WorldSex recommends these Outstanding Pay-Sites" The cost is $1500.00 a month. The link can lead directly to your site. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Parney Galione CyberCat Productions, Inc. http://www.cybercatinc.com -----Original Message----- From: Sleepy Teens [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Advertise on Worldsex Please send me available options for banner advertising on your site. Thanks Terry

03-10-2002, 06:58 PM	#19
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	SleazyDream, I like you and I like your site. Please feel free to e-mail them incase you still think Im a liar. An apology is cool with me.

03-10-2002, 10:41 PM	#20
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	I'll offer you a full and public apology as soon as you buy some ads from cybercat on any of the sites they promote (including mine), till then as far as I'm concerned it looks like you're just blowing smoke. Please prove me wrong. I know I know, I dont' have anywhere near the same amount of class and restraint thehun has - but i gots to be me. he has a pic of a hun that looks like a viking running around yet he acts like a real professional business man. My ancestors ARE Vikings and even though I don't look like em I act like them. if you knew the background of the hun and worldsex and the owners (past and present) you'd know what the hun's auto response was about. They both live in the same country and know each other and there isn't any bad blood there with the current owners. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog. Last edited by SleazyDream; 03-10-2002 at 10:44 PM..

03-11-2002, 06:45 AM	#21
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	Do you know what an "Easy Out" is ? Thats when you shove your own head up your ass and someone gives you the chance to pull it out gracefully. You could have just said you misread my post or you misunderstood it and then looked like a man. I mean thats what you want, right ? You want to be a man like the TheHun. I respect TheHun, but I have no respect for you.

03-11-2002, 07:44 AM	#22
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Don't argue with Sleazydream He's the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite.

03-11-2002, 12:22 PM	#25
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Why do people get their panties in a bunch of TGP submit rules? Now you are pissing with SD. Think about it. If you really annoy him, he might contact his friends, and ask that they find a way to decline your gallery submissions. That would suck, wouldn't it? I think you should hire another guy to handle your TGP submits asap. If you were familiar with the TGP business, this thread would never have started.