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Old 10-22-2005, 12:11 AM   #1
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Lensman WTF, don't you care about charge backs anymore?

Get this....

Everyone knows I stopped working with Lens a couple of years ago..

But I still let him know if I find anything wrong with his sites... ect...

So Loryn's doing a push today on the reality sites... I go into take
a look around.....

I find a serious problem the members signup system, YOU CAN'T GET IN...

I think thats kinda serious....

So I pick up the phone call the office, talk to Loryn for a few seconds ( who was her usual pleasant self). I did not ask for Lens this time was just explaining the problem to Loryn.

She say I should talk to Jeff... I said ok..

The second I get on the phone with this jerk he's being totally obnouxious..
Like how dare I talk to him...

He says...

Jeff : What can I do for you?
Me : You have a serious problem with your members system..
Jeff : OK I'll look into it... ( trying to end the conversation)

Me: Don't you want to know whats wrong?
Jeff: No, Im a pretty smart guy.
(well not really, if you can't get a membership sytem working right)

Me: Do you know who I am?
(I'm thinking he figures Im a customer or something)
Jeff: Only by reputation, your not someone I want to know.

Me: Oh really?
Jeff : Ya

Me: Is Joe around..?
Jeff: Have a nice day.. ( and hangs up)...

Lens what the fuck is this?
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:14 AM   #2
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damn dude....that is fucked up...it doesn't matter who calls, if something is wrong and you are pointing it out to them, it shoulld be listened to

but I am sure there are 3 sides to every story....we shall wait and hear before we pass judgement
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:14 AM   #3
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Hmm waited til now to get this off your chest...lol

Props for the heads up.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:15 AM   #4
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That is pretty fucked up that he talked to you like that.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:19 AM   #5
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Ya, pretty sad....

Customer service should be a given, to bad this guy was so rude!
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heh..hung up on you? nice...
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:28 AM   #9
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Hmm waited til now to get this off your chest...lol

Props for the heads up.
Ya... I was not sure how I was gonna handle it...

I look at the Paycom system for the the account I setup..
Active - Recurring

Membership site : Access Denied....

Thats a serious problem..... that need to be address right away..
and given Jeff's attatude, I did not think it was prudent to wait any longer.

3 side to each story.. maybe.... but that was my exact conversation with him.

I've never met or talked to him before...

and what went on between me and Lens when I left is between me and Lens.

If Lens wants to get into in public, Im game.. no one other than Joe and my self knows everything that happened, neither one of us has anything to hide, but it was between Lens and me... but this is fucking bullshit...
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:29 AM   #10
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Somethign tells me Jeff is about to have his ass handed to him.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:32 AM   #12
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maybe they went and fixed it and they just dont really like you there?

is it fixed now?
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:38 AM   #13
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Get this....

Everyone knows I stopped working with Lens a couple of years ago..

I didn't
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:40 AM   #14
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maybe they went and fixed it and they just dont really like you there?

is it fixed now?

I dunno, let me try it again... and like I said.. it should not matter, he should have at least asked details.

But thats part of the issue.. like I said nobody other then Lens and I know EVERYTHING that went on, that between us.

And since Lens sent us a Bady Crib in January for our new son .. and came to my help in July when a big money issue came up... Its kind of water under the bridge for both of us, and we've moved on..
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This is what usually happens with big co's.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:57 AM   #16
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You ever think that people might not want to deal with you...or maybe he's thinking, " stop being so fucking nosy ". FYI, he checks his work alot more than you did.
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Dude, If you are in no way benefiting from it, why should you even care.
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You ever think that people might not want to deal with you...or maybe he's thinking, " stop being so fucking nosy ". FYI, he checks his work alot more than you did.
Maybe this Jeff guy is an obnoxious, rude fucking prick... how about that?
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I love it when web geeks get cocky like they have achieved something of importance. It's fucking porn. You have done nothing but help a guy jack off. Not something to be cocky about.
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Intresting...So, was the problem fixed anyways? (if there was a real issue)
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You ever think that people might not want to deal with you...or maybe he's thinking, " stop being so fucking nosy ". FYI, he checks his work alot more than you did.
Rilose,

Don't even start with me...

so glad Im not your stepdad anymore, got tired of paying all your bills...

Hope your mom is doing well... Have not talked to her since your Grandfather died... sorry to hear about that, he was a great guy....
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Dude, If you are in no way benefiting from it, why should you even care.
Its called common courtesy, if I see a problem with some that it going to cause issues, Im gonna let the people that need to know, know.. I hope everyone would do the same...
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Look, honestly, if there's really a problem with a site it shouldn't matter WHO points it out as long as it gets pointed out so that it can be fixed. Hell, as long as it was a polite effort to help, it should be taken as such.

Why the rudeness? Is it policy there to be rude to people who no longer work with the company? I wouldn't think so, but then, I'm not in the know and am not in a position to be in the know. Whatever happened between Joe and Mike should be between THEM, and everyone else can go about their own business. Why the hate? I'm almost sure Lens would appreciate being told about a potential problem (or an existing one for that matter.)
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Mike your search a good person. I bet you contribute to your local American Red Cross all the time because you know there are people all over the world who need your help. This world needs more great people like you.
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Rilose,

Don't even start with me...

so glad Im not your stepdad anymore, got tired of paying all your bills...

Hope your mom is doing well... Have not talked to her since your Grandfather died... sorry to hear about that, he was a great guy....
Rant all you want! People who know me, know the story about this idiot!
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Dude, If you are in no way benefiting from it, why should you even care.

See this is a major issue... right here...

Why do I need to benefit directly to let someone know?

Actually it benefits us all.. Thats "X" number of charge backs/refunds that never have to happen that we all know Visa is watching....
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Rant all you want! People who know me, know the story about this idiot!
LMAO.. Rilose.. keep your personal issues out of the board.

Who paid all your rent and bills the last 6 months I was in Cali, even bought you wedding rings cause you could not afford them....

All this after, I had split up with your mom.... so piss off...
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Jeff : What can I do for you?
Me : You have a serious problem with your members system..
Jeff : OK I'll look into it... ( trying to end the conversation)

Me: Don't you want to know whats wrong?
Jeff: No, Im a pretty smart guy.
(well not really, if you can't get a membership sytem working right)

Me: Do you know who I am?
(I'm thinking he figures Im a customer or something)
Jeff: Only by reputation, your not someone I want to know.

Me: Oh really?
Jeff : Ya

Me: Is Joe around..?
Jeff: Have a nice day.. ( and hangs up)...

Lens what the fuck is this?
If that's the exact way it went down I'd be a bit pissed too.

The few times I've had occasion to phone there over the past 5-6 years everyone has been excellent with me, very good problem solvers, very friendly. Sounds like Jeff was having an incredibly bad day.
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Rilose,

Don't even start with me...

so glad Im not your stepdad anymore, got tired of paying all your bills...

Hope your mom is doing well... Have not talked to her since your Grandfather died... sorry to hear about that, he was a great guy....
Ok, GFY is looking more and more like Jerry Springer day by day.
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LMAO.. Rilose.. keep your personal issues out of the board.

Who paid all your rent and bills the last 6 months I was in Cali, even bought you wedding rings cause you could not afford them....

All this after, I had split up with your mom.... so piss off...
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Ok, GFY is looking more and more like Jerry Springer day by day.
No not at all.. his mom and I were married for 15 years...

Rilose was 11 when I married his mother...
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This thread took a very strange turn.

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This thread took a very strange turn.


ya typical....
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sounds like your previous job history there is another issue..

i think your just not well liked, and probably tons of stories about you there..so they probably are thankful for the info, but probably also dont want to hear you pontificate about the problem, lens, etc..

probably the whole, do you know who this is line..like it matters.

i dont know you or am i taking sides, but i can see why they may hang up on you.
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ahhaha i come back and see sum jerry springer shit wtf lol
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Maybe you caught him on a bad day ... or maybe he was flooded with calls and trying to fix this ...
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Sounds to me like the new guy doesn't want to be told how to do his job by the guy who got fired. Let it go, dude. Walk away. Why do you still care?
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Stepdad what? Where? Eeeeks what is happening? Holy cow...

Coming to the board after midnight is an idiot thing to do. I don't care or know who you are. I would normally can this thread but I'm not going to. I'll let Lens take care of you as he sees fit.

On a side note, I will have an announcement tomorrowish so people stay tuned
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sounds like your previous job history there is another issue..

i think your just not well liked, and probably tons of stories about you there..so they probably are thankful for the info, but probably also dont want to hear you pontificate about the problem, lens, etc..

probably the whole, do you know who this is line..like it matters.

i dont know you or am i taking sides, but i can see why they may hang up on you.
Im sure there are tons of stories, parts true, part not true.

Not the point...

I was explaining to Loryn the problem, exaclty how I found it... she asked me to talk to Jeff, I agreed.

There was no being over bearing or "all knowing" I just explained it.

and if you had read the "do you know who this is part" I said that becuase I thought he thought I was a sufer that could not find the "Any Key", because of the way he was talking to me...

I help Lens build everything since we were a very small company.

4-5 years of running all Len's stuff does count for something...
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Sounds to me like the new guy doesn't want to be told how to do his job by the guy who got fired. Let it go, dude. Walk away. Why do you still care?

I did not get fired.. lmao.... I left on my own...

why care.. see above
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Pretty fucked up situation...
Not sure who this "Jeff" guy is, but he needs to respect people... if he wants to keep his job.
I know I wouldent want an asshole working for me, who could potentially cost me thousands.
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