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Old 10-25-2005, 01:53 PM   #101
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:53 PM   #102
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Jojojo - I have been online ALL day + the stupid ass agreement that YOU signed.. what does that make you, using logic?

Dion - You're an idiot. This is business, not a playground where you play marbles. 30 days money-back guarantee? Actually, it was 6 months (6 times of what you mentioned, if you can't figure that out) money-back guarantee that was agreed to upon the guidelines of the contract, and it has now been ~18+ months --- that's 18 times the "30 days money-back guarantee".

Jojojo and Dion, your logic is both flawed to the bone.

By the way, Jojojo, that $500 your getting for giving out a $1000 package should be going to me, that's pretty fucking scummy [not unexpected] of you to do -- no offense to you Trax, I know he owes you as well, though I'm fairly sure he's owed me longer.

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Old 10-25-2005, 05:55 PM   #103
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See people, seobook would have been much cheaper. But alas it would have gone with out all these fun jojojojo threads and drama.

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Old 10-25-2005, 06:01 PM   #104
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Jojojo - I have been online ALL day + the stupid ass agreement that YOU signed.. what does that make you, using logic?

Dion - You're an idiot. This is business, not a playground where you play marbles. 30 days money-back guarantee? Actually, it was 6 months (6 times of what you mentioned, if you can't figure that out) money-back guarantee that was agreed to upon the guidelines of the contract, and it has now been ~18+ months --- that's 18 times the "30 days money-back guarantee".

Jojojo and Dion, your logic is both flawed to the bone.

By the way, Jojojo, that $500 your getting for giving out a $1000 package should be going to me, that's pretty fucking scummy [not unexpected] of you to do -- no offense to you Trax, I know he owes you as well, though I'm fairly sure he's owed me longer.

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WTF - We haven't even finalized our settlement and already you are on here tripping out and calling people you don't even know idiots??

As I said we haven't finalized our settlement and no I have actually owed this $$ to trax long before I entered into your "I get your first born child also" contract. He never asked me for it until recently and now he is getting it.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:01 PM   #105
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thanks for seeing the logic... I definitely have more happy clients vs pissed off ones.

and everyone I have taught is happy.

I don't see why its so hard to fathom that I am sick of being responsible for people's rankings when they give me one site to work on... now that I teach it people can make 10 sites and SOME will work and they will make an ROI... isn't that the most important thing - that they make an ROI on their investment and they are happy? I think teaching is a win win situation for all.
HAHAHA. You don't see why it's so hard to phathom that you are sick of being responsible for people's rankings when they give you one site to work on [or many]? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU AGREED TO DO?

Thanks for just admitting that you had no intention to do what you promised contractually, at all; being responsible for people's site rankings / what I paid you for / what you agreed to do.

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Old 10-25-2005, 06:05 PM   #106
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WTF - We haven't even finalized our settlement and already you are on here tripping out and calling people you don't even know idiots??

As I said we haven't finalized our settlement and no I have actually owed this $$ to trax long before I entered into your "I get your first born child also" contract. He never asked me for it until recently and now he is getting it.
You're saying wtf? I should be the one saying wtf..

You haven't contacted me as you said. It's 9 PM now, yes, there is some of 'today' left, so you still could contact me.

And I know you, and you agreed with Dion, and I also know logic; and what Dion said, and what you agreed to is illogical; I'm merely replacing the word illogical with stupidity.

Also.. haven't finalized our contract? With you acting how you just are acting today alone, there's even less reason for me to believe you'll follow through on anything you state. You said you don't even have $500 to pay me, and the second you did you'd send me that, just to show you're serious that you'll get me my money --- and now that you have the money available, you don't do it.

So --- Who wants to takeover Jojojo's debt he has with me?

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Old 10-25-2005, 06:09 PM   #107
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clearly I am wasting my time with you - if you want your money take me to court - clearly you aren't interested in settling things peacefully.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:28 PM   #108
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:34 PM   #109
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:15 PM   #110
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How long does it take you to setup a website?

I've seen you mention you're *setting* up new sites before but where are they? Are you typing a tag a day?
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:19 PM   #111
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How long does it take you to setup a website?

I've seen you mention you're *setting* up new sites before but where are they? Are you typing a tag a day?
? where? they aren't for public display - they are being made - and Yahoo takes 60-90 days to show results for competitive kw's

If I didn't have to spend hours dealing with bs and trying to close people and teach people I would have more time to work on them.

BTW - Nysus and I are negotiating a settlement out of court.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:21 PM   #112
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clearly I am wasting my time with you - if you want your money take me to court - clearly you aren't interested in settling things peacefully.
You pasted an ICQ message into the board? Okay.. And, it's not logical for you to call me an 'attention seeker' -- at least not in this thread, you owe me money, most people who are owed money will post in a thread of a person that owes them money.

And, you're simply LYING when you said I'm not interested in settling things "peacefully" --- it's already been at least 18 months, meaning at least 12 months so far that you haven't paid me or paid me back anything.

You state you have no assets, and you tell me to 'fucking dream on' when I suggest for you to cut back on your expenses, and use that money to pay me back.

And clearly you're the one wasting your time with me?? I've already wasted 18 months with you... stop trying to flip this around.

And, I could easily offer for $250 and offer the likely exactly the same lessons as you do or better, but I'm not / wouldn't because that would simply create competition for myself.

Ha, okay, I had this sitting here and now that Jojojo said that it was my own choice to renew the domain names for the sites I paid him to do [to make money, as he promised / agreed to do / said he'd feel comfortable and able to do within 6 months]; him trying to say I didn't have to renew them ... which would have been basically wasting ANY value that may have been created from his work.

I'm glad Jojojo has stated he's wasting his time though, as it's also showing it's been a waste of my time.

Anyhow, I will let you know my answer once I've thought it over. And, it may be more than 24 hours before you get my answer; I think that's quite fair since you've had my money for ~12+ months longer than you should of [not that I was assuming you were expecting an answer within 24 hours / 1 day, but incase you were].

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thanks for the effort jojojo but I think some people here doesn't need it.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:54 PM   #114
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You pasted an ICQ message into the board? Okay.. And, it's not logical for you to call me an 'attention seeker' -- at least not in this thread, you owe me money, most people who are owed money will post in a thread of a person that owes them money.

And, you're simply LYING when you said I'm not interested in settling things "peacefully" --- it's already been at least 18 months, meaning at least 12 months so far that you haven't paid me or paid me back anything.

You state you have no assets, and you tell me to 'fucking dream on' when I suggest for you to cut back on your expenses, and use that money to pay me back.

And clearly you're the one wasting your time with me?? I've already wasted 18 months with you... stop trying to flip this around.

And, I could easily offer for $250 and offer the likely exactly the same lessons as you do or better, but I'm not / wouldn't because that would simply create competition for myself.

Ha, okay, I had this sitting here and now that Jojojo said that it was my own choice to renew the domain names for the sites I paid him to do [to make money, as he promised / agreed to do / said he'd feel comfortable and able to do within 6 months]; him trying to say I didn't have to renew them ... which would have been basically wasting ANY value that may have been created from his work.

I'm glad Jojojo has stated he's wasting his time though, as it's also showing it's been a waste of my time.

Anyhow, I will let you know my answer once I've thought it over. And, it may be more than 24 hours before you get my answer; I think that's quite fair since you've had my money for ~12+ months longer than you should of [not that I was assuming you were expecting an answer within 24 hours / 1 day, but incase you were].

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Translation = we are working out a settlement

Learn while you still can people...
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:08 PM   #115
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jojojo I'll teach you some seo for $999 since you can't make any money from it
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jojojo I'll teach you some seo for $999 since you can't make any money from it
Thanks for the bump - I got #1 spots now - except I got them for other people

hit me up peeeeeeeeeople
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do you really find idiots here to send you $$$$ ?

LOL

i got to give you props if you do only an idiot woud send you $$$$
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:47 AM   #120
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do you really find idiots here to send you $$$$ ?

LOL

i got to give you props if you do only an idiot woud send you $$$$
Yes of course - usually people that hire me never reply to my thread they just contact me directly... here is why:

1. I have top ten spots for huge keywords like #1 for handjobs which they can see in this post.

2. I have taught many happy clients and have many references of happy students.

A lot of people would like to know how to make money from se's since the traffic is so good and basically residual. A lot of people will see the opportunity they have here and take advantage of it while its still possible. I am the only seo in 2.5yrs to ever post on gfy for business that posts examples of top ten spots.

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How many months ago did you post about teaching and stating your were building your own sites? No luck with your seo for your own sites?
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How many months ago did you post about teaching and stating your were building your own sites? No luck with your seo for your own sites?
took a while to get them setup - taking time to get them all up - and it will 2-3mths before I see results

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bump for the scammer, send him some money so he can keep on scamming suckers
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Jojojo,

Can you send me a quick e-mail and authz me on icq.

I want to chat with you for a sec.
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FYI, Trax has been paid.

jojojo spent 4 hours with one of my employees yesterday and things went very well. I took a look at the logs of their conversation and it seems to be very good, valuable info. Time will tell but I have a good feeling that we will see excellent results using the information that jojojo taught my employee.

My first dog as a kid was a cocker spaniel named jojo which just adds to the overall positive karma about this situation.
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FYI, Trax has been paid.

jojojo spent 4 hours with one of my employees yesterday and things went very well. I took a look at the logs of their conversation and it seems to be very good, valuable info. Time will tell but I have a good feeling that we will see excellent results using the information that jojojo taught my employee.

My first dog as a kid was a cocker spaniel named jojo which just adds to the overall positive karma about this situation.
thx - was a pleasure talking to him I'm sure you guys will do very well

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FYI, Trax has been paid.

jojojo spent 4 hours with one of my employees yesterday and things went very well. I took a look at the logs of their conversation and it seems to be very good, valuable info. Time will tell but I have a good feeling that we will see excellent results using the information that jojojo taught my employee.

My first dog as a kid was a cocker spaniel named jojo which just adds to the overall positive karma about this situation.
That's good to hear
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FYI, Trax has been paid.

jojojo spent 4 hours with one of my employees yesterday and things went very well. I took a look at the logs of their conversation and it seems to be very good, valuable info. Time will tell but I have a good feeling that we will see excellent results using the information that jojojo taught my employee.

My first dog as a kid was a cocker spaniel named jojo which just adds to the overall positive karma about this situation.
So now all you have to do is sell that log for $500.
Couple of sales and jojojo's promise of excellent returns have been delivered!
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Not a bad idea. Unfortunately I am one of those crazy fuckers that likes to earn my money. I sleep better at night that way.

In this situation, I believe that I received more than I paid for. Time will tell.
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You will get good spots this month...

Word to everyone else... Yahoo and MSN just installed a sandbox... enjoy it while it lasts
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I find it laughable that it's always Wired Guy ripping on jojojo.

I've said this before and I'll say it again jojojo is what he say's he is. I spent $1000 dollars on him and he came down to my office to show me what I had to do. Now I am not the fastest guy on the uptake with SEO(I'm mostly a designer). That having been said jojojo has helped me out tremendously and my sites are moving up in Yahoo all the time. Very soon through a lot of hard work and long hours I hope to have first page listings. This will take time I know but I am confident from what jojojo has taught me that will happen. Also I like jojojo, he's a solid guy. I find him to be quite affable. We ICQ almost every week and he constantly helps me out with whatever questions I may have.

Now let him conduct his buisiness.
Well it's good to see someone giving jojojo's service a thumbs up.

Business services are often recommended or trashed. As for SEO I have found it extremely difficult in the past several years since things went commercial to find a company bragging about SEO to actually do shit. I do well without it but realize I'll have to re-teach myself the works. Lotsa guys claim to know this-or-that but the proof is in the rankings. So for me it's the testimony of pro webmasters who've sampled the services. No more ads and bragging, just word of mouth from now on from reputable pros.
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Well it's good to see someone giving jojojo's service a thumbs up.

Business services are often recommended or trashed. As for SEO I have found it extremely difficult in the past several years since things went commercial to find a company bragging about SEO to actually do shit. I do well without it but realize I'll have to re-teach myself the works. Lotsa guys claim to know this-or-that but the proof is in the rankings. So for me it's the testimony of pro webmasters who've sampled the services. No more ads and bragging, just word of mouth from now on from reputable pros.
I agree Greg - thats why I wouldn't expect to get ANY clients without existing top spots and testimonials/references.

I'm glad I have both.

Sounds like you would benefit from the advanced $500 class Greg - why don't you hit me up on icq

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I agree Greg - thats why I wouldn't expect to get ANY clients without existing top spots and testimonials/references.

I'm glad I have both.

Sounds like you would benefit from the advanced $500 class Greg - why don't you hit me up on icq

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Thanks for the reply JoJoJo. This is a touchy subject for me as I have learned over the years it's best to do things on one's own. It's very, very rare for me to find a service that's worth a dang. Even with affiliates. Of the hundred or so I've tested out the same 3 or 5 still do the job they say after all is said and done. I've whittled things down over the years with what services I pay for. Anybody you see associated or promoted by me you can bet your last dollar they got that recommendation through the full range of battery tests and application. I've been at this for close to 10 years and in that time numerous so called hot shots have come and gone and fucked up and ripped off and stumbled through with all the bells and whistles of any major ad campaign. Bottom line is word-of-mouth in this game. Like Andy Dunn used to have with his old SexSwap newsletter that had word-of-mouth testimonials each and every week. That's where we met Legendary Lars. Andy said wayyyy back then Lars knew his shit and Lars proved it out.

Your program is interesting because you're 'teaching' and not making sky high promises that you can do it. That intrigues me because it puts a level of responsibility on me to learn the ropes not depend on someone to do it for me.

As I said earlier. For years I had no prob with SEs. I always made the first page or second page no prob until they went to place whoring. Yet still I make more than guys on the front page. Again, word of mouth.

If you know the score and have the skills I can see investing in a class. I'll let you know once I've learned more about it.
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Thanks for the reply JoJoJo. This is a touchy subject for me as I have learned over the years it's best to do things on one's own. It's very, very rare for me to find a service that's worth a dang. Even with affiliates. Of the hundred or so I've tested out the same 3 or 5 still do the job they say after all is said and done. I've whittled things down over the years with what services I pay for. Anybody you see associated or promoted by me you can bet your last dollar they got that recommendation through the full range of battery tests and application. I've been at this for close to 10 years and in that time numerous so called hot shots have come and gone and fucked up and ripped off and stumbled through with all the bells and whistles of any major ad campaign. Bottom line is word-of-mouth in this game. Like Andy Dunn used to have with his old SexSwap newsletter that had word-of-mouth testimonials each and every week. That's where we met Legendary Lars. Andy said wayyyy back then Lars knew his shit and Lars proved it out.

Your program is interesting because you're 'teaching' and not making sky high promises that you can do it. That intrigues me because it puts a level of responsibility on me to learn the ropes not depend on someone to do it for me.

As I said earlier. For years I had no prob with SEs. I always made the first page or second page no prob until they went to place whoring. Yet still I make more than guys on the front page. Again, word of mouth.

If you know the score and have the skills I can see investing in a class. I'll let you know once I've learned more about it.
I hear you... ok sounds good... don't wait too long though because soon I won't HAVE TO teach this. If you hit me up on icq I can provide you with a ton of references and happy students - some with top ten spots now ;)

Perhaps there is something we can work out - hit me up and lets have a chat at minimum

I know the score and have the skills - examples of top ten results posted on the first page of this thread + testimonials are evidence of this.
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JoJoJo, I don't use ICQ it drives me nuts. How's about email instead?
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JoJoJo, I don't use ICQ it drives me nuts. How's about email instead?
Email sent
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:50 PM   #143
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You will get good spots this month...

Word to everyone else... Yahoo and MSN just installed a sandbox... enjoy it while it lasts
LOL - jojojo -- why don't you finish off those domains for us...remember what I said about the sandbox months ago?
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LOL - jojojo -- why don't you finish off those domains for us...remember what I said about the sandbox months ago?
All the sites are up I'm now working on domains for other sponsors...

People hit me up now! Don't wait till its too late and I am no longer offering this!!!!!

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All the sites are up I'm now working on domains for other sponsors...
It would indeed be nice to see some results soon.
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Hello JoJoJo - I would like an ICQ session with you please.
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Hello JoJoJo - I would like an ICQ session with you please.
Ok just icq me if you havent already - I got a few new authorization requests today.

AnnaO: Your sites are next - some will go up today :D
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Well it's good to see someone giving jojojo's service a thumbs up.
I don't know anything about the ranking services he used to provide, but the information that jojojo taught me has provided the biggest percentage of my affiliate income over the last 2 years.
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