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Old 10-19-2005, 03:05 AM   #1
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The phrase 'trial of the century' is overused but...

one of the true contenders for that title has just started. Saddam is already arguing with the judge. He is refusing to confirm his name...this is going to be 'fun'.
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I agree the guy is obviously a madman so it's going to make for some good stories
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:15 AM   #4
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one of the true contenders for that title has just started. Saddam is already arguing with the judge. He is refusing to confirm his name...this is going to be 'fun'.
The judges need to remind him of his name and move on

But yea.. gonna be fun and little doubt many diversions opened up by the defense which could get "sensitive" in places.

Milosovich is kinda the same - they all appear to be in denial.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:18 AM   #5
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:24 AM   #6
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The judges need to remind him of his name and move on

But yea.. gonna be fun and little doubt many diversions opened up by the defense which could get "sensitive" in places.

Milosovich is kinda the same - they all appear to be in denial.

I don't know if it was just the translator but I am sure I heard him say 'Mr. Saddam what is your name?'
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The judges need to remind him of his name and move on

But yea.. gonna be fun and little doubt many diversions opened up by the defense which could get "sensitive" in places.

Milosovich is kinda the same - they all appear to be in denial.
he had some seriously funny remarks like "this is falsh tribunal" etc..
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:34 AM   #8
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Saddam is already arguing with the judge. He is refusing to confirm his name...this is going to be 'fun'.
now this is the trial of the century. a trial that will last a century.
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They should just shoot him.
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They should just shoot him.
agreed, and Bush after him since Bush killed even more innocent people than Saddam
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:01 AM   #12
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surprise! It's october!

Notice his attorney is trying to postpone it for 3 months.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:40 AM   #13
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I don't know if it was just the translator but I am sure I heard him say 'Mr. Saddam what is your name?'
Yea.. you're right - he did! Damn these formalities!

Ya know... from the little so far, this looks like a shambles for court proceedings of this scale.

I don't mean the judges, but the apparent lack of facilities ranging from translators onwards. There is even an avoidance in showing faces of other judges, court staff or others present on the basis of them not living thru the trial.

It's understandable that Iraqi people may wish to have their say and the hearing talk place within Iraq, but sure screams out of something along the lines of the ICC.

The other factor is the incredible "guidance" given to this tribunal by the US - it's even US Marshall's doing court security - and judges who were "trained" by US legal "consultants".

Anyone know why broadcasts from the court are delayed 30 mins or so? Is this another amazing technical non-feat on the Iraqi side or are the tapes being monitored prior to broadcasting?

Overall, tho understandable to degrees, - it sure is no place near the level of an international criminal court in either quality/experience of judges or facilities.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:44 AM   #14
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he had some seriously funny remarks like "this is falsh tribunal" etc..
Ya could have taken the exact same words out of Milosovich's trial as well
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:06 AM   #15
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Yea.. you're right - he did! Damn these formalities!

Ya know... from the little so far, this looks like a shambles for court proceedings of this scale.

I don't mean the judges, but the apparent lack of facilities ranging from translators onwards. There is even an avoidance in showing faces of other judges, court staff or others present on the basis of them not living thru the trial.

It's understandable that Iraqi people may wish to have their say and the hearing talk place within Iraq, but sure screams out of something along the lines of the ICC.

The other factor is the incredible "guidance" given to this tribunal by the US - it's even US Marshall's doing court security - and judges who were "trained" by US legal "consultants".

Anyone know why broadcasts from the court are delayed 30 mins or so? Is this another amazing technical non-feat on the Iraqi side or are the tapes being monitored prior to broadcasting?

Overall, tho understandable to degrees, - it sure is no place near the level of an international criminal court in either quality/experience of judges or facilities.

There was somebody on the BBC saying that the translators weren't translating it correctly. They were saying there were some things where Saddam said one thing and the translator said something slightly different but that changed the meaning.
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