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BeatingSkull · 10-05-2005, 06:11 PM

in another thread, it was mentioned that some webmasters wont use anything tracked with nats. i'm not aware of any issues & would like to find out.

is there something wrong with nats? is it true or just a theory? looks like alot of sponsors swear by it & make a big deal about it like it's great?

what are the better more reliable tracking systems.

BeatingSkull · 10-06-2005, 05:56 AM

bump

wallst · 10-06-2005, 05:58 AM

good thread...i would like to know some names of comparable competitors to nats.

broke · 10-06-2005, 06:06 AM

Whoever coded adtools_adv.php needs to be shot....

slapass · 10-06-2005, 06:10 AM

I am not a fan of making 6 clicks to make a link but otherwise it is ok.

Radiate · 10-06-2005, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke

Whoever coded adtools_adv.php needs to be shot....

lol

what do you think's wrong with it? I agree some of the templates aren't very well programmed/laid out but overall I think NATS is boom selection.

Nylz · 10-06-2005, 06:17 AM

I love it

from an affiliate and a sponsor point of view

TMM_John · 10-06-2005, 06:18 AM

This poll is going to be about as effective as the "how much money do you make" polls. You've got a bunch of angry keyboard warrior 12 year olds with 3 hits per year voting (along with good people too of course).

I'd like to see those who don't like NATS post why. It will only help us improve things. However I expect the typical baseless hate and attention mongering as usual.

TMM_John · 10-06-2005, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke

Whoever coded adtools_adv.php needs to be shot....

How would you change it to improve it? Other than shooting people of course.

broke · 10-06-2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

How would you change it to improve it? Other than shooting people of course.

That was obviously a joke -- John.

Give me some time to get some notes together and I'll post them here or hit you up via ICQ with them. It will probably be later on tonight or tomorrow morning before I get to it, but if you're really interested I'll make sure to get back to you.

Joesho · 10-06-2005, 06:48 AM

Nats has been very helpful to us. even went above the call of duty when asked.

Like John said if an affiliate has a problem let them know what it is, they clearly are trying to work with everyone to help them make more money.

TMM_John · 10-06-2005, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke

That was obviously a joke -- John.

Give me some time to get some notes together and I'll post them here or hit you up via ICQ with them. It will probably be later on tonight or tomorrow morning before I get to it, but if you're really interested I'll make sure to get back to you.

LOL, of course I didn't really think you wanted to shoot anyone

I'd love to hear your input (and other people's). We are currently working on revamping the affiliate side of NATS (we did a major rework of the admin in v2) and we need everyone's input to do so. So yes, please send me any info you can. Feel free to either post it here or call me or get me on icq/aim/email.

bigdog · 10-06-2005, 07:25 AM

Llike i said before how can one acutally convert worse on nats, sponsors must have changed the tour a bit, proably the join page maybe thats why joins are down.

fris · 10-06-2005, 07:30 AM

love it, amd brad shaw just messaged me says he likes it too, but he wont admit it, so i am posting on behalf of him.

Major (Tom) · 10-06-2005, 07:33 AM

nats so rocks!!

duke

iac · 10-06-2005, 07:39 AM

We've used their knowledgebase to design and integrate affiliates for clients...
and from a designers point of view, the knowledgebase was very useful and we found it easy to integrate the templates with our design
So from a designer's perspective, NATS is great!

Wizzo · 10-06-2005, 07:40 AM

To be honest, was never really a fan of NATS until we used it for MayorsMoney and have to say its quite awesome piece of software!

Like anything takes a little time to adapt and figure out ALL the features, but I'm certain its strengths far outweigh any weaknesses and support has been awesome in addressing any issues we have had...

ShaneRyale · 10-06-2005, 07:52 AM

I LOVE NATS! The flexibility and additional features that are able to be offered to your affiliates is great. If you want to do it, then it's probably already in there. If it's not, you can be pretty sure it will be there in the next update.

Raven · 10-06-2005, 08:04 AM

As with every huge program, it takes a little getting used to....especially for me, who is program handicapped......the support team there answers every ticket in a timely manner....that's extremely important to me, even when I'm asking Duh! questions.....

I'm sure I'm not the only one who asks duh questions, but patience is their virtue.

Are there things that could be changed? Of course there are. I have never seen a program that has everything.....nats comes close.....and they are constantly working on improving and refining. And, no they didn't pay me to say this.

We keep finding neat things to play with ..it's a pretty powerful program.

Dalai lama · 10-06-2005, 08:11 AM

I'm using NATS as my backend and it simply rocks.

Paul&John · 10-06-2005, 08:26 AM

it fucking rox!

solonline · 10-06-2005, 08:27 AM

we moved over to Nats a few months ago, and I never looked back.
Brill program

Derek_M · 10-06-2005, 09:29 AM

NATS works great for us at MrSkinCash and our affiliates seem to like it as well. The updates that they have done in the last year have all been great improvements and they seem to pay attention to requests. Anytime I have ever had an issue, they have addressed it, and usually pointed out that it was something stupid I did. I hate when they are right.

Halcyon · 10-06-2005, 10:15 AM

I've just started working with the people at NATS and couldn't be more impressed. And have had no problems at all working with programs who use it.

Radiate · 10-06-2005, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek_MrSkin

NATS works great for us at MrSkinCash and our affiliates seem to like it as well. The updates that they have done in the last year have all been great improvements and they seem to pay attention to requests. Anytime I have ever had an issue, they have addressed it, and usually pointed out that it was something stupid I did. I hate when they are right.

Yeah NATS team is great.

Derek I saw you at webmaster access every day, I wish I had actually met you.

KingK7 · 10-06-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

love it, amd brad shaw just messaged me says he likes it too, but he wont admit it, so i am posting on behalf of him.

Gotta agree though, I like NATS alot. Very good program and good support.

RaDiCaL_Kevin · 10-06-2005, 11:16 AM

Since our program started using nats it has allowed our affiliates and given us the chance to add more tools than before at a faster rate.. Anytime we need some help or any question the whole team at at Nats is there to help us.

Nats is all good in our books!

TMM_John · 10-06-2005, 11:19 AM

Hrmm... still no posts of WHY from the people voting no. Always interesting.

PersianKitty · 10-06-2005, 11:40 AM

Go NATS or go home

deniska · 10-06-2005, 11:55 AM

NATS great product.. great people.. whats not to like huh?

Babagirls · 10-06-2005, 11:58 AM

for some reason, nats doesnt rebill as good as ccbill and seems harder to get sales to. i dont know, maybe its just me. but every nats sponsor i've sent traffic to is like pulling teeth to catch a sale but if i threw that shit to ccbill, i'd get mad signups. weird.

montythestrange · 10-06-2005, 12:02 PM

NATS is OK for people who can't program their own affiliate system. All of the code is encoded, so easy changes become really hard workarounds. Of course, a custom application will always suit your needs a lot better, but, for a semi-turnkey product, it does the job.

View Poll Results: to NATS or not!!
NATS rocks !!	59	64.13%
NATS bites donkey balls!!	25	27.17%
i dont know-- never used sponsor with NATS before	8	8.70%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

10-05-2005, 06:11 PM	#1
BeatingSkull Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Confederate States of America Posts: 713	who dont like NATS!! in another thread, it was mentioned that some webmasters wont use anything tracked with nats. i'm not aware of any issues & would like to find out. is there something wrong with nats? is it true or just a theory? looks like alot of sponsors swear by it & make a big deal about it like it's great? what are the better more reliable tracking systems. __________________ "Every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday in October PussyCash will pay you a $100 FOR EVERY IMLIVE SIGN-UP you refer"

10-06-2005, 05:56 AM	#2
BeatingSkull Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Confederate States of America Posts: 713	bump __________________ "Every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday in October PussyCash will pay you a $100 FOR EVERY IMLIVE SIGN-UP you refer"

10-06-2005, 05:58 AM	#3
wallst Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: South East Posts: 1,621	good thread...i would like to know some names of comparable competitors to nats. __________________ Earl Miller Cash 20th Congress

10-06-2005, 06:06 AM	#4
broke Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Someplace Windy Posts: 4,501	Whoever coded adtools_adv.php needs to be shot.... __________________ Perfect Gonzo

10-06-2005, 06:10 AM	#5
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	I am not a fan of making 6 clicks to make a link but otherwise it is ok.

10-06-2005, 06:17 AM	#7
Nylz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 8,285	I love it from an affiliate and a sponsor point of view __________________ No sig.

10-06-2005, 06:18 AM	#8
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,664	This poll is going to be about as effective as the "how much money do you make" polls. You've got a bunch of angry keyboard warrior 12 year olds with 3 hits per year voting (along with good people too of course). I'd like to see those who don't like NATS post why. It will only help us improve things. However I expect the typical baseless hate and attention mongering as usual. __________________ Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

10-06-2005, 06:48 AM	#11
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	Nats has been very helpful to us. even went above the call of duty when asked. Like John said if an affiliate has a problem let them know what it is, they clearly are trying to work with everyone to help them make more money. __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

10-06-2005, 07:25 AM	#13
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Llike i said before how can one acutally convert worse on nats, sponsors must have changed the tour a bit, proably the join page maybe thats why joins are down.

10-06-2005, 07:30 AM	#14
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,397	love it, amd brad shaw just messaged me says he likes it too, but he wont admit it, so i am posting on behalf of him. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-06-2005, 07:33 AM	#15
Major (Tom) White Pride Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 31,319	nats so rocks!! duke __________________ WHITE LIVES MATTER

10-06-2005, 07:39 AM	#16
iac Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 419	We've used their knowledgebase to design and integrate affiliates for clients... and from a designers point of view, the knowledgebase was very useful and we found it easy to integrate the templates with our design So from a designer's perspective, NATS is great! __________________ http://www.insaneadultcreations.com [email protected] ICQ# 223472449

10-06-2005, 07:40 AM	#17
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	To be honest, was never really a fan of NATS until we used it for MayorsMoney and have to say its quite awesome piece of software! Like anything takes a little time to adapt and figure out ALL the features, but I'm certain its strengths far outweigh any weaknesses and support has been awesome in addressing any issues we have had... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

10-06-2005, 07:52 AM	#18
ShaneRyale Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 961	I LOVE NATS! The flexibility and additional features that are able to be offered to your affiliates is great. If you want to do it, then it's probably already in there. If it's not, you can be pretty sure it will be there in the next update. __________________ Shane - Affiliate Manager [email protected] ICQ: 170164556 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

10-06-2005, 08:04 AM	#19
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	As with every huge program, it takes a little getting used to....especially for me, who is program handicapped......the support team there answers every ticket in a timely manner....that's extremely important to me, even when I'm asking Duh! questions..... I'm sure I'm not the only one who asks duh questions, but patience is their virtue. Are there things that could be changed? Of course there are. I have never seen a program that has everything.....nats comes close.....and they are constantly working on improving and refining. And, no they didn't pay me to say this. We keep finding neat things to play with ..it's a pretty powerful program. __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

10-06-2005, 08:11 AM	#20
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	I'm using NATS as my backend and it simply rocks. __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

10-06-2005, 08:26 AM	#21
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10-06-2005, 08:27 AM	#22
solonline Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: EU- Posts: 718	we moved over to Nats a few months ago, and I never looked back. Brill program

10-06-2005, 09:29 AM	#23
Derek_M Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,105	NATS works great for us at MrSkinCash and our affiliates seem to like it as well. The updates that they have done in the last year have all been great improvements and they seem to pay attention to requests. Anytime I have ever had an issue, they have addressed it, and usually pointed out that it was something stupid I did. I hate when they are right. __________________ Derek Meklir Chief Operating Officer HUSTLER / LFP Inc. / Flynt Management Group LLC ICQ: 284137502

10-06-2005, 10:15 AM	#24
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	I've just started working with the people at NATS and couldn't be more impressed. And have had no problems at all working with programs who use it. __________________ HAL on TEDx:

10-06-2005, 11:16 AM	#27
RaDiCaL_Kevin Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 276	Since our program started using nats it has allowed our affiliates and given us the chance to add more tools than before at a faster rate.. Anytime we need some help or any question the whole team at at Nats is there to help us. Nats is all good in our books! __________________ Exclusive & Unique Content - FGHs - $25 PPS - 60% Rev $25 Sign Up Bonus! Nats or CCBill!

10-06-2005, 11:19 AM	#28
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,664	Hrmm... still no posts of WHY from the people voting no. Always interesting. __________________ Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

10-06-2005, 11:40 AM	#29
PersianKitty Meow Media Inc. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In the valley of the sun, cactus, tacos, tequila, and nod Posts: 7,785	Go NATS or go home __________________ Wondering what webmaster programs PK uses? Check them out here!

10-06-2005, 11:55 AM	#30
deniska Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 1,053	NATS great product.. great people.. whats not to like huh?

10-06-2005, 11:58 AM	#31
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	for some reason, nats doesnt rebill as good as ccbill and seems harder to get sales to. i dont know, maybe its just me. but every nats sponsor i've sent traffic to is like pulling teeth to catch a sale but if i threw that shit to ccbill, i'd get mad signups. weird. __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

10-06-2005, 12:02 PM	#32
montythestrange Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NoCal Posts: 184	NATS is OK for people who can't program their own affiliate system. All of the code is encoded, so easy changes become really hard workarounds. Of course, a custom application will always suit your needs a lot better, but, for a semi-turnkey product, it does the job. __________________ If you put instant coffee in the microwave, do you go back in time? DatingGold Rocks!