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Old 10-06-2005, 11:27 AM   #101
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:29 AM   #103
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Any business which is taken over which has outstanding debts are not just erased because the previous owner(s) have decided to fuck off.

well did he sell his business or just the website? a website is only an asset of a business, not the business itself
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:30 AM   #104
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Hey Shemp. He's not the only big TGP owner that is barely surviving by getting money from paid spots way in advance just to pay his bills, getting further and further behind. I am totally convinced that the lower quality traffic of thumbnail TGPs has not only reduced the already low quality of tgp trade traffic, but reduced signups to almost nothing. Not to mention with all those thumbnails on a site surfer will rarely click a banner anymore.

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Old 10-06-2005, 11:35 AM   #105
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he said 'a rather large TGP' not 'a rather large TGP owner', gee, some people reply before they read the thread ;)
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:40 AM   #107
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Hey Shemp. He's not the only big TGP owner that is barely surviving by getting money from paid spots way in advance just to pay his bills, getting further and further behind. I am totally convinced that the lower quality traffic of thumbnail TGPs has not only reduced the already low quality of tgp trade traffic, but reduced signups to almost nothing. Not to mention with all those thumbnails on a site surfer will rarely click a banner anymore.
Okay, you just sold me: I'll never buy TGP traffic again!
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:54 AM   #108
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Hey Shemp. He's not the only big TGP owner that is barely surviving by getting money from paid spots way in advance just to pay his bills, getting further and further behind. I am totally convinced that the lower quality traffic of thumbnail TGPs has not only reduced the already low quality of tgp trade traffic, but reduced signups to almost nothing. Not to mention with all those thumbnails on a site surfer will rarely click a banner anymore.
If that's true, that's frightening
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:03 PM   #109
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:05 PM   #110
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Give that quote it's own thread already
No shit... it's a subject on it's own....
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:14 PM   #111
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well did he sell his business or just the website? a website is only an asset of a business, not the business itself
To the best of my knowledge, all of his websites were either sold or taken over by former partners (including digibucks, his fringe TGP`s, his
freehost etc.). No doubt people who were owed money.

I was even told by Perrins himself a day or two before he disappeared that I would be provided with some of the smaller fringe sites so to try and address the debt. I told this to the new owner of the sites but he clearly wasn`t interested in doing the decent thing and working with me.

I have to feel for some of the other traffic providers who were knocked for far more than me.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:24 PM   #112
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Not at all, I want this fucker to know I am not playing. I do not understand some people. You have a debt you pay it before you spend any money on yourself. Isn't that the way it's supposed to work?

That isn't how it works in the states. It is all about leveraging 100% of your income regardless how much it is. It is called keeping up with jone's which is rolling in the 100k car, interest only adjustable mortgage etc....fucking losers.

Reveal the TGP because he might pay you this time but will eventually fuck someone over in the near future. Don't be selfish. It isn't fair to the next poor sap about to be reamed. This guy is obviously lousy with managing his finances.
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he said 'a rather large TGP' not 'a rather large TGP owner', gee, some people reply before they read the thread ;)
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:37 PM   #114
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:10 PM   #115
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:18 PM   #116
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:36 PM   #117
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Ironically enough.. it's coming up 404 for me..

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Old 10-06-2005, 04:24 PM   #118
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How the hell did SleazyDream.com make it into the XBiz Awards as a nomination? CyberCat connection? Message everyone you know to nominate? Honestly..

What's the criteria for being one of the nominations accepted? The top sites that get nominated?

Matt
I would assume Sleazydream made it into the awards because he actually gives back to the community unlike a little broke bitch like you Nysus who lives in his parent's apartment.

Sleazy contributes so much to the community and is one of the most generous people in my life I have ever met.

He also runs a very successful TGP that has been in the sextracker top 20 for years... He should be a good portrait of what other tgp webmasters should strive to achive. He's successful, professional and is very kind to others in business and in our personal lives too.

I commend Xbiz for nominating him.

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I would assume Sleazydream made it into the awards because he actually gives back to the community unlike a little broke bitch like you Nysus who lives in his parent's apartment.

Sleazy contributes so much to the community and is one of the most generous people in my life I have ever met.

He also runs a very successful TGP that has been in the sextracker top 20 for years... He should be a good portrait of what other tgp webmasters should strive to achive. He's successful, professional and is very kind to others in business and in our personal lives too.

I commend Xbiz for nominating him.

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sleazy is a prick nothing more or less stop working on getting his ad biz.
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LOL! Haven't you ever heard of sticking up for your friends?

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Sleazy kept his word and MCed the $5000 cash giveaway in Miami. He could have snaked out but he did not. He was obviously embaressed to be seen with me but he did it. That took guts
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Sleazy kept his word and MCed the $5000 cash giveaway in Miami. He could have snaked out but he did not. He was obviously embaressed to be seen with me but he did it. That took guts
OMFG, did I just say something nice about Sleazy? I must be getting soft in my old age. LOL
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:19 PM   #125
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Drama! choker, why dont you offer free traffic to the one who guess who is it... ?

j/k. I hope you will get your money!

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Old 10-06-2005, 05:42 PM   #126
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TGP traffic is becoming so fucking worthless these days that I have almost completely stopped working on TGP's altogether.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:46 PM   #127
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Sleazy kept his word and MCed the $5000 cash giveaway in Miami. He could have snaked out but he did not. He was obviously embaressed to be seen with me but he did it. That took guts

I can't see you and Sleazy deap sea fishing anytime in the next 8 months or so... But I wouldn't be surprised to see you both making money on the drama between you two. Both to smart to not cash in on it.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:58 PM   #128
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I am totally convinced that the lower quality traffic of thumbnail TGPs has not only reduced the already low quality of tgp trade traffic, but reduced signups to almost nothing. Not to mention with all those thumbnails on a site surfer will rarely click a banner anymore.
I don't disagree with your conclusion, although I think your reasoning is wrong. Banner clicks - not only in the adult world - were in the toilet long before thumb-preview TGP's appeared.

Two things have really killed the value of TGP traffic. The first is the nature of TGP's (any type of free site for that matter), which is that any decent free site with a fair amount of surfer appeal must attract more and more bookmarkers as time goes by. The argument that some of these come back and buy again later may be valid up to a point, but reasonably it applies to a small minority. Most bookmarkers, which many sites have had 5+ years to accumulate, must inevitably be confirmed freeloaders.

But perhaps the biggest impact has been the introduction of bought traffic: a consequence of everyone and his brother wanting a TGP with 100K+ visitors a day. As a result a large proportion of the TGP traffic pool these days is near worthless traffic, much of it from countries that are unacceptable to the card processors, even if the surfers want to spend money.
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Hum ...400k ?

Whoever is having this payment issue please contact me: lizy -@- netthinkmedia.com

We can bail you out ;-))
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:27 PM   #130
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Hum ...400k ?

Whoever is having this payment issue please contact me: lizy -@- netthinkmedia.com

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Exactly... If you have 400K in traffic a month, you'd better be living in a $725K house, drive a solid car and have no problem scrapping up some change to go out at night...
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Exactly... If you have 400K in traffic a month, you'd better be living in a $725K house, drive a solid car and have no problem scrapping up some change to go out at night...
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I would assume Sleazydream made it into the awards because he actually gives back to the community unlike a little broke bitch like you Nysus who lives in his parent's apartment.

Sleazy contributes so much to the community and is one of the most generous people in my life I have ever met.

He also runs a very successful TGP that has been in the sextracker top 20 for years... He should be a good portrait of what other tgp webmasters should strive to achive. He's successful, professional and is very kind to others in business and in our personal lives too.

I commend Xbiz for nominating him.

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Exactly... If you have 400K in traffic a month, you'd better be living in a $725K house, drive a solid car and have no problem scrapping up some change to go out at night...
Dont be cheap. Anyone can do that.
How does $5 million home, staff of at least 50 people making sure everything is okay, dinner served several times per day, 3 ton amoured truck for your transportation, allways a personal guard following you sound?
Offcourse there is a nice view over the city too

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I am totally convinced that the lower quality traffic of thumbnail TGPs has not only reduced the already low quality of tgp trade traffic, but reduced signups to almost nothing. Not to mention with all those thumbnails on a site surfer will rarely click a banner anymore.
i make sales with hosted galleries listed my tgps , none of them have more than 2500 hits per day . and i do not sell gallery spots. its not huge but a 3 - 5 a week by TGP is enough, i don't count on it as a money making part of my biz , it just pays the cigarettes. but if i was not as lazy and developed the traffic i guess it would bring decent income monthly.

i think if you don't make money with your tgp , whatever its size , you'd better go find a day job. if you spend more in hosting / bandwith / traffic buying than you get from signups , just give up !
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lotsa talk going on.........your deadline has passed......or you going to do what you said in the first place or was it just tough talk and no action
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lotsa talk going on.........your deadline has passed......or you going to do what you said in the first place or was it just tough talk and no action
Still got over 12 hours. He has agreed to pay me back what he owes anyway. I am sorry if people get mad if I do not post the site, but this thread was intended to get the person to pay up. And to out him if he does not. A little advice to anyone buying a site......... Take 1/3rd of the sales proceeds and put it into a 6 month escrow. This is the norm in non web world and should be the same here. It's only common sense.
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There's still LOTS of money in TGP traffic, it all depends on what you do with that traffic. I myself for example ONLY send traffic to hosted galleries and so far this year my overall ratio is 1:1335 with 11,034 total sales and 7,840 rebills.

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Old 10-07-2005, 08:44 AM   #147
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There's still LOTS of money in TGP traffic, it all depends on what you do with that traffic. I myself for example ONLY send traffic to hosted galleries and so far this year my overall ratio is 1:1335 with 11,034 total sales and 7,840 rebills.

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Old 10-08-2005, 04:47 AM   #148
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There's still LOTS of money in TGP traffic, it all depends on what you do with that traffic. I myself for example ONLY send traffic to hosted galleries and so far this year my overall ratio is 1:1335 with 11,034 total sales and 7,840 rebills.

hosted galleries rocks if you know what to do with them, i even made crazy sales with FHGs on 404 pages . a ratio of 1:157 average on extremepaychecks FHGs last year, only with 404. just had a listing of all their FHGs per category as a 404 page .

i m experimenting new 404s at the moment but i guess i'll put it back on, at 35 per signup its free money
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:10 AM   #149
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Wow $665 dollars. Sex.Com and Grant Media make that in 1 hour.
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