Webair : It's amazing how people are scared to give negative comments about them. - GoFuckYourself.com

NoCarrier · 10-04-2005, 08:47 AM

It's not like you'll be killed by the Webair nazis (Well, I don't think so).

Allright, nazis was a bit harsh. Let's say : Followers.

Newbreed ( ArikaAmes.com ) who lost everything after hosting with Webair is also afraid to use the word "Webair".

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Originally Posted by newbreed

It's a shame our current host has not contacted us back to look into these issues and options.

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Originally Posted by newbreed

Do I plan on changing host because of this? That's been discussed, but I am honestly not sure. Ironically the bill for this month came throught yesterday, it was another hard pill to swallow...lol

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=523802

Moral of the story : Sometimes negative comments can actually HELP getting better. I don't understand why some people are afraid/anxious about telling the truth.

StuartD · 10-04-2005, 08:49 AM

I knew who he was talking about in his part about the mysql server...

"With a location of "REMOVEDBUTMYSERVERNAME.webair.com" it's easy to understand why after i had been told this, then looked at the DB location, I would come to this conclusion."

See the domain?

NoCarrier · 10-04-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

I knew who he was talking about in his part about the mysql server...

"With a location of "REMOVEDBUTMYSERVERNAME.webair.com" it's easy to understand why after i had been told this, then looked at the DB location, I would come to this conclusion."

See the domain?

I think you missed my point. I didn't find out he used Webair because of my telepathic powers.

webair · 10-04-2005, 08:54 AM

again there are 3 sides to this story...perhaps speak to Akira we have a back even though they were not on our ew backup systems...i have yet to hear from newbreed in fact the only one ive spoken to is akira friday and just got off with her now...post all the negativity you like this is not a webair issue

NoCarrier · 10-04-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by webair

again there are 3 sides to this story...perhaps speak to Akira we have a back even though they were not on our ew backup systems...i have yet to hear from newbreed in fact the only one ive spoken to is akira friday and just got off with her now...post all the negativity you like this is not a webair issue

I know, your policy is "The client on GFY is always wrong".

BVF · 10-04-2005, 08:57 AM

If webair ever fucks up, I'll be the first one to complain...But they haven't fucked up yet. At least not with me.

MaDalton · 10-04-2005, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by webair

again there are 3 sides to this story...perhaps speak to Akira we have a back even though they were not on our ew backup systems...i have yet to hear from newbreed in fact the only one ive spoken to is akira friday and just got off with her now...post all the negativity you like this is not a webair issue

her name is Arika

webair · 10-04-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier

I know, your policy is "The client on GFY is always wrong".

not true at all but i will say alot of the time its a client side issue i just feel GFY should not be used for tech support for hosting companies...i still have yet to hear from new breed...we restored his deal gave him a new drive what more should i do? I called Arika on fri got a totally different vibe/story on the matter and im still waiting to hear from new breed...anyone who hosts with is knows that we are easily accessible.

Theo · 10-04-2005, 09:04 AM

Akira Yamamoto

EscortBiz · 10-04-2005, 09:05 AM

people on gfy scared? everyone here can beat up bob sapp and tyson together

simple simon · 10-04-2005, 09:06 AM

webair for mission critical members area?

Ummm NO, but for galleries, sure they are great

Damian_Maxcash · 10-04-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by webair

not true at all but i will say alot of the time its a client side issue i just feel GFY should not be used for tech support for hosting companies...i still have yet to hear from new breed...we restored his deal gave him a new drive what more should i do? I called Arika on fri got a totally different vibe/story on the matter and im still waiting to hear from new breed...anyone who hosts with is knows that we are easily accessible.

I stopped reading when you stopped speaking English.

About 2 posts ago.

chupachups · 10-04-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Akira Yamamoto

I second that.

webair · 10-04-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by simple simon

webair for mission critical members area?

Ummm NO, but for galleries, sure they are great

mission critical is what we are best at =)) if you notice its usually a $9.95 client that's comlaining....

With regards to Arikas dedicated account read above ... not to mention I would advise if your running mission critical you should have a couple of drives and/or a load balanced or raid setup...

webair · 10-04-2005, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I stopped reading when you stopped speaking English.

About 2 posts ago.

eh...learn english =)

simple simon · 10-04-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by webair

mission critical is what we are best at =)) if you notice its usually a $9.95 client that's comlaining....

With regards to Arikas dedicated account read above ... not to mention I would advise if your running mission critical you should have a couple of drives and/or a load balanced or raid setup...

can you tell me what LARGE paysites host with you?

pornguy · 10-04-2005, 09:13 AM

I have said severaltimes that when we tried webair, we had the worst Customer Service that we have ever had. AOL was even better to deal with. I know AOL is not a host, but they are something to compare to for bad CS.

dig420 · 10-04-2005, 09:14 AM

Todd's a nice guy. Webair has no thugs that I'm aware of. Why would someone be afraid to post about them if they've had a problem?

webair · 10-04-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Todd's a nice guy. Webair has no thugs that I'm aware of. Why would someone be afraid to post about them if they've had a problem?

webairthugs.com good idea

porn guy - I don't really know all of your details of your account so I cannot comment if you want to hit me up ill give you some free time if you had a justifiable issue with us at one point im a fair person to deal with...

simple simon · 10-04-2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by simple simon

can you tell me what LARGE paysites host with you?

Juicy D. Links · 10-04-2005, 09:28 AM

I aint pointing fingures but when you running a aff program you need some raid shit and some load balancing shit word

Juicy D. Links · 10-04-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by simple simon

can you tell me what LARGE paysites host with you?

What hosting company you work for?

Juicy D. Links · 10-04-2005, 09:29 AM

also SCSI drives give me WOOD

Damian_Maxcash · 10-04-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Todd's a nice guy. Webair has no thugs that I'm aware of. Why would someone be afraid to post about them if they've had a problem?

Im sure Todd is a nice guy - but they have overstreched themselves.

Ive seen it again and again how they are a great host - but very poor service.

In the end I just moved my servers away from them.

6 months later, when to be honest I had forgoten who they where, I got an email saying they had cancelled my account.

Oh dear! What a shame.

simple simon · 10-04-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

What hosting company you work for?

noone but got any examples of large paysites on webair space since they are mission critical specialists like they say. It seems noone can ask or question webair without being accused of working for another paysite. Pretty funny, insecurity comes to mind

BVF · 10-04-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by simple simon

noone

exactly....so why the fuck does anybody have to answer YOU when you're too much of a pussy to reveal whether or not you're a surfer?

webair · 10-04-2005, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

exactly....so why the fuck does anybody have to answer YOU when you're too much of a pussy to reveal whether or not you're a surfer?

sorry what are you referring to?

ahh i see now someone just hit me on aim i have simple simon on ignore =)) as does half of gfy from what i understand

simple simon · 10-04-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

exactly....so why the fuck does anybody have to answer YOU when you're too much of a pussy to reveal whether or not you're a surfer?

exactly n oone in thier right mind would host anything of serious value at webair, kinda what I figured.

tapatio · 10-04-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by simple simon

siccash I think

fris · 10-04-2005, 09:43 AM

webair is garbage.

phatservers answers support emails within 5 mins.

most of the staff mike has are fucking clueless.

love when the mafia of webair people come to defend how great they are.

all i know is i stuck up for them while mike paid for my sig, even tho the support was crap. i felt bad doing it even tho it was against my will.

the best part was me getting threats froim mike cause i called his host "mediocre"

after i told him to fuck off about hiring me on a monthly basis.

and he knows his servers are fucked up. because he had to hire a team of security people to secure them, after i saved him time by pointing out holes.

so if theirs russians/pakistanis crawling on your servers and your data gets deleted, thats probably why.

but i am sure the admins dont even monitor logs. i know its hard task to tail the auth and messages and security log.

but if mike would hire trained people to ipfw stupid countries. things wouldnt happen like this.

anyways. you picked webair, so its your own fault.

pick a real host.

tony286 · 10-04-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

also SCSI drives give me WOOD

scsi is so yesterday sata is the way to go a shit load cheaper almost as fast. I have been a webair customer for 4 yrs now, Mike has been right on the job anything I need and has always done the right thing.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-04-2005, 09:45 AM

LOL...

I have never liked WebAir since they hosted toolbar installers.

They can GF-Themselves.

I have proof still to this day, with screen grabs of Trace routes.
So denial will just make it worse.

newbreed · 10-04-2005, 09:46 AM

Guys I just got off the phone with Mike and explained the whole thing, he is taking care of us right now and offered to pay for it. I did not intend for the other thread to turn into a Webair bashing thread, they have never done us wrong. This is one of those things that happens and everyone handled it the best they could.

High Quality · 10-04-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by webair

mission critical is what we are best at =)) if you notice its usually a $9.95 client that's comlaining....

With regards to Arikas dedicated account read above ... not to mention I would advise if your running mission critical you should have a couple of drives and/or a load balanced or raid setup...

Well put mike.

We host our "mission critical" members area at webair - we have a hardware raid1 setup. IDE drives are flakey guys - if you use them and are mission critical, you simply MUST have a raid1 setup. Yes it costs more, but how much does 4 days of downtime like arika's truely cost in the end?

Webair is not perfect - no hosting company is, but if you ask me, its the best price/value host out there. That is why I host there, even my mission critical stuff.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-04-2005, 09:52 AM

The past is a bitch. I wouldnt trust these fucks for my hosting.
They fucked your traffic, they will fuck you to.

ORLY THE OWL · 10-04-2005, 09:55 AM

Webair sucks.

They offer relatively cheap prices in expense of quality and tech support.
Their 3rd world techs don't know what the fuck they are doing.

WebAir might be taking care of their big clients, but small to middle businesses encounter overall bad quality.

simple simon · 10-04-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

The past is a bitch. I wouldnt trust these fucks for my hosting.
They fucked your traffic, they will fuck you to.

Anything for a buck huh mike

MickeyG · 10-04-2005, 10:06 AM

I'm surprised TurboAngel isn't here defending them yet.

10-04-2005, 10:06 AM

Instead of bashing a Web host, just use another if you need to... its not that tough people.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-04-2005, 10:07 AM

People should know exactly what the whole isearch was about.

It was about FUCKING YOU.
The Webmaster.

bigdog · 10-04-2005, 10:09 AM

put it to you like this, i would host galleries on webair, but nothing real important that might require support from time to time

webair · 10-04-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyG

I'm surprised TurboAngel isn't here defending them yet.

There is really nothing to defend =)

adultchica · 10-04-2005, 10:14 AM

I just switched to webair last month. What do you mean they fuck with our traffic? And if a client that is only paying 9.95 isn't as important as your dedicated clients, then that is the wrong attitude to have. Because when that 9.95 client gets bigger and better and needs more expensive hosting or dedicated servers, you won't retain their business!

I don't have any right to complain at this point, Webair has been good to me so far.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-04-2005, 10:15 AM

I thought you were going to post more examples. One example isn't exactly "scared people"

I have hosted with almost every host on the gfy block, and i have to say webair has never let me down yet. BUT i haven't had any problem with them in 2 years, so i haven't needed support for much. I have had much better support from other host's , but then again i only recieved "great support" because the sites had problems , so its hard t compare against webair who i haven't had any problems with thus not needing support. I would rather be up with no support than down with great support

webair · 10-04-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I thought you were going to post more examples. One example isn't exactly "scared people"

I have hosted with almost every host on the gfy block, and i have to say webair has never let me down yet. BUT i haven't had any problem with them in 2 years, so i haven't needed support for much. I have had much better support from other host's , but then again i only recieved "great support" because the sites had problems , so its hard t compare against webair who i haven't had any problems with thus not needing support. I would rather be up with no support than down with great support

Smokey thanks for the positive feedback like i said earlier 99% of the negative posts are from a $9.95 client that does not know how to set up an email account, or haters who have nothing better to do (i.e simple simon) It's all good people that host with us know what's what...

If you have an issue we offer support via live person support chat 24/7/365 and same with toll free phone 1.866.WEBAIR1 We're always there...

xlogger · 10-04-2005, 10:21 AM

Damn, everyone turned on webair.

kosta · 10-04-2005, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by webair

mission critical is what we are best at =)) if you notice its usually a $9.95 client that's comlaining....

Nice business ethics.

Damian_Maxcash · 10-04-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xlogger

Damn, everyone turned on webair.

Yeah - all us $9.95 webmasters arnt worth shit.

lol - btw see my previous post.

Jer · 10-04-2005, 10:28 AM

I host with webair.com since 2001 or 2002 and I've never had a big problem with them. If something bad ever happens (knocks on wood) I'll talk to Mike and bring it to GFY if needed. I always post good comments about them and I wouldn't be afraid to post a negative one.

webair · 10-04-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kosta

Nice business ethics.

Nothing unethical about that $9.95 clients pay the least and use the most of our resources...fact.

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dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Todd's a nice guy. Webair has no thugs that I'm aware of. Why would someone be afraid to post about them if they've had a problem?

10-04-2005, 09:28 AM	#21
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I aint pointing fingures but when you running a aff program you need some raid shit and some load balancing shit word

10-04-2005, 09:29 AM	#23
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10-04-2005, 09:43 AM	#30
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,382	webair is garbage. phatservers answers support emails within 5 mins. most of the staff mike has are fucking clueless. love when the mafia of webair people come to defend how great they are. all i know is i stuck up for them while mike paid for my sig, even tho the support was crap. i felt bad doing it even tho it was against my will. the best part was me getting threats froim mike cause i called his host "mediocre" after i told him to fuck off about hiring me on a monthly basis. and he knows his servers are fucked up. because he had to hire a team of security people to secure them, after i saved him time by pointing out holes. so if theirs russians/pakistanis crawling on your servers and your data gets deleted, thats probably why. but i am sure the admins dont even monitor logs. i know its hard task to tail the auth and messages and security log. but if mike would hire trained people to ipfw stupid countries. things wouldnt happen like this. anyways. you picked webair, so its your own fault. pick a real host. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-04-2005, 09:45 AM	#32
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10-04-2005, 09:46 AM	#33
newbreed Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ThatOneProgram.com Posts: 9,898	Guys I just got off the phone with Mike and explained the whole thing, he is taking care of us right now and offered to pay for it. I did not intend for the other thread to turn into a Webair bashing thread, they have never done us wrong. This is one of those things that happens and everyone handled it the best they could. __________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! \| Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! \| Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn ‎(3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

10-04-2005, 09:52 AM	#35
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	The past is a bitch. I wouldnt trust these fucks for my hosting. They fucked your traffic, they will fuck you to. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-04-2005, 09:55 AM	#36
ORLY THE OWL So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	Webair sucks. They offer relatively cheap prices in expense of quality and tech support. Their 3rd world techs don't know what the fuck they are doing. WebAir might be taking care of their big clients, but small to middle businesses encounter overall bad quality.

10-04-2005, 10:06 AM	#38
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	I'm surprised TurboAngel isn't here defending them yet.

10-04-2005, 10:06 AM	#39
AntiDrama Guest Posts: n/a	Instead of bashing a Web host, just use another if you need to... its not that tough people.

10-04-2005, 10:07 AM	#40
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	People should know exactly what the whole isearch was about. It was about FUCKING YOU. The Webmaster. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-04-2005, 10:09 AM	#41
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	put it to you like this, i would host galleries on webair, but nothing real important that might require support from time to time

10-04-2005, 10:14 AM	#43
adultchica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: usa Posts: 5,141	I just switched to webair last month. What do you mean they fuck with our traffic? And if a client that is only paying 9.95 isn't as important as your dedicated clients, then that is the wrong attitude to have. Because when that 9.95 client gets bigger and better and needs more expensive hosting or dedicated servers, you won't retain their business! I don't have any right to complain at this point, Webair has been good to me so far. __________________

10-04-2005, 10:15 AM	#44
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	I thought you were going to post more examples. One example isn't exactly "scared people" I have hosted with almost every host on the gfy block, and i have to say webair has never let me down yet. BUT i haven't had any problem with them in 2 years, so i haven't needed support for much. I have had much better support from other host's , but then again i only recieved "great support" because the sites had problems , so its hard t compare against webair who i haven't had any problems with thus not needing support. I would rather be up with no support than down with great support __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-04-2005, 10:21 AM	#46
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10-04-2005, 10:28 AM	#49
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	I host with webair.com since 2001 or 2002 and I've never had a big problem with them. If something bad ever happens (knocks on wood) I'll talk to Mike and bring it to GFY if needed. I always post good comments about them and I wouldn't be afraid to post a negative one.