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boner 2.0 · 10-18-2005, 01:50 PM

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Mr-No · 10-18-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy

Nice shot! I love those Hungarian babes!

Cheers

Hehehe! Thanks Max!
(You don't recognize girl from the pic? Yes, I shoot only in Budapest, because I'm too lazy to move, but girl from pic is Czech...)

One more time, Thanks

Paul Markham · 10-23-2005, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-No

That you said, I sold this set 20 years ago, I would say, yeah that is it... But you still shoot like 20 years ago, no difference... Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that "today's" market is very different than market 20 years ago...

Thank you for the compliments.

Teens is strongest with the 40 to 50 year old readers. So maybe that's why we do so well at it.

Paul Markham · 10-23-2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-No

Thanks man! I'm happy to hear that you see something which Paul can't see...

Sorry mate but I was judging you as magazine editors will judge the set. The biggest problem is the girl, she's cute but not teen. She does not look like a stunner and the set does not look good enough for main stream magazines. so maybe it would get into the amateur type mags. well go and try and see how hard it is to sell to them.

Magazines reject over 90% of the content sent, well in truth 80% is not even looked at. They get flooded with sets and pick out the best. This is simply due to the money they pay a good boy-girl set will return $5,000 easily and $10,000 is very possible.

To compete in that sector you need to be on the top of your game.

Paul Markham · 10-23-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I am not sure what is better at this point exclusive shoots or none exclusive, so I will do both till I am sure.

Nice girl and cute teen. Next time get her to open her lips slightly, it improves the look.

Exclusive v non exclusive?

Depends how good you are at shooting to please the surfer and marketing. Exclusive solo girl sets+videos sell for $300 to $400 a time. non excluive 10 times at $50 will return $500. Not hard to sell a good set+video 10 times, in fact good will sell 20 times.

Paul Markham · 10-23-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NickJ

I got out of the exclusive game a long time ago. If I don't make a grand at least per shoot then what a waste of time and finding buyers of exclusive for that price is not so easy or never has been..

Now I sell DVDs from big name producers for $79.00, $69.00 and even $59.00 each and everybody is happy. Me, the producer and the webmasters. I think that exclusives should get more expensive in the future as the number of guys who can do them will be less..

For now my deal with the http://www.contentpalace.com site is going great. I could not be happier.

I'm out of it as well.

I went to the Amsterdam show with the intentions of picking up some exclusive deals that our two assistants could shoot. but they want me and Eva to shoot it at prices that we will not work for.

I got the over all impression that sponsors want top quality at bargain basement prices.

One of the arguments put to me was that on their present traffic, conversion and retention they could not afford us. I took a look at their site and if they think our content will perform as well as what they are buying they're in the wrong business.

Private are top of the video market, Score top of the big tit game and Barely Legal top of the teens market. All are top payers for cotnet, do you see a link? Swimming at the bottom of the barrel is crowded and tough.

4My · 10-23-2005, 11:54 PM

so if you guy have tip to give to someone starting making shoot.

wtf we need do, try save any pennies and do it cheap as hell
or live large and making the more professional we can

i just cant get something out of it how come i have friend who model get pay avrage 400$- 500$ (cdn) to photoshot when u say u cant realy sell exclusive shoot over something like 300$ whitout even take in consideration the staff and the guy who gonna psd it at the end

just wondering ???

Peace · 10-24-2005, 01:56 AM

wow this topic is still up. Guys i shoot eclcusive content becuase it pays either the whole day or most of it when someone orders..Also I am getting 50% at least..Right so i have no risk..If customer can not pay the balance i keep content. Also shoot some extra sets to sell non exclusive and use for my sites. But I agree exclusive content is cheap..Perfect10 paid me 6k per shoot..US mags 2000-3000, and adult webmasters 750 for 5 sets...Lol....Big difference...

Paul Markham · 10-24-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 4My

so if you guy have tip to give to someone starting making shoot.

wtf we need do, try save any pennies and do it cheap as hell
or live large and making the more professional we can

i just cant get something out of it how come i have friend who model get pay avrage 400$- 500$ (cdn) to photoshot when u say u cant realy sell exclusive shoot over something like 300$ whitout even take in consideration the staff and the guy who gonna psd it at the end

just wondering ???

Think about it from the surfers POV. 1,000s and 1,000s of sites all claiming to have what he needs.

The guy spending $30 a month is no newbie to porn, he's bought it before or viewing it for years. He knows what works for him.

He hits loads of sites put up in the hope of converting on the basis of build the traffic to get the members. He then he hits a site put up by someone who knows and cares about his niche and maybe even loves it as much as he does.

Which one do you think he spends his money on?

Our success is not based on me and Eva shooting as if it's a race or to get it in at a price, we both love and enjoy what we shoot. We don't shoot on the basis of getting it done for a price, we send the girl home if she's wrong, we dump bad content into Bargain Basement. We take pride in what we do.

Peace
Yes it still up and a lot of interesting info has come out. The way you shoot makes sense, the client pays the costs and you get to keep some for yourself.

But the original question has rarely really been answered.

If non exclusive content is saturated why are guys shooting it for so little? Would seem if non exclusive was saturated there is little gamble in shooting and selling a set that needs to sell 5-6 times to return more money than what is being offered for exclusive by many.

I knew the answer when I started the thread.

Non exclusive is not saturated. It's a myth built by people who bought blow outs and deals on old crap. Because if non exclusive was saturated the exclusive shooters would not be giving it away.

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Peace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY and Moscow Posts: 5,519	wow this topic is still up. Guys i shoot eclcusive content becuase it pays either the whole day or most of it when someone orders..Also I am getting 50% at least..Right so i have no risk..If customer can not pay the balance i keep content. Also shoot some extra sets to sell non exclusive and use for my sites. But I agree exclusive content is cheap..Perfect10 paid me 6k per shoot..US mags 2000-3000, and adult webmasters 750 for 5 sets...Lol....Big difference... __________________ Need Custom or Licensed Content? Visit PhotoVideoContent.com Email: [email protected] / Telegram: @romatibet / Skype: Peace888

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4My Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: CANADA-QC Posts: 173	so if you guy have tip to give to someone starting making shoot. wtf we need do, try save any pennies and do it cheap as hell or live large and making the more professional we can i just cant get something out of it how come i have friend who model get pay avrage 400$- 500$ (cdn) to photoshot when u say u cant realy sell exclusive shoot over something like 300$ whitout even take in consideration the staff and the guy who gonna psd it at the end just wondering ???