Google Adwords just plain sucks now... - GoFuckYourself.com

V_RocKs · 09-28-2005, 06:43 PM

I used to have a keyword I paid 5 cents a click for...

It got clicked about 50 times a day...

It sold a product twice daily for $40 total payout.

I made $37.50 everyday...

No one else targeted the keyword... ever...

Then one day Google says the keyword is deactivated, either increase its production or pay 20 cents per click for it.

It already got 20% CTR! Which is about the .5% or whatever their threshold is...

Now I pay $10 a day for the same fucking keyword... Which means I will overpay $2737.50 a year for something that was costing me $912.50 a year...

Googles new rules are a fucking sham... How can I have to pay 20 cents for a fucking word that has NO competition?

IPO was bad news... Google is for the birds now..

Tat2Jr · 09-28-2005, 06:54 PM

I think you're missing the point..... you're still paying for it! Capitalism at it's best. Too bad it happened to you though.

$5 submissions · 09-28-2005, 08:14 PM

It's great for ADSENSE webmasters though. I love those sweet $1+ per click keywords

bdld · 09-28-2005, 08:57 PM

if you do high volume you can ask them specifically about it and get an explanation.

blackfeet · 09-28-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

It's great for ADSENSE webmasters though. I love those sweet $1+ per click keywords

i was shocked to see one adsense ad i clicked got me over $2.
i click all of the links on my computers at home, friends and family.
i can make a couple of hundred a month for just a few minutes work each day.

adultguus · 09-28-2005, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld

if you do high volume you can ask them specifically about it and get an explanation.

I don't think they consider 50 clicks a day high volume

butterflybucks · 09-28-2005, 11:36 PM

Yeah, I was reall pissed when I noticed al my keywords jumped to .20 and .30 cents. I think this might be a way google is trying to stop porn.

phonesex · 09-28-2005, 11:39 PM

what was that keyword again?

studiocritic · 09-28-2005, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfeet

i was shocked to see one adsense ad i clicked got me over $2.
i click all of the links on my computers at home, friends and family.
i can make a couple of hundred a month for just a few minutes work each day.

You know Google has one of the most advanced fraud detection programs in the industry, right? At the simplest, they log all the IPs that you use to log into the AdSense management interface, and compare that against clicks.

If you haven't been caught yet, you haven't been doing this (clickfrauding) for very long.

All of the big revenues at Google come from AdWords advertisers. The content network (personal AdSense publishers) represent <10% of the overall impressions that Google's AdWords ads receive. They'll defend the [apparent] integrity of their advertisers' confidence in their program at any cost.

hjnet · 09-28-2005, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by phonesex

what was that keyword again?

"pink widget porn"

toddler · 09-28-2005, 11:58 PM

google logs everything. don't think that they don't

johnnyhey · 09-29-2005, 12:00 AM

i clicked on an adword today and the link wouldn't work. (it was trying to reach a google address though)

i'd sure be pissed as fuck if that was my link.

BIGTYMER · 09-29-2005, 12:03 AM

I've really had to focus/monitor my keywords lately now that I'm paying 0.20-30 a click.

V_RocKs · 09-29-2005, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

At this moment I am actually upping all my keywords for a mainstream project. One word has NO competition and I've already upped it to $0.20 now I have to take it to $0.40!

Exactly.... I just logged into my account and had to up something that was .10 to .30 to get them to show it.. sucks because I make sells and I am still making money but my overhead just tripled in price.. WTF???

cool1g · 09-29-2005, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfeet

i was shocked to see one adsense ad i clicked got me over $2.
i click all of the links on my computers at home, friends and family.
i can make a couple of hundred a month for just a few minutes work each day.

nice - thanks for defrauding google and all of us that buy traffic from google.

grumpy · 09-29-2005, 02:22 AM

despite the higher price, you are still making money. So whats the problem.

Ace-wtf · 09-29-2005, 02:37 AM

contact them

there is problably a rep you can talk to

xxxmaster · 09-29-2005, 04:15 AM

im in the same boat your are..... Google has more than tripled my overhead now. and on top of that i was told by a sponsor that will remain nameless for now, that i can no longer use ad words to promote thier program. what b.s huh, i was sending at least 10 joins a day using ad words now i dont push that sponsor at all.

chaze · 09-29-2005, 04:23 AM

Adsence killed adwords, I mean everyone cheats adsence and it is what makes adwords so expensive now.

But Google don't give a flying lizard about it.

If not friends and family it's emails saying click this here and I will email you a blah blah. Or click this add to enter the members area.

You name it, it's being done.

The only way is to start a coalition. Revolt!!!

Joe Citizen · 09-29-2005, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfeet

i was shocked to see one adsense ad i clicked got me over $2.
i click all of the links on my computers at home, friends and family.
i can make a couple of hundred a month for just a few minutes work each day.

It's only a matter of time until Google nails you.

Pete-KT · 09-29-2005, 04:45 AM

you have to know how to use it

WiredGuy · 09-29-2005, 06:08 AM

You are still paying it though right? Welcome to the largest competitor increasing their prices

WG

Rui · 09-29-2005, 06:14 AM

The amount of Adsense cheating nowadays is totally out of hand...I hope Google do put a stop to it real soon...

MrPinks · 09-29-2005, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxmaster

im in the same boat your are..... Google has more than tripled my overhead now. and on top of that i was told by a sponsor that will remain nameless for now, that i can no longer use ad words to promote thier program. what b.s huh, i was sending at least 10 joins a day using ad words now i dont push that sponsor at all.

What sponsor told you that? Spill it man. That is bs on their part.

$5 submissions · 09-29-2005, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfeet

i was shocked to see one adsense ad i clicked got me over $2.
i click all of the links on my computers at home, friends and family.
i can make a couple of hundred a month for just a few minutes work each day.

COMEDY GOLD.

Theo · 09-29-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxmaster

im in the same boat your are..... Google has more than tripled my overhead now. and on top of that i was told by a sponsor that will remain nameless for now, that i can no longer use ad words to promote thier program. what b.s huh, i was sending at least 10 joins a day using ad words now i dont push that sponsor at all.

in mainstream world this is common practise

$5 submissions · 09-29-2005, 11:15 AM

Thank goodness there's other sources of mainstream traffic. Free ones, too

body · 09-29-2005, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxmaster

im in the same boat your are..... Google has more than tripled my overhead now. and on top of that i was told by a sponsor that will remain nameless for now, that i can no longer use ad words to promote thier program. what b.s huh, i was sending at least 10 joins a day using ad words now i dont push that sponsor at all.

Check my sig!! We allow adword hehehe

Kevsh · 09-29-2005, 02:08 PM

Google's system is quite complicated and can be frustrating. By the key to getting your CPC as low as possible is to maximum Click-throughs. For ads that get a very high % of CTs the cost per click will drop and your exposure (ranking) will increase.

I struggled for months until their reps finally gave me a very good explanation how things work. Basically, bid as much as you can afford to get the top spots and keep tweaking until you get a very high CTR (of course, this depends on the keyword). Then you will "own" the top spot and you'll see your CPC drop. I have several keywords at 40%+ CTR and virtually own the very top placement - in blue above the search results.

It's not fair, it's not easy and it is frustrating but if you do things right it should work for you.

Dollarmansteve · 09-29-2005, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfeet

i was shocked to see one adsense ad i clicked got me over $2.
i click all of the links on my computers at home, friends and family.
i can make a couple of hundred a month for just a few minutes work each day.

You know you can also make money the following ways:

1. Stealing purses from elderly women
2. Identity theft
3. Forgery
4. Counterfeiting
5. Going door-to-door collecting money for fake charities.

Since you seem so keen on illegal, fraudulent means of making money, you should definitely consider becoming a full-time criminal.

'tard

FIX01 · 09-29-2005, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

You know you can also make money the following ways:
.

Since you seem so keen on illegal, fraudulent means of making money, you should definitely consider becoming a full-time criminal.

'tard

LOL. Right. and dollarmachine doesn't make money on millions of illegal spam mails sent out every day.

09-28-2005, 06:43 PM	#1
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Google Adwords just plain sucks now... I used to have a keyword I paid 5 cents a click for... It got clicked about 50 times a day... It sold a product twice daily for $40 total payout. I made $37.50 everyday... No one else targeted the keyword... ever... Then one day Google says the keyword is deactivated, either increase its production or pay 20 cents per click for it. It already got 20% CTR! Which is about the .5% or whatever their threshold is... Now I pay $10 a day for the same fucking keyword... Which means I will overpay $2737.50 a year for something that was costing me $912.50 a year... Googles new rules are a fucking sham... How can I have to pay 20 cents for a fucking word that has NO competition? IPO was bad news... Google is for the birds now.. Last edited by V_RocKs; 09-28-2005 at 06:44 PM..

09-28-2005, 06:54 PM	#2
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xxxmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hard Link Trades Always Wanted Icq: 319323350 Posts: 1,155	im in the same boat your are..... Google has more than tripled my overhead now. and on top of that i was told by a sponsor that will remain nameless for now, that i can no longer use ad words to promote thier program. what b.s huh, i was sending at least 10 joins a day using ad words now i dont push that sponsor at all.

09-29-2005, 04:23 AM	#19
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Adsence killed adwords, I mean everyone cheats adsence and it is what makes adwords so expensive now. But Google don't give a flying lizard about it. If not friends and family it's emails saying click this here and I will email you a blah blah. Or click this add to enter the members area. You name it, it's being done. The only way is to start a coalition. Revolt!!!

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Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	The amount of Adsense cheating nowadays is totally out of hand...I hope Google do put a stop to it real soon...

09-29-2005, 11:15 AM	#27
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Thank goodness there's other sources of mainstream traffic. Free ones, too __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

09-29-2005, 02:08 PM	#29
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Google's system is quite complicated and can be frustrating. By the key to getting your CPC as low as possible is to maximum Click-throughs. For ads that get a very high % of CTs the cost per click will drop and your exposure (ranking) will increase. I struggled for months until their reps finally gave me a very good explanation how things work. Basically, bid as much as you can afford to get the top spots and keep tweaking until you get a very high CTR (of course, this depends on the keyword). Then you will "own" the top spot and you'll see your CPC drop. I have several keywords at 40%+ CTR and virtually own the very top placement - in blue above the search results. It's not fair, it's not easy and it is frustrating but if you do things right it should work for you.