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Old 02-21-2002, 07:30 PM   #1
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how important is a warning page?

Next week I am going to have a shitload of traffic hit my site, unfortunately it's all going to hit my fucking warning page which means I'll probably lose a lot of surfers.

I'd like to remove the warning page and just have the site but dont know what the penalty is for not having a warning page.
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Old 02-21-2002, 07:33 PM   #2
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Warning pages have never been tested in court, so as to how important they are to covering your ass no one knows.

If nothing else they're extra real estate for advertising
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Old 02-21-2002, 07:33 PM   #3
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How important is a "Ladies Sign" on a bathroom.

Sure you should have one, but if i guy walks in on accident...no-ones gonna call the cops.
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Old 02-21-2002, 07:34 PM   #4
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If nothing else they're extra real estate for advertising
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and a whole load easier to optimize for search engines than your main page
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From what I've read in legal corners on ynot and other webmaster resource pages is that it shows an act of good faith that you were attempting to protect minors from adult related materials.

And that's about all it would be good for if you were brought up on obscenity charges.

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Old 02-21-2002, 07:45 PM   #7
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I like to throw a warning on the main page right under a full anal shot....
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Old 02-21-2002, 07:48 PM   #8
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has anyone gotten fuct for not having a warning page?
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Old 02-21-2002, 07:53 PM   #9
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From what I understand, they can't protect you from anything. It's like someone already said, it's more of a good faith thing than anyone else.

I personally think it'd be easier to slam someone with an obscenity charge if their full blown hardcore site was right there at the root of the directory, than if they at least had a page with a warning on it so people who didn't want to be there (hahaha, who goes to www.fuckmeintheass.com if they're not looking for porn really?) can have the chance to back out.

Just my opinion though. ;) Ask a lawyer, but I don't think warning pages legally do anything to protect you.
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I think if your domain is questionable... you should probly have one... if your domain is hotanalmanlovin.com.... is there really a need? Come on.... nobodys going to that place by mistake.
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Old 02-21-2002, 08:13 PM   #11
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How many people change there warning for each different site, or just cut and paste it from one site to the next ?

would the SE's take notice of

A) 1. I certify that I am over 18 years of age and it is legal for me to view this material.

or

B) 1. I certify that I am over 18 years of age and it is legal for me to view pics, videos and movies of a barely legal teen having uncensored anal sex.

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Old 02-21-2002, 08:18 PM   #12
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B) 1. <snip> pics, videos and movies of a barely legal teen having uncensored anal sex.

that is a really good idea
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...it shows an act of good faith that you were attempting to protect minors from adult related materials.
Not only this, but it also acts as a great filter for your site's own traffic. Put up a small amount of advertising for your sponsors on that page to peel off those surfers interested in that, and let the ones that want to actually see your site click "enter". Hell, I even have a pay link on my exit/leave button, to a non-adult sponsor that makes me a few cents per click.

But a warning page does much more. Because there is usually only a title, a few banners and some text, it will save you money on bandwidth in the long run because it will likely be much less in size than your main page would be.

And as someone mentioned, it can be optimized for search engines to the hilt, with keywords and even hidden text if you're into that. I too used to wonder about having a warning page, but not anymore, I think it's good business all the way around. And if your free site is strictly softcore stuff, keeping all the tempting hardcore stuff for sponsor's banners etc, you should have no problems with the morality watchdogs out there.
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How important is a "Ladies Sign" on a bathroom.

Sure you should have one, but if i guy walks in on accident...no-ones gonna call the cops.
Good point
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a warning page is a good place to put ADS WHICH MAKE YOU MONEY ;))

if you can dump the surfer to a sponsor before he enters your site, why not?? It's more money made and less money spent...hell, the less number of surfer hitting your content, the better...
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a warning page is a good place to put ADS WHICH MAKE YOU MONEY ;))

if you can dump the surfer to a sponsor before he enters your site, why not?? It's more money made and less money spent...hell, the less number of surfer hitting your content, the better...


99.99999999 % hit the enter link
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99.99999999 % hit the enter link
Can't speak for anyone else, but that's far from accurate on my sites.
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On first visit I mean, unless of course you have porn banners plattered all over the warning page, depends if you want them inside or not, personally I want them past the warning page and under control of my page flow or tour.
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That's true. It does depend what kind of site it is.

I was talking about my freesites. I want them gone as soon as possible so I have a fair amount of advertising (softcore) on the warning page.
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On first visit I mean, unless of course you have porn banners plattered all over the warning page, depends if you want them inside or not, personally I want them past the warning page and under control of my page flow or tour.
well, you're talking about paysites....I (and I assume Clay too) am talking about freesites, which are different...

I used to get a good 10-12% of my surfers gone before they hit the enter link and the conversions were much better...
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8. For totally free sex and porn pics or pictures, I accept that i will not be charged.Looking at this porn and sex sofcore and hardcore pictures is totally free.
9. I accept that i will see free pictures in galleries including amateurs, anime, anal, asian, bbw, black, breasts, cams, celebs, ethnic, extreme, fetish, foot fetish, hardcore, lesbian, links, mature, pissing, preggo, teens, toys, voyeur, upskirt, xxx stories, free porn movies and sexually oriented audio porn sounds.
10) I accept that I will not fuck any models in this page.
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Man i love my warning pages...
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8. For totally free sex and porn pics or pictures, I accept that i will not be charged.Looking at this porn and sex sofcore and hardcore pictures is totally free.
9. I accept that i will see free pictures in galleries including amateurs, anime, anal, asian, bbw, black, breasts, cams, celebs, ethnic, extreme, fetish, foot fetish, hardcore, lesbian, links, mature, pissing, preggo, teens, toys, voyeur, upskirt, xxx stories, free porn movies and sexually oriented audio porn sounds.
10) I accept that I will not fuck any models in this page.
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Man i love my warning pages...
You need to add #11

11)I accept that I am one big no credit card holding digging for change out of the couch to pay for bills free loading bandwidth eating masturbating until sores erupt on my cock lying on the couch watching truck driving commercials dreaming of a day I can leave the trailer park fat slovenly fuck.

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Not only do you have to have a warning page.....

(1) DEFENSE.---It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that the defendant has restricted access by minors to material that is harmful to minors by requiring use of a credit card. debit account, adult access code, or adult personal identification number

It has to be password protected.
The laws are in place they just have not yet started putting people in jail yet. As soon as the terror bullshit dies down, they will start .

Read the child protection act people. Its real and its comeing for us.
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Read the child protection act people. Its real and its comeing for us.
Dude COPA was struck down in 1999.
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Are you sure?
I thought they just now re-did it
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OK, 2001.
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OK, 2001.
I stand corrected
In late February, 2001, the Department of Justice filed a petition for certiorari asking the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse the decision of the Third Circuit. In April EPIC joined with the ACLU and EFF in a brief opposing certiorari that asked the U.S. Supreme Court not to disturb the decision of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Child Online Protection Act to be unconstitutional.


They filed a petition to reverse the decision...and the ACLU filed a brief asking them to not disturb the decision.

Nothing has happened yet...we're all keeping our fingers crossed.
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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not, but another thing an entry page does is help filter out crap traffic.

If you are being sent a ton of blind or exit traffic, or even low quality traffic and they are hit with an entry/warning pagethey will think before clicking. Some will leave, and some will enter.

Those that leave... fuck 'em.
Those that stay, and enter, are surfers looking for porn, and thus are better quality. They like to click links.

I bought traffic, and the quality was actually lower than I had expected. I ran the traffic thru an entry page, and the quality almost tripled. The uniques were lower, (since it filtered out the crap) but those that did enter really helped boost some trades.

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It's so good to be Dutch....or have servers in The Netherlands...
No fucking hassle no touch laws just don't CP or copyright
violate....and don't worry....Oh yeah and ask any cop whereis
the closest coffeeshop so you can buy pot to smoke joints in
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Dyna how much is the living and DSL connection in Spain?
I wanna follow
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Dyna how much is the living and DSL connection in Spain?
I wanna follow
I might well be moving there from the UK soon - any info would be much appreciated. from what I can remember from holidays about ten years back, its pretty cheap...

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Hi again,

Yes Spain is cheap! Ok here some Spain promotion.
I live 35 Km south of Alicante which is in the south east of Spain.
I moved down in October last year but have lived close to Barcelone before where I worked as a sysadmin/developer
for private.com.

Well for now I have rental house so I can take my time to find
a really nice spot to buy in this area. I have a detached house
with front and back garden, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms and a nice
big swimming pool. The house is brand new I pay: 500 dollars per month for it.

Tax don't work in this country. You can negotiate about it like
with buying a second hand car. No control, no means of checking,
etc, etc. As long as you pay some everybody is happy.

Opening a bank account takes 10 minutes and a passport. You sign a paper that you're a foreigner which means you don't have
to pay tax in Spain and you walk out with a bank account.
No one has access to it so you can put in the account whatever
you like. No information will be given to anyone,

Buying a house can be done very easy for foreigners even with a mortgage. You can get 70% of the value of the house on paper.
This value is higher than the market price so buying is very easy.
It's very common to pay half the house with cash (from the morgage) and the other half on paper. The Notary will step out
the office for a minute so you can settle the deal and he doesn't know abou it.......don't you love this?

Okay I live 2 miles from the beach, a beer in a bar will cost you less then a dollar, a good 3 course diner in fancy restaurant for
2 persons 40 dollars. Within a 20 mile radious I have 14 excellent
golf courses, 3 of them are used in the eurpoean tour and the one closest to my house is voted best golf course in Spain.

Pot is still illegal here however can be bought everywhere. Since
we're very close to marroco no problems here. If you get caught
smoking you have to put out the joint and that's all. No arrest
or other bullshit.

Smartshops and growshops just became legal so within a year coffeeshops will be legal to. When it comes to porn. Private didn't move here without a reason. It's very liberal, same rules as we have in Holland, NO CP and that's it legal age for porn models is
18.

No rules for setting up a business, you don't need any papers to for example to open a bar, just a passport will do. We rented a bar and built our office in since that was cheaper to rent an
office and built a bar in :D

I have a ADLS connection in my house 512Kbit/sec cost me 50 dollars per month I have 2Mbit ADSL in my office which cost me
140 dollars per month. It can take 2 months before you'll finally get it but once in place it works really well, no downtime.

Since Spain is at least 5 year behind with internet the BIG boom
still needs to come. Not too many spannish people have internet
in their houses so even with the ADSL no congestion.

Okay that's about it. All you need is a bit patience, lots of stuff
takes ages, don't make appointments people will not show up
Shops when they open at 9.00 it means when we are awake.
They might open at 11.00 without notice so just go with the flow.

The upside with that is that the government works the same and you don't have to worry that they will come to take your money
because they know you earned a lot and they want tax from it.

They understand that Spains economy is based on tourism and
foreigners that want to live here. The foreigners buy spannish
stuff, eat in spannish restaurants, buy spannish houses so they
are quite happy with that.

You just have to learn the language coz spannish don't speak english......or at least most of them don't.

So be welcome pornographers we're already down here with quite a few so get your ass down here and enjoy!

The North is a bit better organised so don't go there. This is right
place environment and climate is very similar to California.

For people who want to buy a villa:

8000 square meter plot with private pool, 250 square meter build, 5 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 2 kitchens, garage for 2 cars
fully equiped will cost you approx: 250.000 dollars

Let me know when you come down and we'll party!

DynaMite :D

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Damn that's a long post....sorry for that I got enthousiastic!

Bottle of wine......1 dollar.....good wine too :D

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Old 02-22-2002, 06:00 AM   #38
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Dyna thanks for the info.

How about decent rental apartments?
I mean more info.. how you get them etc.
any websites? or do you just walk into some office with money in your pocket?

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Old 02-22-2002, 06:17 AM   #39
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Hi again,

Mine is rental too, 500 dollars per month....for something decent
that's a good price. I found mine through the net. If you want
to come down and live in this area drop me a mail at [email protected] I can hook you up with some people
who have long term rental places otherwise just look on the net.


Good Luck!

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Old 02-22-2002, 08:18 PM   #40
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Okay, I'm sold.

Anybody know about quarantine regulations regarding importing domestic animals (cats & dogs) from the US to Spain?

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Old 02-22-2002, 08:28 PM   #41
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99.99999999 % hit the enter link

Bullshit.

Remember this, the best free site ever built has never had a visitor make it to the second page



As for the original question, it might help if you elaborate on exactly what kind of site you have, it will probably make a difference as to whether or not you should have one.
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