bush admits the government fucked up

[TDF]

not suprising our country wasnt prepared for any type of emergency plan for any type of emergency..FEMA is useless

[SetTheWorldonFire]

too dam guilty

[lchaim]

I was in complete shock when I saw him say that on the tube.

But really, I guess, what does he care, it's his last few years, he's not going anywhere.

:/

[TDF]

Originally Posted by lchaim

I was in complete shock when I saw him say that on the tube.

But really, I guess, what does he care, it's his last few years, he's not going anywhere.

:/

exactllyy..things will be even more fucked up when he leaves the office.On the bright side chaney and his buddies will make a killing off rebuilding NO with the companies he has his hands in

[GigoloJustin]

Your sig makes me hot...


I love the Soul Cash guys!

[OG LennyT]

Too bad the FEMA director got to 'resign' and will live comfortably on our tax dollars for the rest of his life. There should be accountability in high offices in the Govt.

not all his fault though

[lchaim]

Originally Posted by TDF

exactllyy..things will be even more fucked up when he leaves the office.On the bright side chaney and his buddies will make a killing off rebuilding NO with the companies he has his hands in

Hell yeh, it was a monster fuckup on sooooo many levels, local and federal.

Did you see that Bill Maher show the other night, where he goes to mention all the shit we've lost during George's terms? Was a riot, went something along the lines of "We've lost almost all of our allies, 4 airlines, the surplus, 2 trade centers, and the city of New Orleans.....maybe you're just not LUCKY!"

Man that shit was sad and funny at the same time.
Might still be here:
http://www.execulink.com/~chrismccoy/newrules.wmv



And yes, the rebuilding of NO is a contractor's 'wet' dream (pardon the pun). Hopefully a lot of locals get in on that action, would be good for their economy to help shit get moving again.

But the chances of that happening are, well, probably not so good.

[TDF]

Originally Posted by GigoloJustin

Your sig makes me hot...


I love the Soul Cash guys!

jesus loves you..and so does SOULCASH!

[EroticySteve]

The bright side of the whole N.O. tragedy is that a lot of people now have expensive luxury items such as Loui Vuitton that they may have never had if it weren't for those generous $2000 Debit Cards.

[Machete_]

True. Rebuilding of NO should ONLY be done by Local people, when they run out of local people, THEN they can hire from the outside

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by dvd316

Too bad the FEMA director got to 'resign' and will live comfortably on our tax dollars for the rest of his life. There should be accountability in high offices in the Govt.

not all his fault though

And how will he live comfortably on tax dollars for the rest of his life? As far as I know he would fall under civil service rules which require a minimum number of years of service, which he does not have, in order to qualify.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

True. Rebuilding of NO should ONLY be done by Local people, when they run out of local people, THEN they can hire from the outside

I agree 100% but sadly, it probably won't happen that way...

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

And how will he live comfortably on tax dollars for the rest of his life? As far as I know he would fall under civil service rules which require a minimum number of years of service, which he does not have, in order to qualify.

probably a ' golden parachute " ....

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by George W. Bush

We fucked up...

[Mr. Soul]

FEMA isn't useless, they're just not designed to help people. They're basically there in case the government ever needs to take over the US population militarily. That's why it's full of right wing security goons instead of humanitarian workers. They did a great job going in with troops and rounding up all the "looters", and they did a great job confiscating people's legally owned guns, they just aren't meant to give out food and save people. This is why Bush originally said to Nancy Poleski that FEMA did exactly what they were supposed to. If the poor blacks start to get all uppity FEMA will have them in concentration camps in a matter of hours.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

FEMA isn't useless, they're just not designed to help people. They're basically there in case the government ever needs to take over the US population militarily. That's why it's full of right wing security goons instead of humanitarian workers. They did a great job going in with troops and rounding up all the "looters", and they did a great job confiscating people's legally owned guns, they just aren't meant to give out food and save people. This is why Bush originally said to Nancy Poleski that FEMA did exactly what they were supposed to. If the poor blacks start to get all uppity FEMA will have them in concentration camps in a matter of hours.

good point, I think what "fucked up" there was those that were put in charge were actually campaign supports and helpers for Bush. They had no experience and were flying blind. Bush knew that and did the right thing.

In addition from what I see and hear everyone including the mayor fucked up. Bush I have to give credit for taking responsibility though I am curious as to why so many millionaires are putting up huge chunks of cash - but you dont hear Bush or Cheney throwing any $$ towards the relief effort.

Overall, I am tired of the blame game and simply lets get on with helping these people and worry about who to point fingers at, because in all honestly - everyone in administration including the percentage of the police force who never showed up that day for work are to blame.

[fl_prn_str]

Originally Posted by TDF

jesus loves you..and so does SOULCASH!

[Hollywood Horwitz]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

I agree 100% but sadly, it probably won't happen that way...

theres no way it will happen that way,its a great plan but way too optimistic..

[Hollywood Horwitz]

its about time he admits something was his fault..

[Tat2Jr]

I'm just SHOCKED they couldn't somehow spin this as Clinton's Fault. Give 'em a week or two.... they'll figure out how to do it. Any of you guys that like to suckle on W's hairy balls wanna help out?

[spanky part 2]

So what is going to be the new republican talking point now that "the blame game" is useless.

Seems like we are gonna hear a lot of shit eating now.

If he would just come out and say that about Iraq now, I might actually start to like this guy.

[bopha]

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr

I'm just SHOCKED they couldn't somehow spin this as Clinton's Fault. Give 'em a week or two.... they'll figure out how to do it. Any of you guys that like to suckle on W's hairy balls wanna help out?

What he said.

[sperbonzo]

I wonder if you will hear from the mayor that didn't bother to evacuate his city, the Parish leaders that didn't use the federal levy money to fix the levys, or the Govenor that failed to ask for federal support, admit any blame.

I doubt it..... they're democrats.

Instead of the Mayor carrying out the manditory evacuation plan and get the poor people out with city buses, he did NOTHING, then blamed it all on the Feds/Bush.
I wonder why people aren't accusing him of hating blacks and the poor? He left them there to die in the first place.

....and of the federal money sent to fix the levys 3 years ago, only 35% was used. Of that 35% that was used, it WASN'T even used on the levys, it was used on a fountain and the convention center.

And the governor, who must BY LAW formally invite the federal government to come in, waited for a couple of days to do so, I guess SHE must hate the blacks and the poor also.

[spanky part 2]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I wonder if you will hear from the mayor that didn't bother to evacuate his city, the Parish leaders that didn't use the federal levy money to fix the levys, or the Govenor that failed to ask for federal support, admit any blame.

I doubt it..... they're democrats.

Instead of the Mayor carrying out the manditory evacuation plan and get the poor people out with city buses, he did NOTHING, then blamed it all on the Feds/Bush.
I wonder why people aren't accusing him of hating blacks and the poor? He left them there to die in the first place.

....and of the federal money sent to fix the levys 3 years ago, only 35% was used. Of that 35% that was used, it WASN'T even used on the levys, it was used on a fountain and the convention center.

And the governor, who must BY LAW formally invite the federal government to come in, waited for a couple of days to do so, I guess SHE must hate the blacks and the poor also.

Dude, let it go. Your "great leader' fucked up and he had sack enough to admit it for once. Lick your wounds and go away and cry.

Don't keep on with the republican drivel. This is something you can't blame on the dems for once. In case you didn't know, both the govs from Al. and Mississippi are republicans. How ya gonna blame the dems for that?

[LittleMack]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I wonder if you will hear from the mayor that didn't bother to evacuate his city, the Parish leaders that didn't use the federal levy money to fix the levys, or the Govenor that failed to ask for federal support, admit any blame.

I doubt it..... they're democrats.

Instead of the Mayor carrying out the manditory evacuation plan and get the poor people out with city buses, he did NOTHING, then blamed it all on the Feds/Bush.
I wonder why people aren't accusing him of hating blacks and the poor? He left them there to die in the first place.

....and of the federal money sent to fix the levys 3 years ago, only 35% was used. Of that 35% that was used, it WASN'T even used on the levys, it was used on a fountain and the convention center.

And the governor, who must BY LAW formally invite the federal government to come in, waited for a couple of days to do so, I guess SHE must hate the blacks and the poor also.

I agree, I am not Bush fan but it all starts at the local/state level per how our government is set up. It all falls on the smaller level first then federal level. I am glad Bush took blame for the Federal response but there also needs to be something done from the local and state government. It all starts there then federal kicks in.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

Dude, let it go. Your "great leader' fucked up and he had sack enough to admit it for once. Lick your wounds and go away and cry.

Don't keep on with the republican drivel. This is something you can't blame on the dems for once. In case you didn't know, both the govs from Al. and Mississippi are republicans. How ya gonna blame the dems for that?

I live in Miami. I've been through Hurricanes.

Plenty of them.

The Feds NEVER show up for days and days. EVERYTHING happens on the local level. The city and state take care of things, not the Feds.

The Governors from AL and MS were not on TV screaming that it was all the Feds fault and that bush hates blacks. They were getting on with doing what the state is supposed to do.

The only drivel is from people that didn't even pay enough attention in school to know how their own government works. Read the constitution some time. I would recomend starting with the 10th amendment, then do some searchs on states rights.

[EscortBiz]

its nice that he agrees that there was a problem, at least now it can be fixed if this happens in the future

[LittleMack]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

its nice that he agrees that there was a problem, at least now it can be fixed if this happens in the future

Agree, hope this taught everyone a lesson. I live in Florida and when Charley hit last year, there was supplies flown and trucked into the local airport a couple of days afterwards. I watched it and it is a major undertaking. I hope we can have some sort of staging areas pre-done for future hurricanes in prone areas.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I live in Miami. I've been through Hurricanes.

Plenty of them.

The Feds NEVER show up for days and days. EVERYTHING happens on the local level. The city and state take care of things, not the Feds.

The Governors from AL and MS were not on TV screaming that it was all the Feds fault and that bush hates blacks. They were getting on with doing what the state is supposed to do.

The only drivel is from people that didn't even pay enough attention in school to know how their own government works. Read the constitution some time. I would recomend starting with the 10th amendment, then do some searchs on states rights.

Since Bush himself accepting the blame, what would it take for you to recignize that ???

Is it possible that you do so, or no circumstances can change your mind ?

[Paul Waters]

Originally Posted by TDF

not suprising our country wasnt prepared for any type of emergency plan for any type of emergency..FEMA is useless

He wants to put this behind him.

Time to focus on terrorism, again.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Since Bush himself accepting the blame, what would it take for you to recignize that ???

Is it possible that you do so, or no circumstances can change your mind ?

Of course the Federal government should take part of the blame, but the way the system works in the US, it is up to the local and state governments to be responsible for pre-storm evacuation, and first response. The fact that the local and state authorities are screaming that it's all about Bush and nothing about themselves is pathetic and dispicable.

They are playing on peoples ignorance of how the US government is set up, and how things work

[crowkid]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Since Bush himself accepting the blame, what would it take for you to recignize that ???

Is it possible that you do so, or no circumstances can change your mind ?

Your blind hatred of Bush always amuses some of us on this board, as myself...But don't worry, this board IS your base, thank God(am I allowed to say that word in here?) the majority of the population in my country doesn't subscribe to your hippie-anti-everything views!

And Fiesta, I've been through a Category 4 hurricane, Hurricane Hugo split my house in half like a fucking Ginsu knife back in '89. It is ALWAYS the Governor's responsibility to declare state of emergencies and also issue the National Guard, and it is also the Mayor's duty to evacuate the cities and plan the appropriate transportations for those less fortunate. The governor refused Bush's plea to get everyone out of the area BEFORE the hurricane, and the Mayor left the buses to sit in the parking lots in floodwaters, meanwhile the people who were directed to the Superdome were left with no water no food, all thanks to 2 incompetent politicians who happen to be Democrats.

Was the government's response to blame? Well of course, if Bush admits it, you know something is fucked.. But your blind hatred for Republicans and President Bush makes you ignore the plain and simple facts; Louisiana's state officials and politicians have been corrupt and irresponsible since the beginning of their history, just do some research on where its previous governors are now living! (BTW, I know what I speak of, I lived in Hammond, Louisiana, everyone that has lived in that state for awhile is well aware of the corruption)

So to review, here is the order of blame:

1)Governor Blanco for so many fuckups beyond belief
2)Mayor Nagin for pointing the blame back to the Governor and the FEDS after the demise of New Orleans
and 3)Bush and the FEDS, for not realizing how incompetent its subordinates actually are in New Orleans, as well as the government's FEMA!


Or you could just ignore the facts, let the incompetent and corrupt leaders of Louisiana off completely, and blame it all on Bush! It's easier to do that isn't it children?


Hey look! I slipped on a banana peel, it's that goddamn Bush!!! He's so stupid!
waaaah




BLAH!

[spanky part 2]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I live in Miami. I've been through Hurricanes.

Plenty of them.

The Feds NEVER show up for days and days. EVERYTHING happens on the local level. The city and state take care of things, not the Feds.

The Governors from AL and MS were not on TV screaming that it was all the Feds fault and that bush hates blacks. They were getting on with doing what the state is supposed to do.

The only drivel is from people that didn't even pay enough attention in school to know how their own government works. Read the constitution some time. I would recomend starting with the 10th amendment, then do some searchs on states rights.

Why does it not surprise me that you live in Miami. Probably Overtown.

You don't actually live in the US. It's the northern part of south america.
Your opinions don't count. I know I lived in sobe for 5 years.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

Why does it not surprise me that you live in Miami. Probably Overtown.

You don't actually live in the US. It's the northern part of south america.
Your opinions don't count. I know I lived in sobe for 5 years.

LMAO!
Ladies and Gentlemen. I give you.... the tolerant left! (Ta Dah!)

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by crowkid

Your blind hatred of Bush ...!

I ask the fucking guy ( spermbanzai ) if anything could change his mind ... The answer was obviously NO...

I hope you both live happily forever and have many GOP's

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I ask the fucking guy ( spermbanzai ) if anything could change his mind ... The answer was obviously NO...

I hope you both live happily forever and have many GOP's

You don't know me very well. There are plenty of things that I think Bush is screwing up. Controlling the borders, too much infringement on states rights, too much federal spending, etc...

I'm not blindly for or aganst any side politically.

Why don't you address my posts regarding the laws and how things work in the US government, instead of just insulting me?

[The Dawg]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

Why does it not surprise me that you live in Miami. Probably Overtown.

You don't actually live in the US. It's the northern part of south america.
Your opinions don't count. I know I lived in sobe for 5 years.

If you lived on South Beach for 5 years then I guess you never went through overtown... Its not a spanish neighborhood.

[spanky part 2]

Originally Posted by The Dawg

If you lived on South Beach for 5 years then I guess you never went through overtown... Its not a spanish neighborhood.

I was speaking about the whole city in general. Talk about corrupt.

That city is the most corrupt in the nation

[nico-t]

the proof bush really is the worst president ever